Itunis Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I have pics from Oct. 2009 in State college. Here is what 5-6" can do. Thankfully there is a good bit less foliage on trees than there was then, but it could still be ugly. The real damage will be in places like Harrisburg, who look to get even more and have more foliage left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Has anyone even broached the possibility of the PSU game being cancelled for concerns over public safety or even game conditions which are simply too bad? Has that ever happened for snow? I know thunderstorm activitiy is usually the only thing that stops a football game but how could they play in snow fall rates like the NAM and GFS would suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Thankfully there is a good bit less foliage on trees than there was then, but it could still be ugly. The real damage will be in places like Harrisburg, who look to get even more and have more foliage left. 95% of the trees still have leaves here. Most of them green. So I was talking in vernal what 5-6" can do anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Has anyone even broached the possibility of the PSU game being cancelled due to public safety or even game conditions which are simply too bad? Has that ever happened for snow? I know thunderstorm activitiy is usually the only thing that stops a football game but how could they play in snow fall rates like the NAM and GFS would suggest? The day they cancel a football game because of snow is the day America is done. You understand me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Has anyone even broached the possibility of the PSU game being cancelled for concerns over public safety or even game conditions which are simply too bad? Has that ever happened for snow? I know thunderstorm activitiy is usually the only thing that stops a football game but how could they play in snow fall rates like the NAM and GFS would suggest? Cancel a game? Hah! They don't even close campus when trees are falling on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 They don't even close campus when trees are falling on people. They also don't forgive the fallen's family of their student loan debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 12z GFS is amazing. Link to MSLP? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Link to MSLP? Thanks! http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/AVNEAST_12z/avneastloop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU8315 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Has anyone even broached the possibility of the PSU game being cancelled for concerns over public safety or even game conditions which are simply too bad? Has that ever happened for snow? I know thunderstorm activitiy is usually the only thing that stops a football game but how could they play in snow fall rates like the NAM and GFS would suggest? To me, the heaviest snow is probably out of State College for most of the game. There could be some decent snow falling at the beginning of the game, but these always seem to wrap up quicker than expected. The problem will be getting to the game, because that's probably when we'll be getting the heaviest snow. It's almost too bad it's not a noon game - that could be really fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 The day they cancel a football game because of snow is the day America is done. You understand me? eagles-vikings last year but i sure hope i don't go to state college tomorrow for the game to be cancelled...missing homecoming at my school for the game. but highly highly doubtful they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Cancel a game? Hah! They don't even close campus when trees are falling on people. Ok, was not sure. Just can't imagine them playing in the middle of a "Blizzard" but I guess I am just getting old. Ha. I do know that some things are handled differently due to the litigious nature of our society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 eagles-vikings last year Ed Rendell fought like hell to keep that from happening. They should have played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 First warning out to the west. Ours probably comes now to 230. MDZ001-PAZ074-076-WVZ023-041-290045-/O.UPG.KPBZ.WS.A.0007.111029T0100Z-111029T2000Z//O.NEW.KPBZ.WS.W.0008.111028T2300Z-111030T0000Z/GARRETT-WESTMORELAND RIDGES-FAYETTE RIDGES-PRESTON-TUCKER-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...OAKLAND MD...GRANTSVILLE...LIGONIER...DONEGAL...NEW FLORENCE...ACME...CHAMPION...NORMALVILLE...FARMINGTON...OHIOPYLE...MARKLEYSBURG...KINGWOOD...TERRA ALTA...PARSONS...DAVIS...THOMAS1238 PM EDT FRI OCT 28 2011...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 8 PMEDT SATURDAY...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PITTSBURGH HAS ISSUED A WINTERSTORM WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECTFROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 8 PM EDT SATURDAY. THE WINTER STORMWATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.* HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY WET SNOW.* ACCUMULATIONS...5 TO 9 INCHES OF SNOW, WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS ACROSS THE HIGHEST RIDGES.* TIMING...SNOW WILL INCREASE IN INTENSITY TONIGHT AND BEGIN TO TAPER OFF SATURDAY AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING.* IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS CAN BE EXPECTED WITH ACCUMULATING WET SNOW. THE HEAVY WET SNOW ACCUMULATION WILL LEAD TO DOWNED TREE LIMBS AND CAUSE POWER OUTAGES.* WINDS...EAST AT 5 TO 10 MPH...BECOMING NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 15 MPH SATURDAY AFTERNOON.* TEMPERATURES...IN THE UPPER 20S SATURDAY MORNING, WARMING TO THE LOWER 30S BY SATURDAY AFTERNOON.* VISIBILITIES...LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILE AT TIMES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Ok, was not sure. Just can't imagine them playing in the middle of a "Blizzard" but I guess I am just getting old. Ha. I do know that some things are handled differently due to the litigious nature of our society. Remember, for a snowstorm to be a blizzard, you must have sustained winds of over 35 mph. I hardly see wind being a factor with this storm. This will be more of a heavy wet snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Some areas could be looking at 40% tree damage. Will be watch power outages rack up tomorrow for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Whatever the 12z Euro says today, I'm going to trust as being very near to what will actually occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Remember, for a snowstorm to be a blizzard, you must have sustained winds of over 35 mph. I hardly see wind being a factor with this storm. This will be more of a heavy wet snow. Yes, that was why I put the quotes. Lots of people do look at snow falling at rates of 1-2" an hour as a "blizzard" since it would be a white out anyway regardless if it is due to falling vs. blowing snow. Should have used a different word though I think sustained winds of ~20 MPH would not be out of the question as to taking the snow and making a new wet cement like wall on wind facing structures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catoctin wx Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Sorry if this is OT, but does anybody know if PennDOT is out treating the roads? Do they plan on going out tonight to do it, or is there no point since the preceding rain will wash away the salt? I was planning on heading out to Lancaster tomorrow, which is why I'm asking this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Sorry if this is OT, but does anybody know if PennDOT is out treating the roads? Do they plan on going out tonight to do it, or is there no point since the preceding rain will wash away the salt? I was planning on heading out to Lancaster tomorrow, which is why I'm asking this thread. I only could hope they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I only could hope they are. That would be one way to raise public awareness. When people see the trucks with lights flashing sitting along the road, on their way home from work, they start to wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Jim Cantore is coming to Harrisburg... that's when you know things may be bad when he shows up in your area!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Jim Cantore is coming to Harrisburg... that's when you know things may be bad when he shows up in your area!! *begins quickly packing belongings* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Jim Cantore is coming to Harrisburg... that's when you know things may be bad when he shows up in your area!! they tried that once before back in the 90's and it didn't work out for any of us, storm went way west. the crew from TWC kept moving. in the morning they were standing on the steps of the capitol saying, "Harrisburg will be measuring their snow with this" and he held up a yard stick........not sure if we even got an inch that time. is he for real coming here, or you kidding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 That would be one way to raise public awareness. When people see the trucks with lights flashing sitting along the road, on their way home from work, they start to wonder why. Excellent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Jim Cantore is coming to Harrisburg... that's when you know things may be bad when he shows up in your area!! I figured he would head out this way. Wish he would have come to Ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Warning issued by CTP...6 - 10 for most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Catoctin WX, No pre-treat as of now. I gather you are coming to Homecoming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Jim Cantore is coming to Harrisburg... that's when you know things may be bad when he shows up in your area!! Can only hope for some thunder snow ala Chicago last year and watch him run after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 PAZ012-018-019-024>028-033>037-041-042-045-046-049>053-056>059-063>066-290115-/O.CON.KCTP.WS.W.0010.111029T0600Z-111030T0200Z/NORTHERN CLINTON-NORTHERN CENTRE-SOUTHERN CENTRE-CAMBRIA-BLAIR-HUNTINGDON-MIFFLIN-JUNIATA-SOMERSET-BEDFORD-FULTON-FRANKLIN-TIOGA-NORTHERN LYCOMING-SULLIVAN-SOUTHERN CLINTON-SOUTHERN LYCOMING-UNION-SNYDER-MONTOUR-NORTHUMBERLAND-COLUMBIA-PERRY-DAUPHIN-SCHUYLKILL-LEBANON-CUMBERLAND-ADAMS-YORK-LANCASTER-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...RENOVO...PHILIPSBURG...STATE COLLEGE...JOHNSTOWN...ALTOONA...HUNTINGDON...MOUNT UNION...LEWISTOWN...MIFFLINTOWN...SOMERSET...BEDFORD...MCCONNELLSBURG...CHAMBERSBURG...MANSFIELD...WELLSBORO...LAPORTE...LOCK HAVEN...WILLIAMSPORT...LEWISBURG...SELINSGROVE...DANVILLE...SUNBURY...SHAMOKIN...BLOOMSBURG...BERWICK...NEWPORT...HARRISBURG...HERSHEY...POTTSVILLE...LEBANON...CARLISLE...GETTYSBURG...YORK...LANCASTER114 PM EDT FRI OCT 28 2011...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 10 PM EDTSATURDAY...* LOCATIONS...MOST OF CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA* HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY WET SNOW...MAY BE MIXED WITH RAIN AT THE ONSET.* ACCUMULATIONS...4 TO 8 INCHES OF SNOW.* TIMING...SHORTLY AFTER MIDNIGHT IN THE LAUREL HIGHLANDS... SPREADING OVER THE REMAINDER OF THE WARNING AREA OVERNIGHT AND INTO SATURDAY MORNING.* IMPACTS...THE HEAVY WET SNOW WILL CREATE SLIPPERY TRAVEL CONDITIONS. IN ADDITION WIDESPREAD POWER OUTAGES WILL BE POSSIBLE AS THE SNOW WEIGHS HEAVILY ON TREES WHICH MAY STILL HAVE MOST OF THEIR LEAVES.* WINDS...NORTH 5 TO 10 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH.* TEMPERATURES...IN THE LOWER 30S.* VISIBILITIES...REDUCED TO WELL UNDER A MILE AT TIMES. Odd cause the headliner says 6-10" Conflicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 where has tony martin been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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