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October 29/30 Snowstorm OBS thread


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That uberband over W Mass/NY that kept coming was awesome to watch

>>>MRG<<<"And better to be in">>>MRG<<<

You can see how on that loop how N ORH county where you are managed to avoid the dryslot...even if you didn't get quite the banding that GC did...I mostly avoided it here too, narrowly.

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You can see how on that loop how N ORH county where you are managed to avoid the dryslot...even if you didn't get quite the banding that GC did...I mostly avoided it here too, narrowly.

When the DS was approaching, I did notice a difference in the snowflakes and rates... then it picked up again for that final 2 hour or so burst

Awesome event. I don't recall too many storms that had rates like that for many hours. Dec '92, April '97, maybe a few more... March 2001?

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He is from Columbia County, NY and they got crushed good so maybe that's why he recalls it more....

My area where I live now got well over a foot. I didn't live there yet for many years, but I drove around Knox that day to check it out.

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Were you living further west? That one didn't hit the east slope that much..but crushed the Taconics. It had a very sharp gradient where the snow was and wasn't because of the mid-level temps.

Chesterfield had 2.0", Cummington hill had 4" and Plainfield 3"...but then west in places like Lanesboro and Great Barrington had double digit totals.

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Were you living further west? That one didn't hit the east slope that much..but crushed the Taconics. It had a very sharp gradient where the snow was and wasn't because of the mid-level temps.

Chesterfield had 2.0", Cummington hill had 4" and Plainfield 3"...but then west in places like Lanesboro and Great Barrington had double digit totals.

I was living in Canaan,NY, it's on the MA/NY border. I was going to Simon's Rock (Great Barrington) at the time. It was a blue bomb. A day or two later it was warm, like 70 degree warm if I remember correctly.

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You can see how on that loop how N ORH county where you are managed to avoid the dryslot...even if you didn't get quite the banding that GC did...I mostly avoided it here too, narrowly.

We never got over 1"/hour rates here until the final few hours...2-4am when I was asleep. When I went to bed just before 2am there was about 5.5 and when I measured at 9am there was an additional 3.1 that mostly fell in those two hours....could have been 4+ but there was compaction.

Throughout the storm it was mostly .5-.6/hour. From about 5pm to 10pm I think I measured .6" new every hour.

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We never got over 1"/hour rates here until the final few hours...2-4am when I was asleep. When I went to bed just before 2am there was about 5.5 and when I measured at 9am there was an additional 3.1 that mostly fell in those two hours....could have been 4+ but there was compaction.

We ripped at 1-2" per hour in the first 5-6 hours, then it kind of slowed a bit as the DS approached...then it went nuclear for a couple hours at the end.

The biggest difference between our totals was that while it was accumulating rapidly here in the late afternoon/early evening, you were probably marginal at the surface so it was accumulating more slowly. The elevation made the most difference early on in the storm.

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I was living in Canaan,NY, it's on the MA/NY border. I was going to Simon's Rock (Great Barrington) at the time. It was a blue bomb. A day or two later it was warm, like 70 degree warm if I remember correctly.

Ahh that makes sense then. That area got nuked in the '87 storm. Pretty sharp cutoff to the east.

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We ripped at 1-2" per hour in the first 5-6 hours, then it kind of slowed a bit as the DS approached...then it went nuclear for a couple hours at the end.

The biggest difference between our totals was that while it was accumulating rapidly here in the late afternoon/early evening, you were probably marginal at the surface so it was accumulating more slowly. The elevation made the most difference early on in the storm.

Yeah for sure. You being slightly west helped as well.

Westborough with 5", 9" here, 11" at town center, 15-17" higher in ORH. Very impressive cut-off.

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Yeah for sure. You being slightly west helped as well.

Westborough with 5", 9" here, 11" at town center, 15-17" higher in ORH. Very impressive cut-off.

Further west and higher probably had some extra upslope enhancement (that doesn't always show on radar) early on as well when the wind was out of 040.

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BTW ..They told me here in Dublin that it snowed for like 30 days straight last winter. Maybe some exaggeration there, but that was a sick neg. NAO. :) Hope we can get one to develop again, but maybe not quite as strong for me where I live.

Ahh that makes sense then. That area got nuked in the '87 storm. Pretty sharp cutoff to the east.

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Further west and higher probably had some extra upslope enhancement (that doesn't always show on radar) early on as well when the wind was out of 040.

Yeah, the hours from 530-8pm when the sun was set before the DS was approaching I had .6/hour for those 2-3 hours while surrounding elevations were racking up 1-1.5/hour totals.

I can't complain at 9" in October though. The other impressive gradient was NE mass near Ray to Dom to up near SnowNH. It went from 5" for Ray to 11" for Dom...to 13" for my cousins in Merrimack...to 16-20+" in MHT area and SW into Ridge and all the way south to Dave near Wachusett.

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As the hills had more prodigious rates for different stretches the upper end of the valley here stayed a steady 1"+/hour from 5pm until about 2am. 14-15" was on the ground when I checked a few spots at 2am. It was clear overhead at sunrise.

Pretty amazing storm when we can pull off that much snow at 400' in October.

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Been tracking the power outages across CT the past few hours. Was at 511,000 a few hours ago and now down to 480,927 so power slowly being restored. That's about 38% of CL&P customers.

Yea now they got those mains fixed they can get moving, looks like they are concentrating on main pop centers like Manchester, afraid Kev could be last because of his off the road location, been there done that.

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Yea now they got those mains fixed they can get moving, looks like they are concentrating on main pop centers like Manchester, afraid Kev could be last because of his off the road location, been there done that.

One of my brother's lives in Stafford, still 100% of the people there without power. He was told it could be another 2-3 weeks before they have power. The roads are so bad up there they can't get any trucks into the area. Every single road is blocked with wires or trees.

They even said it won't be until overnight Sunday that all of West Hartford has their power restored.

I still don't know how we never lost power at my house.

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Yea now they got those mains fixed they can get moving, looks like they are concentrating on main pop centers like Manchester, afraid Kev could be last because of his off the road location, been there done that.

Starting with the ice storm in Dec 2008, then Feb 2010 wind storm in S NH, Irene, and now Snow-ctober...I can't recall a 3 year period where we had so many instances of mass power outages in recent times.

Its been crazy. The trees might give up soon, lol. They've taken a beating the last 3 years.

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One of my brother's lives in Stafford, still 100% of the people there without power. He was told it could be another 2-3 weeks before they have power. The roads are so bad up there they can't get any trucks into the area. Every single road is blocked with wires or trees.

They even said it won't be until overnight Sunday that all of West Hartford has their power restored.

I still don't know how we never lost power at my house.

Well considering it took national grid 10-12 days to get power back to some areas in N ORH county in the Dec 2008 ice storm, I believe it with CLP running the show. They seem slow as molasses.

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Starting with the ice storm in Dec 2008, then Feb 2010 wind storm in S NH, Irene, and now Snow-ctober...I can't recall a 3 year period where we had so many instances of mass power outages in recent times.

Its been crazy. The trees might give up soon, lol. They've taken a beating the last 3 years.

We have seen some rather intense weather systems the past few years...those events you listed plus the tornado in June...the big storms last January.

What an intense cycle.

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One of my brother's lives in Stafford, still 100% of the people there without power. He was told it could be another 2-3 weeks before they have power. The roads are so bad up there they can't get any trucks into the area. Every single road is blocked with wires or trees.

They even said it won't be until overnight Sunday that all of West Hartford has their power restored.

I still don't know how we never lost power at my house.

Holy crap...

Can he get out of there?

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Well considering it took national grid 10-12 days to get power back to some areas in N ORH county in the Dec 2008 ice storm, I believe it with CLP running the show. They seem slow as molasses.

I wouldn't even be shocked if it's more like a month for some to be honest.

Even in this area when I've been out I only saw TWO CL&P trucks doing work and that was Sunday night. I'm sure they are out there but from where I have been going around I've seen none.

I'm sure though they have had to be out inspecting damage and such...on all the wires that are down or hanging low there is colored tape on them...I'm assuming this is them going around marking stuff off?

It has to be tough for them though b/c there are still so many trees/limbs on lines so they would have to wait for those to be removed to continue working, no?

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CL&P taking it on the chin... nice shoutout to DD

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/rick-green/hc-green-clp-weather-1103-20111102,0,3967529.column

"WVIT's Ryan Hanrahan wrote on his blog Wednesday that "obviously CL&P either has a private forecasting firm that is just plain bad or they were not listening."

A blunt statement posted online by the National Weather Service in Albany, which covers Litchfield County, offered a stern warning: "We are not going to take any chances with this storm. There could be major societal impact across a large portion of the forecast area ... 3 to 6 inches of heavy wet snow could be very perilous bringing down numerous limbs and power lines."

"This will be a historic October snowstorm … The heavy wet snow will likely produce major to catastrophic damage to trees and power lines.""

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CL&P taking it on the chin... nice shoutout to DD

http://www.courant.c...,3967529.column

"WVIT's Ryan Hanrahan wrote on his blog Wednesday that "obviously CL&P either has a private forecasting firm that is just plain bad or they were not listening."

A blunt statement posted online by the National Weather Service in Albany, which covers Litchfield County, offered a stern warning: "We are not going to take any chances with this storm. There could be major societal impact across a large portion of the forecast area ... 3 to 6 inches of heavy wet snow could be very perilous bringing down numerous limbs and power lines."

"This will be a historic October snowstorm … The heavy wet snow will likely produce major to catastrophic damage to trees and power lines.""

Lol at Ryan's quote...he's right though. How can they say it wasn't forecasted well? The snow came in during the early afternoon exactly like most of us thought it would (a little sooner to the south). The amounts were maybe just a shade higher than predicted down in CT, but it didn't change the impact much...devastation was goin gto happen even with 5" of wet snow. Nevermind 10"...probably 80% of the damage is already done by the time you hit 5" of wet snow on foliage.

I will say that I thought a lot of the forecasts on TV were very conservative until about 12-24 hours out...Ryan wasn't on his station, but in Boston they seemed to be. Most of the mets here on americanwx were going balls to the wall by 36 hours out.

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