weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Lol at Ryan's quote...he's right though. How can they say it wasn't forecasted well? The snow came in during the early afternoon exactly like most of us thought it would (a little sooner to the south). The amounts were maybe just a shade higher than predicted down in CT, but it didn't change the impact much...devastation was goin gto happen even with 5" of wet snow. Nevermind 10"...probably 80% of the damage is already done by the time you hit 5" of wet snow on foliage. I will say that I thought a lot of the forecasts on TV were very conservative until about 12-24 hours out...Ryan wasn't on his station, but in Boston they seemed to be. Most of the mets here on americanwx were going balls to the wall by 36 hours out. WTF...tell me this is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Lol at Ryan's quote...he's right though. How can they say it wasn't forecasted well? The snow came in during the early afternoon exactly like most of us thought it would (a little sooner to the south). The amounts were maybe just a shade higher than predicted down in CT, but it didn't change the impact much...devastation was goin gto happen even with 5" of wet snow. Nevermind 10"...probably 80% of the damage is already done by the time you hit 5" of wet snow on foliage. I will say that I thought a lot of the forecasts on TV were very conservative until about 12-24 hours out...Ryan wasn't on his station, but in Boston they seemed to be. Most of the mets here on americanwx were going balls to the wall by 36 hours out. And it's not like you can use the excuse.."well we can do that because it was an internet forum..." By 36 hrs out, I think we knew many in the interior were in for something they have never seen before. This wasn't exactly a hair pulling forecast for those areas. Like you said...maybe there were questions as to who would get 10" and who would get 18"+, but it was pretty clear that a very damaging storm was about to happen for the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 And it's not like you can use the excuse.."well we can do that because it was an internet forum..." By 36 hrs out, I think we knew many in the interior were in for something they have never seen before. This wasn't exactly a hair pulling forecast for those areas. Like you said...maybe there were questions as to who would get 10" and who would get 18"+, but it was pretty clear that a very damaging storm was about to happen for the interior. Actually the night before they were still really conservative. I just found this post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Starting with the ice storm in Dec 2008, then Feb 2010 wind storm in S NH, Irene, and now Snow-ctober...I can't recall a 3 year period where we had so many instances of mass power outages in recent times. Its been crazy. The trees might give up soon, lol. They've taken a beating the last 3 years. W. Ma. also had the tornado this past summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Actually the night before they were still really conservative. I just found this post http://www.americanw...ost__p__1075008 That snowfall map Matt N had went down in flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 These CO deaths are awful. What a preventable trajedy. It really is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 That snowfall map Matt N had went down in flames. I was surprised he went as conservative as he did. He's usually all over dynamic systems like this one was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 These CO deaths are awful. What a preventable trajedy. It really is sad. Yeah it's really sad to hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I sent out dire emails Thursday night warning staff to be prepared for a week with no power as we have lots who live well inland toward Manchester. All of this based on what I read here and surmised. Friday afternoon I was begging our EMs to get on the ball, the state was slow too. First coordinations did not happen until fri afternoon then everyone went home for the weekend. I still think the entire state of denial as shown by the OKX met lead, even common folk to just say MEH, snow big deal. They forgot about the trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I sent out dire emails Thursday night warning staff to be prepared for a week with no power as we have lots who live well inland toward Manchester. All of this based on what I read here and surmised. Friday afternoon I was begging our EMs to get on the ball, the state was slow too. First coordinations did not happen until fri afternoon then everyone went home for the weekend. I still think the entire state of denial as shown by the OKX met lead, even common folk to just say MEH, snow big deal. They forgot about the trees. What a complete and utter disgrace. People should seriously be fired over this. These people are in positions in where they are supposed to be prepared and ready for situations like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I was surprised he went as conservative as he did. He's usually all over dynamic systems like this one was. Jeff Fox was awful too, although Joe Furey saved his butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Jeff Fox was awful too, although Joe Furey saved his butt. What was Geoff Fox saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Jeff Fox was awful too, although Joe Furey saved his butt. The disconnect by all the mets in here and the TV forecasts was pretty huge. NWS BOX was more toward our totals...they did good. I'm sure Ryan ended up looking good as one of the first TV mets to hammer this storm. If you read the posts in here, you knew it was coming, if you watched most TV stations, it seemed kind of "meh". I mean even 3" of wet snow is not "meh", but certainly compared to 6"+ of wet snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 These CO deaths are awful. What a preventable trajedy. It really is sad. The people admitted to Hartford Hospital was at 187 for CO issues. Not good, everyone should have two sensors in their house, even boilers fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 If you want your laptops to rise again, go back and read through a few of those locked threads. La epic.... great job by the mets and many others on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 What was Geoff Fox saying? I only saw him Fri I think, it was at work when I was telling folks about 6-12 he said 2-4 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 If you want your laptops to rise again, go back and read through a few of those locked threads. La epic.... great job by the mets and many others on here My concern for someone to snow bomb their way to 18" was too conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I only saw him Fri I think, it was at work when I was telling folks about 6-12 he said 2-4 . LOL. I was talking to my boss on Friday b/c I went into work, I told him that this would be the biggest October snowstorm in history and he didn't believe me...I told him the record at BDL was 1.7'' and he said he didn't believe that lol. I told him I was thinking 8-12'' for us and he said he didn't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Hey it could be worse. You could be a lineman for India power and light..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The people admitted to Hartford Hospital was at 187 for CO issues. Not good, everyone should have two sensors in their house, even boilers fail. Yeah, we only have one up here on the second floor. Good point about the boiler. I will buy another (2?) This week. Do I need one in the basement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 My concern for someone to snow bomb their way to 18" was too conservative. Lol. Ryan was weenie king...that never happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 My concern for someone to snow bomb their way to 18" was too conservative. Who the hell would have thought 31"..lol. I remember thinking weenie icons were gonna get thrown our way for mentioning anything over 15", but the data was there. As it turns out, quite a large swath got 2'+! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Watching Fox now' they just covered Geoffs butt. I know what he really said, they sound bit out of context. Media! Wish I had video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Yeah, we only have one up here on the second floor. Good point about the boiler. I will buy another (2?) This week. Do I need one in the basement? Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 ya knowing this was a relatively quick hitter it is all the more amazing that GC had 2 feet in 10-12 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Who the hell would have thought 31"..lol. I remember thinking weenie icons were gonna get thrown are way for mentioning anything over 15", but the data was there. As it turns out, quite a large swath got 2'+! I remember when I got up to my friends in NH around 11:30 AM I looked at the 12z NAM...think I even got to see the 12z GFS so it must have been closer to 12:30 actually, anyways, when I saw the models still had a large swatch of 1.75'' to 2'' I thought about mentioning on facebook before I left there could certainly be 18-24'' in many spots but didn't want to sound like a weenie lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Watching Fox now' they just covered Geoffs butt. I know what he really said, they sound bit out of context. Media! Wish I had video maybe he has something posted on his google+ account...like maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Who the hell would have thought 31"..lol. I remember thinking weenie icons were gonna get thrown are way for mentioning anything over 15", but the data was there. As it turns out, quite a large swath got 2'+! The data was def showing 2 foot possibility, but it was hard to actually believe that might happen. I thought 18"+ would happen in spots...but that was a big area that broke 20". I knew it might happen when it was just after lunch time and ORH was 36/25 or some crap and AFN was similar. There was going to be very little wasting of the qpf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I remember when I got up to my friends in NH around 11:30 AM I looked at the 12z NAM...think I even got to see the 12z GFS so it must have been closer to 12:30 actually, anyways, when I saw the models still had a large swatch of 1.75'' to 2'' I thought about mentioning on facebook before I left there could certainly be 18-24'' in many spots but didn't want to sound like a weenie lol. The NAM weenie sim radar highlighted the band well. Actually, the old ETA on the PSU ewall had this band nailed too fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Who the hell would have thought 31"..lol. I remember thinking weenie icons were gonna get thrown our way for mentioning anything over 15", but the data was there. As it turns out, quite a large swath got 2'+! Ekster commenting on Phil hitting his head on yhe troposphere lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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