Ginx snewx Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Believe it or not I actually saw a patch of snow in my walk home from work earlier. It was right in Brookline Village behind a town parking lot on a grassy area. I still have snow in my back yard, the snow on the roof melted today although the houses in the hollow still have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Or just read the ****ing directions on the genrator. I am sure there are giant red warnings everywhere not to run the unit indoors. The two that died had them outside but next to the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Or just read the ****ing directions on the genrator. I am sure there are giant red warnings everywhere not to run the unit indoors. On point: http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/springfield_fire_department_se.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 The two that died had them outside but next to the house. Wow... can that much CO seep into a house? Maybe they had a windo open for the lines or something... That sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Wow... can that much CO seep into a house? Maybe they had a windo open for the lines or something... That sucks Faulty muffler, keep seeing reports that say 1.6 million people without power, actually that's customers, so how many people is that really, 3mill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Should the storm 2 days before this one have been a red flag for this storm WRT upper air and supporting snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Should the storm 2 days before this one have been a red flag for this storm WRT upper air and supporting snow? That storm itself shouldn't really say too much in terms of the 2nd one...but the one thing you could say about that storm, was that it snowed down to the lower elevations fairly easily once the mid-levels cooled to like -5C and the 900mb were down into the -3C range. Given how cold those levels were progged to be in the 2nd storm with much better dynamics and heavier precip, it should have shown not to get too fixated on the time of year or surface temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 That storm itself shouldn't really say too much in terms of the 2nd one...but the one thing you could say about that storm, was that it snowed down to the lower elevations fairly easily once the mid-levels cooled to like -5C and the 900mb were down into the -3C range. Given how cold those levels were progged to be in the 2nd storm with much better dynamics and heavier precip, it should have shown not to get too fixated on the time of year or surface temps. When we were bantering we talked about how storm 1 was able to snow and stick then keep that boundary south. Good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewbeer Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Still no power here, but the outage reports have my town down to 96% of customers without power. Brought a small generator home from work and was able to wire the furnace to it to warm up the house and run the water heater. Took shower and ate dinner (grilled chicken & potatoes) by generator provided electric light. Much brighter than candles. Should only be a few more days now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Wiil, Are you going to do a post mortum thread for this storm? I am curious to hear your thoughts on which combo of models did the best in nailing down the outcome, Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 The two that died had them outside but next to the house. I'll wait for the details on that. I bet they were using it as a heater and were blowing the exast into the house or they had it right next to a vent with the fan blowing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Still no power here, but the outage reports have my town down to 96% of customers without power. Brought a small generator home from work and was able to wire the furnace to it to warm up the house and run the water heater. Took shower and ate dinner (grilled chicken & potatoes) by generator provided electric light. Much brighter than candles. Should only be a few more days now..... Stay safe watch the fumes, when Irene hit everyone had their windows open, hearing of more reports of outside generators seeping fumes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I'll wait for the details on that. I bet they were using it as a heater and were blowing the exast into the house or they had it right next to a vent with the fan blowing in. The muffler failed, two other reports tonight, cords ran through windows with exhaust facing the house. Got to be careful. Guy died in Palmer from propane portable heater that said safe to use inside, if properly vented.! Which they did not. Everyone should have CO sensors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinch1989 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Saw an interesting sight down on i95 in Milford today...state DOT out chipping small limbs laying 20 feet or more from the road...while many roads in my town (and many other towns) have roads closed and people trapped in their neighborhoods. I get the whole state vs town thing...but come on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Saw an interesting sight down on i95 in Milford today...state DOT out chipping small limbs laying 20 feet or more from the road...while many roads in my town (and many other towns) have roads closed and people trapped in their neighborhoods. I get the whole state vs town thing...but come on! Things that make you hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Wiil, Are you going to do a post mortum thread for this storm? I am curious to hear your thoughts on which combo of models did the best in nailing down the outcome, Thanks Yes I will be doing one...Ive already started it. Hopefully I'll have it by tomorrow sometime. It was just incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 You can't cut down anything and everything that *might* pose a threat to power lines...just doesn't seem feasible. While I agree that there are areas that look suspect to begin with, there's only so much precaution one could take towards the fact that it might snow 12+" with leaves still on the trees. I don't know, I just feel you can't really blame folks or companies for not being prepared for a 1 in 300+ year event. Some punches you just have to take on the chin. NO - you didn't read clearly " ...Intermingling". The issue was not with the powerlines themselves. The issue was trees that hung over on a sunny day, let alone 10" of paste, then collapsing upon them. If regular maintenance took place, much of that would have been averted, and the issue "would not have been nearly as pervasive". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Yes I will be doing one...Ive already started it. Hopefully I'll have it by tomorrow sometime. It was just incredible. Great, Looking forward to it, It was an amazing storm that we probably will never see again in our liftime.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 NO - you didn't read clearly " ...Intermingling". The issue was not with the powerlines themselves. The issue was trees that hung over on a sunny day, let alone 10" of paste, then collapsing upon them. If regular maintenance took place, much of that would have been averted, and the issue "would not have been nearly as pervasive". The thing is, they won't do that...if they did, every neighborhood would looked hacked to death. Its a question of aesthetics vs risk of losing power...and in this case, the risk of losing power is very low compared to the aesthetics. It takes a 1 in 300 year October snow bomb to lose power in a lot of these places that lost it. You aren't going to cut down every 12-24 inch thick limb that overhangs a power line because you are afraid that a once in a lifetime ice event or once in a lifetime wet snow event on foliage will cause it to come down. Its like cutting down all your trees within 30 feet of your house because you are afraid of the next hurricane of 1938 hitting and having them land on your house. Its a risk people are willing to take to make the neighborhood or property aesthetically pleasing. People will not tolerate it. This does, however, make those same people responsible for not complaining too much when it takes a week to get their power back. We choose to do it that way, so we have to accept the consequences when these types of events happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 NO - you didn't read clearly " ...Intermingling". The issue was not with the powerlines themselves. The issue was trees that hung over on a sunny day, let alone 10" of paste, then collapsing upon them. If regular maintenance took place, much of that would have been averted, and the issue "would not have been nearly as pervasive". Problem is no one wants to pay higher rates or special maintenance rates nor do people take an active roll in notifying the power company of trouble spots.....I agree with you in some places it's pretty obvious there's lack of trimming.... 80 hours and counting.....Amazing storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 "Fooking kook" guy got 22.7" His house just got power back at 10pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 "Fooking kook" guy got 22.7" His house just got power back at 10pm. LOL, good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I can't wait to weenie out a but with the storm disco. This thing was historic on so many levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 I can't wait to weenie out a but with the storm disco. This thing was historic on so many levels. Make a highlights reel A few of Ryan going nuts would be good. I've never seen that before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 "Fooking kook" guy got 22.7" His house just got power back at 10pm. perfect! (22.7! does he live on Asnebumskit Hill?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Make a highlights reel A few of Ryan going nuts would be good. I've never seen that before Lol I am the master of setting low expectations... But on Friday I texted phil and was like "I'm going to be disappointed if I don't get a foot" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Parents and sister have power restored as of this AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Obama granted Ma. a federal state of emergency declaration. I can't believe how many school districts S of here are closed for the week.. My neighbor is a principal and he believes the schools will be granted an exception so the days will not have to be made up. Northampton and Amherst still have many streets closed for downed limbs 4 days post storm. CO poisoning cases from poor heating choices keep rolling in. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Lol I am the master of setting low expectations... But on Friday I texted phil and was like "I'm going to be disappointed if I don't get a foot" Even from the outside looking in it was cool to see you get amped up. After years and years on these boards you know each posters general temperament and that was not Debbie downer posting on Friday and Saturday lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apm Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Put them underground....(yeah, more expensive initially). The thing is, they won't do that...if they did, every neighborhood would looked hacked to death. Its a question of aesthetics vs risk of losing power...and in this case, the risk of losing power is very low compared to the aesthetics. It takes a 1 in 300 year October snow bomb to lose power in a lot of these places that lost it. You aren't going to cut down every 12-24 inch thick limb that overhangs a power line because you are afraid that a once in a lifetime ice event or once in a lifetime wet snow event on foliage will cause it to come down. Its like cutting down all your trees within 30 feet of your house because you are afraid of the next hurricane of 1938 hitting and having them land on your house. Its a risk people are willing to take to make the neighborhood or property aesthetically pleasing. People will not tolerate it. This does, however, make those same people responsible for not complaining too much when it takes a week to get their power back. We choose to do it that way, so we have to accept the consequences when these types of events happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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