tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 there is another s/w just on its heels over western tx right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 va doesn't even get precip on this run, its just gets sheared to pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 va doesn't even get precip on this run, its just gets sheared to pieces. how much preciep do we get from the retro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 how much preciep do we get from the retro? less than a .1 ....its very lgt precip, prob more of just snow showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Lightning Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Blocking highs kill moisture transport in the Delmarva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 less than a .1 ....its very lgt precip, prob more of just snow showers. Well i guess you can say that has been the them....for this stuff to get torn and we end up cold and dry......shall see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 how much preciep do we get from the retro? I thought as much looking at the 120hr forecast. The problem remains that the initial upper support is so far north and the vortex that holds in the cold air is so far south and west that there is no room for the shortwave, all it can do it shear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Another reason why there is a lack of interest, the euro doesn't show much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Another reason why there is a lack of interest, the euro doesn't show much. The 0z run was pretty amplified, the model is inconsistent as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I thought as much looking at the 120hr forecast. The problem remains that the initial upper support is so far north and the vortex that holds in the cold air is so far south and west that there is no room for the shortwave, all it can do it shear. Right when he said it i thought of what you said in the morning over at the mid atlantic forum, about the pattern . Looks pretty spot on from this run.......cold/dry shear out....then cutter....ughhhh lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Another reason why there is a lack of interest, the euro doesn't show much. The euro has preciep for us on the 00z run...just stop man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 The 0z run was pretty amplified, the model is inconsistent as usual. yea, if someone has the 0z hr 144 map and compare it to the hr120 map at h5, you can see the retro is further south and the hgts are just crushed south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I'm personally not enthused about this pattern. We have the great blocking, but with the horrible Pacific pattern, there is not much room for shortwaves to amplify...by the time they do, they get sheared out. With a better Pacific pattern, you could get the shortwaves to amplify much earlier... Also, by the time the blocking would weaken, we still have the horrible Pacific pattern, so even though there is now more room for amplification, there is very little left to stop it from becoming a cutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 the tx energy on the back side of the hr 144 is trying to come up the coast at hr 186 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 yea, if someone has the 0z hr 144 map and compare it to the hr120 map at h5, you can see the retro is further south and the hgts are just crushed south. Yep....like wes has said. We dont want preciep from that retro....keep it north or this does not have a chance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 hr 192 sub 996 low off hse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 hr 198 sub 988 100-150 miles east of the mouth of the chesapeake...lgt to mod precip delmarva up to phl to nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 continues to look like the worst situation possible...retro low backs far enough southwest to completely wipe out any shot of the next storm leaving us cold with occasional flurries and nothing more. it's brutal that we are wasting this, in what was probably our best chance to get something worth while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 lol, the euro annihilates us at 204 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 hr 204 sub 980 100 miles east of toms river...hvy snow phl to nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 lol, the euro annihilates us at 204 hours. day 10 threat...meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 If this is near the time frame of the 19th to the 21st this was ALWAYS the next best threat period in my personal opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 lol, the euro annihilates us at 204 hours. lol... was going to post this, nice Miller A coastal, completely crushes the tri-state area. Hr 210 is just funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 lol this ala feb 25-26 storm comes inland at western long island phl to nyc mod to hvy snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 hr 24 sub 980 100 miles east of toms river...hvy snow phl to nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanBrandon Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Do some people have nothing better to do than just be obnoxious here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Another reason why there is a lack of interest, the euro doesn't show much. does it?..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 hr 216 has a sub 984 in upstate ny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 does it?..lol it doesn't till day 9-10...and we all know how that works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Share Posted December 11, 2010 what makes this possible, is there is a vortex or cutoff at h5 sitting over the lakes at hr 174...this pumps the ridge along the east coast negatively tilted and allows the storm to flow right around it right into long island... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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