dryslot Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Yeah, we only have one up here on the second floor. Good point about the boiler. I will buy another (2?) This week. Do I need one in the basement? Thats where the 1st one should be is in the basement with the furnace/boiler, You want it near the source, I have 2 one battery 1 electric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The data was def showing 2 foot possibility, but it was hard to actually believe that might happen. I thought 18"+ would happen in spots...but that was a big area that broke 20". I knew it might happen when it was just after lunch time and ORH was 36/25 or some crap and AFN was similar. There was going to be very little wasting of the qpf. Did the 500mb low ever close off at any point during the storm? I know some models showed this potentially happening but a bit north of our region. Did 700/850/925 close off quicker than models depicted or was it accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The NAM weenie sim radar highlighted the band well. Actually, the old ETA on the PSU ewall had this band nailed too fwiw. I remember looking at that as well...that was pretty epic. You would think that was a tropical storm or hurricane, not a winter storm. Those dbz were out of this world for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The data was def showing 2 foot possibility, but it was hard to actually believe that might happen. I thought 18"+ would happen in spots...but that was a big area that broke 20". I knew it might happen when it was just after lunch time and ORH was 36/25 or some crap and AFN was similar. There was going to be very little wasting of the qpf. Snow was sticking here imediately after starting. Came on full tilt, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The data was def showing 2 foot possibility, but it was hard to actually believe that might happen. I thought 18"+ would happen in spots...but that was a big area that broke 20". I knew it might happen when it was just after lunch time and ORH was 36/25 or some crap and AFN was similar. There was going to be very little wasting of the qpf. I figured someone in GC or up by Socks had a chance for 20 or so, but to have such a wide 20"+ area in October is just incredible. But yeah when you and Pete went right to snow and those bands set up...I knew someone was going to get crushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Thats where the 1st one should be is in the basement with the furnace/boiler, You want it near the source, I have 2 one battery 1 electric Makes sense. Plus CO is more dense than air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Still dark se forest park spfd mass I did not get to measure until 3pm Sunday afternoon. I went to an open area and measured over 9 inches in the street ( untouched by vehicles or pedestrians) and measured nearly a foot on the grassy surface. I figure that there was probably at least two inches more total on the ground when the snow stopped twelve hours prior. I will go with 13 inches official and that would not allow for any compaction during the event. I guess up to fifteen would be reasonable. I do know that it did snow very heavy the last couple hrs and looking out the window there was very little visability. The damage is amazing! So many times in marginal rain/snow set ups, where I am at the valley floor there is often a rain/snow mix or up to three inches of slop while elevations just a few hundred feet higher get smoked. It was just amazing to me that we accumulated this much snow, esp in October!! It is often tough to get a foot of drier snow here in the spfd area during the most "desirable" sne snow events. This area is frequently down sloped or for whatever reason is between to big bands of snow and so on. Having grown up in Bristol Ct I have now come to realize that Bristol generally does much better than we do here in spfd in many different synoptic set ups. It just generally does not snow that much here in the lower PV generally speaking. The day started overcast and it smelt and looked like snow. The led grey overcast led to a rain/snow mix for under an hour that quickly flipped to heavy wet snow. I would have loved to have this much qpf with temps about eight or ten degrees colder and all the mid level features being equal. BDL is on crack again with their 20.3 lol Had it not been so dangerous to have been outside during the storm I would have gotten to enjoy it a lot more. Anyway good start to the season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I figured someone in GC or up by Socks had a chance for 20 or so, but to have such a wide 20"+ area in October is just incredible. But yeah when you and Pete went right to snow and those bands set up...I knew someone was going to get crushed. When those places in S CT were ripping and sticking to the roads, I knew it would be epic. The guy posting from Shelton at 500 feet with snow sticking to everything. Even Joe with the snow sticking to his palm trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We have been extremely lucky in the last 16 years or so. I would have killed for a storm to deliver 10" when I was a kid. Now 12" storms are like a dime a dozen..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 When those places in S CT were ripping and sticking to the roads, I knew it would be epic. The guy posting from Shelton at 500 feet with snow sticking to everything. Even Joe with the snow sticking to his palm trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Glad you are ok Codfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 When those places in S CT were ripping and sticking to the roads, I knew it would be epic. The guy posting from Shelton at 500 feet with snow sticking to everything. Even Joe with the snow sticking to his palm trees. NYC flashing over to S+ at like 9am was a tip off too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Still dark se forest park spfd mass I did not get to measure until 3pm Sunday afternoon. I went to an open area and measured over 9 inches in the street ( untouched by vehicles or pedestrians) and measured nearly a foot on the grassy surface. I figure that there was probably at least two inches more total on the ground when the snow stopped twelve hours prior. I will go with 13 inches official and that would not allow for any compaction during the event. I guess up to fifteen would be reasonable. We have a poster in CEF who said they got 15 inches, so you could probably go a shade higher than 13" there. I think it was that "scoob" guy who said they got about 15". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Still dark se forest park spfd mass I did not get to measure until 3pm Sunday afternoon. I went to an open area and measured over 9 inches in the street ( untouched by vehicles or pedestrians) and measured nearly a foot on the grassy surface. I figure that there was probably at least two inches more total on the ground when the snow stopped twelve hours prior. I will go with 13 inches official and that would not allow for any compaction during the event. I guess up to fifteen would be reasonable. I do know that it did snow very heavy the last couple hrs and looking out the window there was very little visability. The damage is amazing! So many times in marginal rain/snow set ups, where I am at the valley floor there is often a rain/snow mix or up to three inches of slop while elevations just a few hundred feet higher get smoked. It was just amazing to me that we accumulated this much snow, esp in October!! It is often tough to get a foot of drier snow here in the spfd area during the most "desirable" sne snow events. This area is frequently down sloped or for whatever reason is between to big bands of snow and so on. Having grown up in Bristol Ct I have now come to realize that Bristol generally does much better than we do here in spfd in many different synoptic set ups. It just generally does not snow that much here in the lower PV generally speaking. The day started overcast and it smelt and looked like snow. The led grey overcast led to a rain/snow mix for under an hour that quickly flipped to heavy wet snow. I would have loved to have this much qpf with temps about eight or ten degrees colder and all the mid level features being equal. BDL is on crack again with their 20.3 lol Had it not been so dangerous to have been outside during the storm I would have gotten to enjoy it a lot more. Anyway good start to the season.. Great report, got a genny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We have been extremely lucky in the last 16 years or so. I would have killed for a storm to deliver 10" when I was a kid. Now 12" storms are like a dime a dozen..lol. I think BOS went like 10 years without a 10" snowstorm from like 1983 to 1993, lol. Since then, they have had a ridiculous number. Just the last 4 winters starting with '07-'08, I think they have had 8 10"+ events. That's not even going back to the early decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I love when Pete and Rick jackpot and I get rain. As long as Rick can bury his fields in snow..I'm happy. We do too. Lol at Ryan's quote...he's right though. How can they say it wasn't forecasted well? The snow came in during the early afternoon exactly like most of us thought it would (a little sooner to the south). The amounts were maybe just a shade higher than predicted down in CT, but it didn't change the impact much...devastation was goin gto happen even with 5" of wet snow. Nevermind 10"...probably 80% of the damage is already done by the time you hit 5" of wet snow on foliage. I will say that I thought a lot of the forecasts on TV were very conservative until about 12-24 hours out...Ryan wasn't on his station, but in Boston they seemed to be. Most of the mets here on americanwx were going balls to the wall by 36 hours out. Did some spokessuit say that? I asked Scott what time it would start here and he said 1-2pm. I was putting on storm windows and around 1:30 there were a few renegade flakes and then a wall of white moved in hot on their heels. I was expecting a good dose but I quickly realized we had a special event going down. What a crush job.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 This setup screamed go big interior, could not see what could go wrong interior other than D'S , slamming -6 SD east 850s into a CP cold airmass, lock that up from here to eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 This setup screamed go big interior, could not see what could go wrong interior other than D'S , slamming -6 SD east 850s into a CP cold airmass, lock that up from here to eternity. Those 800-600mb frontogenesis maps you posted were complete porn. That massive area of black, the highest color on the scale was was filthy sick. All of CT and much of MA and S. NH was just covered up...looked like the BP Oil spill occurred over this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Did some spokessuit say that? I asked Scott what time it would start here and he said 1-2pm. I was putting on storm windows and around 1:30 there were a few renegade flakes and then a wall of white moved in hot on their heels. I was expecting a good dose but I quickly realized we had a special event going down. What a crush job.lol Yeah the CL&P people said it was forecasted poorly. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 We do too. Did some spokessuit say that? I asked Scott what time it would start here and he said 1-2pm. I was putting on storm windows and around 1:30 there were a few renegade flakes and then a wall of white moved in hot on their heels. I was expecting a good dose but I quickly realized we had a special event going down. What a crush job.lol You ignored my 20 for you, serves you right LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Yeah the CL&P people said it was forecasted poorly. Lol. Morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Those 800-600mb frontogenesis maps you posted were complete porn. That massive area of black, the highest color on the scale was was filthy sick. All of CT and much of MA and S. NH was just covered up...looked like the BP Oil spill occurred over this area. Sick porn maps on every source. That's why I gagged my coffee up when OKX AFD was so lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I think BOS went like 10 years without a 10" snowstorm from like 1983 to 1993, lol. Since then, they have had a ridiculous number. Just the last 4 winters starting with '07-'08, I think they have had 8 10"+ events. That's not even going back to the early decade. My God, that's brutal. I lucked out a few times to the south of the city in a few Cape specials, but overall...it sucked. I grew tired of parents saying we don't have winters like we used to...etc. When 3-6" appeared on the maps, I did cartwheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I remember so well those almost snowless winters growing up as a kid in central ct. I remember when five or six inches was a "big storm". Occasionally there would be a big storm in worcestor or boston or in the nw hills but overall from the mid 80s to early 90s it was dull. It was not until the winter of 92-93 that we had our first above normal seasonal snow fall in Bristol Ct in ten years. Ten years is a long time as kid who loves snow to go with below average to average winters. Furthermore this storm was exceptionally well forecasted. I agree to that most of the damage was done within the first three or four inches of paste anyways. Everyone was calling for at least that in the valleys so shame on all the big people who did not react correctly. Well here is to another great winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Yeah the CL&P people said it was forecasted poorly. Lol. Even his apology was lame as he said well the snow was deeper than anyone forecasted, idiots never heard of the 4 inch Penn disaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 My God, that's brutal. I lucked out a few times to the south of the city in a few Cape specials, but overall...it sucked. I grew tired of parents saying we don't have winters like we used to...etc. When 3-6" appeared on the maps, I did cartwheels. Yeah i think the 8 are 12/13/07, 12/19/08, 12/19/09, 1/3/10, 12/26/10, 1/12/11, 1/27/11, 2/1/11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Not for nothing I bet Ryan hears shi it for his blog from Corporate, it's just the way it is. I know first hand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Not for nothing I bet Ryan hears shi it for his blog from Corporate, it's just the way it is. I know first hand.... They are the one's that made moron comments, not Ryan. He shouldn't receive any crap. He comes out looking good for forecasting balls to the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Sick porn maps on every source. That's why I gagged my coffee up when OKX AFD was so lame. That is disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 They are the one's that made moron comments, not Ryan. He shouldn't receive any crap. He comes out looking good for forecasting balls to the wall. I certainly hope so but they do saturate NBC with commercials. NBC has run Bob Maxsons epic forecast about 100 times today as if to rub it in LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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