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October 29/30 Snowstorm Disco - III


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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSIONNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA701 PM EDT FRI OCT 28 2011.SYNOPSIS...AN EARLY SEASON MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL BRING DAMAGING HEAVY WETSNOW TO THE INTERIOR...WITH STRONG DAMAGING WINDS/COASTAL FLOODINGALONG THE COAST LATE SAT AND SAT NIGHT. DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED FROMSUNDAY INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. A COLD FRONT MAY PRODUCE SHOWERSLATE NEXT WEEK.

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  On 10/28/2011 at 11:26 PM, CoastalWx said:

Phil may need to get his oxygen mask with this..lol. The 1.5PVU surface to 600mb. Hard to tell, but you can see the dip in red.

Those ensembles seem awfully far west for those reasons you/we stated earlier.

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If Hurricane Josh whats to see a storm with an eye, he might want to try ACY tomorrow.

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  On 10/28/2011 at 11:22 PM, CT Blizz said:

The thing is..I do think you get good snow up there..even with the Euro track. The eastern folks are worried simply because of the GFS adding confusion to an otherwise unified front of models.

It's like an Allied front against one rebel country

I guess the other thing to keep in mind was that the Ukie, was more in the Euro camp as well. So despite the NAM shifting a bit at 18z toward the GFS (it is the 18z nam after all which we usually toss), we should be somewhat confident pending a big change with the 0z runs.

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  On 10/28/2011 at 11:26 PM, CoastalWx said:

Phil may need to get his oxygen mask with this..lol. The 1.5PVU surface to 600mb. Hard to tell, but you can see the dip in red.

Those ensembles seem awfully far west for those reasons you/we stated earlier.

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Nice...was looking at that earlier today on the 12z runs. Bring it.

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  On 10/28/2011 at 11:21 PM, ORH_wxman said:

Yeah I think the thermal gradient will be obscenely packed in the SE...like Tip mentioned earlier. The lower res models won't handle that quite as well.

I'm trying to keep up but busy with kids/working so missing a lot of pages.

Makes sense, we're talking probably ten degrees in 3-4 miles with the cold side a blizzard. Right now it looks like it sets up between Rte 24 and I95. The climatological battleground is usually about Rte 138 to Rte 24, but that's later in the year so who knows?

I expect we'll see some serious model shuffling tonight/resolution to the differences.

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Ok so we wait, nowcast for me as I sit on the fence. Jerry has me 2-4 but I am thinking Wills reasoning wins out. Gut feeling after looking at everything from MM5 to Andy's Tandy, go big or go home. Ski Peter 15-20, QPF MPM 14-16 Wiz Ryan 10-14 Blizz 14. Will 16-20 Hunchie 18-22 Scooter 4-8 Jerry 4-8. Ray 12-16 Dom 14-16 Sammy Weiner 14-18 Modfan8-14 Nutmeg 4-8 Me Miser 6-12 Coastal RI 3-6 Taunton Bob 3-6 Mesenger 2-4 Phil 1-3 LltLib 6-10 Weather X 6-10 NwCt 14-18

It's fookin Oct, INSANITY

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  On 10/29/2011 at 12:05 AM, Ginx said:

Ok so we wait, nowcast for me as I sit on the fence. Jerry has me 2-4 but I am thinking Wills reasoning wins out. Gut feeling after looking at everything from MM5 to Andy's Tandy, go big or go home. Ski Peter 15-20, QPF MPM 14-16 Wiz Ryan 10-14 Blizz 14. Will 16-20 Hunchie 18-22 Scooter 4-8 Jerry 4-8. Ray 12-16 Dom 14-16 Sammy Weiner 14-18 Modfan8-14 Nutmeg 4-8 Me Miser 6-12 Coastal RI 3-6 Taunton Bob 3-6 Mesenger 2-4 Phil 1-3 LltLib 6-10 Weather X 6-10 NwCt 14-18

It's fookin Oct, INSANITY

Your area to the NW RI hills might have premature suicides where its not snowing well or mixing and the best banding is to the NW still, but then I think those areas will absolutely rip in the 2nd half of the storm. They should do fine.

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  On 10/29/2011 at 12:02 AM, Frisbetarian said:

You guys are awesome, and I love the updates, but the big story here (it's October and we can't ski on this sludge) is 13' semi-clean NE swell @ 9 seconds with still pretty warm Atlantic water and 27 MPH NW winds.

Screw the snow, see you at the beach.

I like you, where do you live?

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  On 10/29/2011 at 12:02 AM, Frisbetarian said:

You guys are awesome, and I love the updates, but the big story here (it's October and we can't ski on this sludge) is 13' semi-clean NE swell @ 9 seconds with still pretty warm Atlantic water and 27 MPH NW winds.

Screw the snow, see you at the beach.

Enjoy the waves!

See ya on the slopes

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  On 10/29/2011 at 12:05 AM, Ginx said:

Ok so we wait, nowcast for me as I sit on the fence. Jerry has me 2-4 but I am thinking Wills reasoning wins out. Gut feeling after looking at everything from MM5 to Andy's Tandy, go big or go home. Ski Peter 15-20, QPF MPM 14-16 Wiz Ryan 10-14 Blizz 14. Will 16-20 Hunchie 18-22 Scooter 4-8 Jerry 4-8. Ray 12-16 Dom 14-16 Sammy Weiner 14-18 Modfan8-14 Nutmeg 4-8 Me Miser 6-12 Coastal RI 3-6 Taunton Bob 3-6 Mesenger 2-4 Phil 1-3 LltLib 6-10 Weather X 6-10 NwCt 14-18

It's fookin Oct, INSANITY

Crack

5-10" mby

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  On 10/29/2011 at 12:05 AM, Ginx said:

Ok so we wait, nowcast for me as I sit on the fence. Jerry has me 2-4 but I am thinking Wills reasoning wins out. Gut feeling after looking at everything from MM5 to Andy's Tandy, go big or go home. Ski Peter 15-20, QPF MPM 14-16 Wiz Ryan 10-14 Blizz 14. Will 16-20 Hunchie 18-22 Scooter 4-8 Jerry 4-8. Ray 12-16 Dom 14-16 Sammy Weiner 14-18 Modfan8-14 Nutmeg 4-8 Me Miser 6-12 Coastal RI 3-6 Taunton Bob 3-6 Mesenger 2-4 Phil 1-3 LltLib 6-10 Weather X 6-10 NwCt 14-18

It's fookin Oct, INSANITY

Lol Steve. I admire your enthusiasm, but no way does Ullr allow me to have more than Petey

Higher numbers might be better for the trees? More fluff less cement

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  On 10/29/2011 at 12:07 AM, ORH_wxman said:

Your area to the NW RI hills might have premature suicides where its not snowing well or mixing and the best banding is to the NW still, but then I think those areas will absolutely rip in the 2nd half of the storm. They should do fine.

Any chance you issue updated numbers Kook er um Will?

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  On 10/29/2011 at 12:07 AM, ORH_wxman said:

Your area to the NW RI hills might have premature suicides where its not snowing well or mixing and the best banding is to the NW still, but then I think those areas will absolutely rip in the 2nd half of the storm. They should do fine.

Yea that's what I think, has that Dec 05 appeal to me, probably IP from hell too for a while. That's why Nutmeg I said that for you.

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  On 10/29/2011 at 12:11 AM, Ginx said:

Yea that's what I think, has that Dec 05 appeal to me, probably IP from hell too for a while. That's why Nutmeg I said that for you.

Makes sense. Supposed to go to a pig roast at 5 pm but I may hang at home because of the wind. Lots of trees around my house and I won't be lucky two times in a row.

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