ORH_wxman Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yeah the white/blue border should run on a line from just east of ORH to Townsend to just east of Nashua. The gradient was certainly sharp east of there from the 11-12" in Nashua to 5" for Ray. How did towns like Salem and north of there get in NE mass but right on the coast do? ...ESSEX COUNTY... METHUEN 5.0 730 AM 10/30 AMESBURY 5.0 1157 AM 10/30 HAM RADIO TOPSFIELD 4.0 759 AM 10/30 GEORGETOWN 3.0 1110 AM 10/30 HAM RADIO MARBLEHEAD 1.0 730 AM 10/30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Yeah the white/blue border should run on a line from just east of ORH to Townsend to just east of Nashua. The gradient was certainly sharp east of there from the 11-12" in Nashua to 5" for Ray. How did towns like Salem and north of there get in NE mass but right on the coast do? They can put the 10" line a bit east of Townsend as Pepperell and other towns a bit east did well, but not much further east...here were the highest totals in Middlesex county ...MIDDLESEX COUNTY... TOWNSEND 18.0 1029 AM 10/30 HAM RADIO PEPPERELL 15.0 420 PM 10/30 GROTON 11.8 833 AM 10/30 SHIRLEY 10.0 900 AM 10/30 TYNGSBORO 9.8 145 PM 10/30 GENERAL PUBLIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 ok, the nesis map is wrong on many levels, which can be expected, they aren't perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Here's my map if I had to do it for the BOS are and out west a bit...i cannot speak for areas outside my knowledge....but I would draw the lines like this: Dark blue line in ORH county and W MA would be 20"+....the red line is the 10" line (where nesis really blew it), the regular blue line is the 4" line and the magenta (pink-purple) line is the 1" line...that is how I would draw it. The 1" line in SE MA might not be perfect since I also have a bit of limited knowledge on the totals there, but I used known totals and a bit of local knowledge on topography and typical snow gradient compared to the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Here's my map if I had to do it for the BOS are and out west a bit...i cannot speak for areas outside my knowledge....but I would draw the lines like this: Dark blue line in ORH county and W MA would be 20"+....the red line is the 10" line (where nesis really blew it), the regular blue line is the 4" line and the magenta (pink-purple) line is the 1" line...that is how I would draw it. The 1" line in SE MA might not be perfect since I also have a bit of limited knowledge on the totals there, but I used known totals and a bit of local knowledge on topography and typical snow gradient compared to the coast. A friend of mine in Glens Falls who is a met said they hardly had a dusting. The NW part of the map looks a bit over done as well. I remember years ago when the blizzard of 96 map came out and they had me over 20 inches in Bristol Ct when we only got about 16 I was all bent out of shape. As I get older I have to pick my battles more carefully lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 I can't help but think Ryan asked to be assigned to this CL&P conference and he's sitting there "grr"-ing at Butler while he's talking right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 oh he is going to town on him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 oh he is going to town on him now My girlfriend and I were laughing pretty hard lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 LOL wish I could hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 What is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 The daily 6pm presser with CLP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 LOL wish I could hear. What is going on? Just an absolute smoking of Butler. Asking tough questions and Butler just lowered his eyes and looked down shaking his head in a "yes" motion. He called him out pretty hard for saying WeHa would have 1k out by yesterday when they have 11k out currently. Butler just reverted to saying "we have to review what happened". Then (Butler) said something about "we're still finding out how much damage there is" and Ryan just raised his voice and said "YOU'RE STILL FINDING OUT OVER A WEEK LATER?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Just an absolute smoking of Butler. Asking tough questions and Butler just lowered his eyes and looked down shaking his head in a "yes" motion. He called him out pretty hard for saying WeHa would have 1k out by yesterday when they have 11k out currently. Butler just reverted to saying "we have to review what happened". Then (Butler) said something about "we're still finding out how much damage there is" and Ryan just raised his voice and said "YOU'RE STILL FINDING OUT OVER A WEEK LATER?!" I'm sure the bullsh*t that he's been dealing with...showering at random gyms and what not is just getting to him..as it should. This is beyond ridiculous..it's asinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Just an absolute smoking of Butler. Asking tough questions and Butler just lowered his eyes and looked down shaking his head in a "yes" motion. He called him out pretty hard for saying WeHa would have 1k out by yesterday when they have 11k out currently. Butler just reverted to saying "we have to review what happened". Then (Butler) said something about "we're still finding out how much damage there is" and Ryan just raised his voice and said "YOU'RE STILL FINDING OUT OVER A WEEK LATER?!" Is Ryan a meteorologist or a journalist? It seems like he's trying to get revenge of what CL&P said to him in facebook yesterday. Kinda unprofessional IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Is Ryan a meteorologist or a journalist? It seems like he's trying to get revenge of what CL&P said to him in facebook yesterday. Kinda unprofessional IMO. He does both for his station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 He does both for his station. Ohhh I didn't know that. Makes sense then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Is Ryan a meteorologist or a journalist? It seems like he's trying to get revenge of what CL&P said to him in facebook yesterday. Kinda unprofessional IMO. Are you ****ing ****ting me? These ***holes have been jerking around the public since Irene, Ryan is a media reporter, they need to bring to light the idiocy that is at the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Ohhh I didn't know that. Makes sense then. Sorry... Didn't mean to go off like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Are you ****ing ****ting me? These ***holes have been jerking around the public since Irene, Ryan is a media reporter, they need to bring to light the idiocy that is at the top I didn't know he was a journalist too. If he was just a met, then I would think it was kinda weird, but if hes a journalist then its fair game. Its no different than felger ripping john henry to his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I didn't know he was a journalist too. My apologies. This Butler guy sound like a jerk I am in no way slamming the linesmen and support folks. The top brass screwed up here. Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'm sure the bullsh*t that he's been dealing with...showering at random gyms and what not is just getting to him..as it should. This is beyond ridiculous..it's asinine. Agreed 100%. Still, he's keeping it very professional. It's not like he's yelling or anything..just asking tough questions. Is Ryan a meteorologist or a journalist? It seems like he's trying to get revenge of what CL&P said to him in facebook yesterday. Kinda unprofessional IMO. Very professionally done. Are you ****ing ****ting me? These ***holes have been jerking around the public since Irene, Ryan is a media reporter, they need to bring to light the idiocy that is at the top Agreed. The look on Butler's face was priceless.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I wonder what the answer to the problem will be. I think its kind of unreasonable to increase the amount of lineworkers that a company has only to lessen the restoration time of a major storm that probably only occurs once every 5 or 10 years. They'll come up with a solution to the problem I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 I wonder what the answer to the problem will be. I think its kind of unreasonable to increase the amount of lineworkers that a company has only to lessen the restoration time of a major storm that probably only occurs once every 5 or 10 years. They'll come up with a solution to the problem I'm sure. Dude. They should have called in EVERY possible external source for additional linemen Thursday when there was mention of a "historic, devastating" snowstorm. Even if the chance was only 50% at that point, there is no excuse. It's not only on them though. Malloy should have activated the guard Friday at the latest and been in nearly 24 hour contact with CL&P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Dude. They should have called in EVERY possible external source for additional linemen Thursday when there was mention of a "historic, devastating" snowstorm. Even if the chance was only 50% at that point, there is no excuse. It's not only on them though. Malloy should have activated the guard Friday at the latest and been in nearly 24 hour contact with CL&P. Ok that works if its just CT that has an outage. If another cane hits and If multiple states are out like NJ, PENN, NY, MA, VT, NH, RI, and ME then what? All of those states are going to be requesting crews. There has to be another solution other than getting crews here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Ok that works if its just CT that has an outage. If another cane hits and If multiple states are out like NJ, PENN, NY, MA, VT, NH, RI, and ME then what? All of those states are going to be requesting crews. There has to be another solution other than getting crews here. Cutting back trees. Seems to work around here. But if a majot cane does hit (and it will someday) we will be fooked. Ryan, Ginx have posted dozens of times on this. National Grid did a decent job getting people back up, as did PSNH Putting stuff underground sounds good, but not perfect, and $$$$$. Would people balk at doubling rates for 10 years to pay for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Cutting back trees. Seems to work around here. But if a majot cane does hit (and it will someday) we will be fooked. Ryan, Ginx have posted dozens of times on this. National Grid did a decent job getting people back up, as did PSNH Putting stuff underground sounds good, but not perfect, and $$. Would people balk at doubling rates for 10 years to pay for that? I suggested last night on here of starting with putting the service wires underground. That way all service calls would be gone and once a section of a circuit is back everyone in that section has power. All of these onesy twosey type jobs are eliminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Hey Guys - I'm Driving on 143 West from Route 9 (Chesterfield), STILL Tons of Snow!!!! Coming back from a NYC gig. Nice Cory !! Glad you made your trip through GC!! Please tell Kevin that indeed there is snow in GC. He thinks it's all gone....like his.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Dude. They should have called in EVERY possible external source for additional linemen Thursday when there was mention of a "historic, devastating" snowstorm. Even if the chance was only 50% at that point, there is no excuse. It's not only on them though. Malloy should have activated the guard Friday at the latest and been in nearly 24 hour contact with CL&P. Exacly, Malloy has failed imo as well. Just because he is here doesn't mean he is worth a sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Cutting back trees. Seems to work around here. But if a majot cane does hit (and it will someday) we will be fooked. Ryan, Ginx have posted dozens of times on this. National Grid did a decent job getting people back up, as did PSNH Putting stuff underground sounds good, but not perfect, and $$$. Would people balk at doubling rates for 10 years to pay for that? Its not just on CL&P either... Its up to the PUC to make changes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I suggested last night on here of starting with putting the service wires underground. That way all service calls would be gone and once a section of a circuit is back everyone in that section has power. All of these onesy twosey type jobs are eliminated. What are service wires? From the street to the house? Half of my neighborhood has underground wires. Not my half, lol. The contractor got cheap as he went along. This is from Public Service of Wisconsin http://psc.wi.gov/thelibrary/publications/electric/electric11.pdf The estimated cost for constructing underground transmission lines ranges from 4 to 14 times more expensive than overhead lines of the same voltage and same distance. A typical new 69 kV overhead single-circuit transmission line costs approximately $285,000 per mile as opposed to $1.5 million per mile for a new 69 kV underground line (without the terminals). A new 138 kV overhead line costs approximately $390,000 per mile as opposed to $2 million per mile for underground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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