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Dec 11-13 MW/Lakes/OV snow event part 4


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With the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans battling it out (Atlantic signal says storm should be south of us, while Pacific says hold on.), yoiu sometimes get weird looking storms, such as the current one. You either cash in big time (IA, MN, WI, MI, central Ontario) or are out luck (upstate NY and the north shores of Lake Ontario and Erie).

But despite this, I'm 100 percent sure this winter will not be a repeat of last winter.

Northern ILL ain't doing to bad either Rockford has 7 inches already before this storm, that will drop 3-6 inches....

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DVN has officially flipped to snow.

Interesting. You can see the wind shift line pretty easily on the 88D velocity scans. It sure is creeping along slowly. Still just light rain here. It looked like we could go over to all snow an hour or two ago when those large flakes were mixing in, but it was just a tease.:guitar:

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PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN248 PM CST SAT DEC 11 2010

0247 PM SNOW OAKDALE 44.99N 92.97W12/11/2010 E20.0 INCH WASHINGTON MN TRAINED SPOTTER

STORM TOTAL SO FAR...ESTIMATED 9 INCHES IN THE PAST 4 HOURS.

MSP has 14.6 and Woodbury has 15 for comparison.

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With the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans battling it out (Atlantic signal says storm should be south of us, while Pacific says hold on.), yoiu sometimes get weird looking storms, such as the current one. You either cash in big time (IA, MN, WI, MI, central Ontario) or are out luck (upstate NY and the north shores of Lake Ontario and Erie).

But despite this, I'm 100 percent sure this winter will not be a repeat of last winter.

Yeah, you're not going to win all the battles. It's just disheartening that we've had so much consecutive bad luck. Even if bad luck was the predominant theme, as long as one or two decent storms were thrown in there, it wouldn't sting nearly as much. Since Feb, 3/09 I can't think of one snowfall event that hasn't busted/underperformed.

And I completely agree with that last statement. Last winter was once in a lifetime suckage. But I could see this winter being a 30-35" moderated crapfest nonetheless.

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very nice pics guys!

and yeah, SSC, it has been a dismal stretch of winter weather in the eastern lakes, really since the feb 2009 superstorm that wasnt.

the folks in new england/upstate (outside of lake effect) are suffering too.

yes, we've had a couple retro lows, and a nice surprise on in MTL earlier this week, but more rain is on the way.

it just seems that we cant get a good cold air source since all this higher lattitiude blocking began way back when.

that really is the main problem as i see it, in terms of 'what the heck is going on here?!?'

you have to believe it will turn at some point but i dont see it.

now having said all that, this could be at least a somewhat interesting event for ottawa, but not a true snowstorm by any means.

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PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN

303 PM CST SAT DEC 11 2010

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...

..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....

..REMARKS..

0300 PM SNOW MINNEAPOLIS 44.96N 93.27W

12/11/2010 M14.6 INCH HENNEPIN MN OFFICIAL NWS OBS

MEASURED AT THE MINNEAPOLIS/ST. PAUL INTERNATIONAL

AIRPORT. STORM TOTAL.

&&

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WWUS43 KIND 112105

WSWIND

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN

405 PM EST SAT DEC 11 2010

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES ARE IN EFFECT ALL AREAS BEGINNING 100

PM MONDAY. IN MOST AREAS THE ADVISORY WILL EXPIRE TOMORROW NIGHT AT

MIDNIGHT. HOWEVER FROM KOKOMO TO NEW CASTLE THE WINTER WEATHER

ADVISORY WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON MONDAY...

A COMBINATION OF SNOW...BLOWING SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL OCCUR

SUNDAY AFTERNOON INTO SUNDAY NIGHT AND LONGER IN SOME AREAS.

INZ028>030-035>037-039-043>048-051>057-060>065-067>072-120515-

/O.NEW.KIND.WW.Y.0008.101212T1800Z-101213T0500Z/

WARREN-TIPPECANOE-CLINTON-FOUNTAIN-MONTGOMERY-BOONE-HAMILTON-

VERMILLION-PARKE-PUTNAM-HENDRICKS-MARION-HANCOCK-VIGO-CLAY-OWEN-

MORGAN-JOHNSON-SHELBY-RUSH-SULLIVAN-GREENE-MONROE-BROWN-

BARTHOLOMEW-DECATUR-KNOX-DAVIESS-MARTIN-LAWRENCE-JACKSON-JENNINGS-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...LAFAYETTE...FRANKFORT...

CRAWFORDSVILLE...INDIANAPOLIS...TERRE HAUTE...SHELBYVILLE...

BLOOMINGTON...COLUMBUS...VINCENNES...BEDFORD...SEYMOUR

405 PM EST SAT DEC 11 2010

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM SUNDAY TO MIDNIGHT

EST SUNDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN INDIANAPOLIS HAS ISSUED A WINTER

WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...BLOWING SNOW AND HIGH WINDS WHICH IS

IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM SUNDAY TO MIDNIGHT EST SUNDAY NIGHT.

* MAIN IMPACT: ROADS WILL BECOME SNOW COVERED SLICK AND HAZARDOUS

FROM SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS: TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WILL RANGE FROM ONE INCH

NEAR VINCENNES AND BEDFORD TO TWO TO THREE INCHES IN THE

CRAWFORDSVILLE AND INDIANAPOLIS AREAS TO AS MUCH AS 4 INCHES

NEAR LAFAYETTE.

* TIMING: THE WORST TRAVEL CONDITIONS WILL OCCUR LATE SUNDAY AND

SUNDAY EVENING.

* OTHER IMPACTS: WINDS OF 25 TO 30 MPH WILL OCCUR BY LATE SUNDAY

WITH HIGHER GUSTS.

* WIND CHILL VALUES: WIND CHILLS WILL DROP BELOW ZERO SUNDAY NIGHT

AND MAY BE 5 TO 10 BELOW ZERO BY MONDAY MORNING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR BLOWING SNOW MEANS THAT

VISIBILITIES WILL BE LIMITED DUE TO STRONG WINDS BLOWING SNOW

AROUND. USE CAUTION WHEN TRAVELING...ESPECIALLY IN OPEN AREAS.

Looks like another significant snowfall in Lafayette.

Lake effect will be the wildcard. Hopefully they make a run @ 5" or so. Anyway, Marion/Kokomo looking to get 3-5" locally more due to lake effect per IND advisory. Hopefully roads won't be terrible Monday morning. Might regret making this trip home. axesmiley.png

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PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN

303 PM CST SAT DEC 11 2010

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...

..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....

..REMARKS..

0300 PM SNOW MINNEAPOLIS 44.96N 93.27W

12/11/2010 M14.6 INCH HENNEPIN MN OFFICIAL NWS OBS

MEASURED AT THE MINNEAPOLIS/ST. PAUL INTERNATIONAL

AIRPORT. STORM TOTAL.

&&

The NY Giants, trying to fly in have been diverted to MCI.

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Milwaukee update

MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW IS EXPECTED ACROSS MOST OF THE AREA THIS

EVENING...THEN EVERYWHERE LATER TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY...BEFORE

GRADUALLY TAPERING OFF FROM WEST TO EAST. STRONG LIFT DESCRIBED

ABOVE WILL BRING LARGE QPF AMOUNTS OF AROUND 0.60 INCHES IN THE

SOUTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF THE AREA TONIGHT AND SUNDAY...TO OVER 1.30

INCHES IN THE NORTHEAST. ROEBBER SNOW RATIO TECHNIQUE GAVE LOW

RATIOS OF AROUND 9 TO 1 DURING THE EVENING...THEN TRANSITION TO HIGH

RATIOS OF GREATER THAN 15 TO 1 FROM NORTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST LATER

TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY. THIS GIVES SNOW AMOUNTS FROM 6 TO 10 INCHES IN

THE SOUTHEAST...TO 12 TO 15 INCHES ACROSS THE NORTHEAST COUNTIES

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Rain mixing with snow here.

from LOT's Aviation update:

RADAR INDICATING BACK EDGE OF RAIN LIFTING

NORTHEAST...AND SHOULD REACH CHICAGO TAF SITES BETWEEN 01Z AND

03Z. BEHIND THAT...PRECIP WILL DIMINISH TO SPRINKLES AND DRIZZLE

AND WINDS WILL BECOME LIGHT SOUTH. THIS SHOULD ALLOW CIG AND

VISIBILITY TO LOWER THIS EVENING. AS LOW MOVES ACROSS THE CHICAGO

AREA OVERNIGHT WINDS WILL TURN LIGHT SOUTHWEST...THEN WEST. LIGHT

RAIN AND DRIZZLE WILL MIX AND CHANGE TO LIGHT SNOW AND FREEZING

DRIZZLE AROUND MIDNIGHT AS COLDER AIR MOVES IN.

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