CoastalWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Not everyone is quite so down.... AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA 1118 PM EDT SUN APR 22 2012 .SYNOPSIS... DEEP LOW PRESSURE WILL SPREAD RAIN AND SNOW ACROSS THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY REGION THROUGH MONDAY. SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE IN SOME AREAS...ESPECIALLY OVER THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH MONDAY/... MID/UPR LEVEL LOW PRESSURE CONTINUES TO DEVELOP TOWARD THE UPPER OHIO REGION TONIGHT AS SURFACE LOW MOVES UP THE EAST COAST. NO CHANGE TO FORECAST OF RAIN TO SNOW TRANSITION WITH AREAS OF HEAVY SNOW OVER AREAS NORTH AND EAST OF PITTSBURGH FOR THE NEAR TERM. MUCH WILL DEPEND ON BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPERATURES...DEVELOPMENT OF MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS AREAS...WHICH WOULD SUPPORT HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES...AS WELL AS ENCROACMENT OF MID LEVEL DRY SLOT. IN ADDITION...DEEPENING SURFACE LOW...OFFSET BY MIDWRN HIGH PRESSURE WILL INTENSIFY THE PRESSURE GRADIENT OVR THE REGION TODAY. WIND GUSTS OVER WESTERN COUNTIES MAY APPROACH ADVISORY CRITERIA AS MIXING LEVEL DEEPENS THIS AFTERNOON. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT MODELS CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HEAVY SNOWFALL EVENT AND NO CHANGES WILL BE MADE TO HEADLINES TONIGHT. Yeah you are in a little better shape being east and higher up. As winds become NW, that should help you out a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yeah you are in a little better shape being east and higher up. As winds become NW, that should help you out a bit more. Until I have to go to work.....downtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Dewpoints are slowly falling, once they're down to 32 F, the changeover should be soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Dewpoints are slowly falling, once they're down to 32 F, the changeover should be soon. I'm at 35*/34*..... If someone would have told me even Friday that I would have watching temps hour by hour tonight, I would have thought I lost it. I still may have considering that I'm here. I just keep thinking that even a rather pedestrian 3" storm is historic if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm at 35*/34*..... If someone would have told me even Friday that I would have watching temps hour by hour tonight, I would have thought I lost it. I still may have considering that I'm here. I just keep thinking that even a rather pedestrian 3" storm is historic if it happens. I'm still here too. 37 and falling and the rain has picked up. Rain/snow line seems to be moving into Westmoreland County from the East. I am hoping we can wake up to a couple inches like we did in October and then watch it snow lightly and melt during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Typical storm tracking for Southwestern pa. All the posts start out as "Western Pa. gets clobbered...gets crushed...Look out" Then we usually end up on the edge with a minor accumulation. Just like every year we get modeled for about 150 inches of snow every year only to end up with our average of 40 which comes 1 or 2 inches at a time. I too got sucked in and yes it was something to track but now I would rather have sunny and 55 than 1/2 inch of slush which will cancel my kids ball games early this week. Oh well. No I can say it with confidence. "I am ready for warm, humid air with Thunderstorms." (Of course I will still be on here tomorrow with my observations of the wet snow we do get...haha) The life of a weather nut. And we will all be back in November for more frustration. It's what we do. lol.....recent snow stats: 2009-2010 - 77.4 inches, third snowiest winter, and that was not a bunch of 1-2" events 2010-2011 - 56.7 inches, 17th snowiest winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 lol.....recent snow stats: 2009-2010 - 77.4 inches, third snowiest winter, and that was not a bunch of 1-2" events 2010-2011 - 56.7 inches, 17th snowiest winter . .From our weenie-istic perspective, any other month but February 2010 brings up feelings of what "could have been" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 lol.....recent snow stats: 2009-2010 - 77.4 inches, third snowiest winter, and that was not a bunch of 1-2" events 2010-2011 - 56.7 inches, 17th snowiest winter You are correct. 2010 we had the 2 big storms in February and last year we did okay. But my fellow posters on here will remember we only had one storm over 8 inches in about a 10 year period which was the Feb storm in 2003. As I said earlier we went from bullseye to a near miss in one day so of course I was frustrated. Western Pa. just seems to be the starting point for all the big storms and then they shift west, east, South and North from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 NAM dropped us down to less than an inch but GFS is keeping us close to 4 inches. Maybe we will wake up to a decent snow yet. Raining pretty steady now and 36. Will see in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Stop the cries, I had 5" this winter Lol...next time NYC busts on a big storm I'll go into your thread and say stop crying and see how that works out. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Lol...next time NYC busts on a big storm I'll go into your thread and say stop crying and see how that works out. Lol. Fair, legally speaking I live in bethel Park though! But feel free to come and break balls but the burgh will never feel the pain equivalent to March '01! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Lol...next time NYC busts on a big storm I'll go into your thread and say stop crying and see how that works out. Lol. Tell me about it, its enough to piss ya right off. CTP has slashed everyones totals by 70% lololol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Tell me about it, its enough to piss ya right off. CTP has slashed everyones totals by 70% lololol. What is odd is that in their 1 AM discussion, they said only minor tweaks expected to their snow forecast. However, if you look at the point and click, areas that had 14 inches before are now 1-3 inches total. I am assuming they are going to drop the warnings here shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA 131 AM EDT MON APR 23 2012 ...HEAVY AND WET SNOWFALL TO IMPACT AREA... .DEEP LOW PRESSURE WILL SPREAD RAIN AND SNOW ACROSS THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY REGION TODAY. SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATION OF HEAVY...WET SNOW IS EXPECTED...ESPECIALLY OVER THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. PAZ020-021-029-031-WVZ021-022-231345- /O.CON.KPBZ.WW.Y.0011.120423T0900Z-120424T0600Z/ BEAVER-ALLEGHENY-WASHINGTON-GREENE-MARION-MONONGALIA- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ALIQUIPPA...BEAVER FALLS...AMBRIDGE... MONACA...BEAVER...PITTSBURGH METRO AREA...WASHINGTON... CANONSBURG...DONORA...CALIFORNIA...CHARLEROI...MONONGAHELA... MCMURRAY...WAYNESBURG...FAIRDALE...FAIRMONT...MORGANTOWN 131 AM EDT MON APR 23 2012 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 5 AM EARLY THIS MORNING TO 2 AM EDT TUESDAY... * HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY WET SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...2 TO 5 INCHES OF SNOW. * TIMING...RAIN WILL CHANGE TO SNOW AS THE MORNING PROGESSES AND MAY BE BRIEFLY HEAVY. * IMPACTS...THE COMBINATION OF WIND AND HEAVY SNOW MAY DOWN SOME TREE LIMBS AND POWER LINES. * WINDS...NORTHWEST 15 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 MPH. * TEMPERATURES...IN THE MID 30S. * VISIBILITIES...MAY BE REDUCED TO A QUARTER MILE OR LESS IN AREAS OF HEAVY SNOW. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW MEANS THAT SNOWFALL WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR LIMITED VISIBILITY AND TREE LIMBS ON ROADS. REPORT SNOW ACCUMULATION TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BY CALLING TOLL FREE...1-877-633-6772. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 What is odd is that in their 1 AM discussion, they said only minor tweaks expected to their snow forecast. However, if you look at the point and click, areas that had 14 inches before are now 1-3 inches total. I am assuming they are going to drop the warnings here shortly. Yeah, they are just covering all the bases at the moment. I have some of CTP earlier forecast maps saved, so if this does bust, I'l make a few memes out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Fair, legally speaking I live in bethel Park though! But feel free to come and break balls but the burgh will never feel the pain equivalent to March '01! Yes - unless you are like me and lived in Harrisburg at the time. This is shaping up to be an overall storm bust more than a location bust - which is a little easier to take... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittWeatherWatch Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 About 2 inches of the heavy wet snow here in Latrobe. Roads are just slushy but many tree branches are nearly touching the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 About 2 inches of the heavy wet snow here in Latrobe. Roads are just slushy but many tree branches are nearly touching the ground. Wow, be carefull out there. What is your elevation approx. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Well, this was def the perfect way to end this winter, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Well, this was def the perfect way to end this winter, lol! One final screw you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Great! I'm starting to see the NWS bashers coming out on a sports board I post on! I love the uneducated public. I don't fault NWS Pit for this one at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Well, I guess we can just put this latest bust behind us now and get back to spring! Back to warm weather and thunderstorms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Well, I guess we can just put this latest bust behind us now and get back to spring! Back to warm weather and thunderstorms! I agree. Surprisingly I have not received one wet snowflake at all. Usually with a bust we will get a dusting at least. I told my wife we were getting snow on Monday and she told me that "no way it will snow this late in the year" With this storm I was expecting at least something. She laughed at me this morning and said "I told you" What could I say. We followed the damn models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I agree. Surprisingly I have not received one wet snowflake at all. Usually with a bust we will get a dusting at least. I told my wife we were getting snow on Monday and she told me that "no way it will snow this late in the year" With this storm I was expecting at least something. She laughed at me this morning and said "I told you" What could I say. We followed the damn models. Something yesterday morning just didn't look right, with the northern and gulf systems no where close to phasing. But after last nights monster discussion, I figured what do I know. Lol Should've stayed with eyeball test. Except for the 10 people that live above 2000 ft, this thing was cooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 This model (CMC) has been the best thus far that I have seen this year from predicting these storms. It had us on the outside looking in since Saturday morning but I didn't want to believe it. http://collaboration.cmc.ec.gc.ca/cmc/cmdn/pcpn_type/pcpn_type_gem_reg.html Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 What a bust. I was fully expecting the PIrate Game to be cancelled tonight, and was more than fine with that if it was snowing. Now, they cancelled it for a freaking drizzle. No snowstorm, no baseball game...ugh. Terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Winds just picked up. 33 mph gusting to 40 mph. Good thing no snow on the tree limbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Congrats 2700ft. ... Somerset County... Laurel Summit 18.1 350 PM 4/23 trained spotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 If I had fallen asleep yesterday afternoon, and not waken up until earlier this afternoon, I would have thought I had only slept for 1/2 hr. Lol Everything looks same except for the winds being Nw rather than Ne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Congrats 2700ft. ... Somerset County... Laurel Summit 18.1 350 PM 4/23 trained spotter Hell yeah.! Looking at the road cams this morning, I would not have wanted to have to drive to Altoona. Dishong Mtn looked dicey all morning. Driving the high part of US 22, in heavy snow is not fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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