Santa Clause Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Skunked again..... .7 inches total band moving out....this stinks...Im moving to Lancaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Roads are horrible in Lancaster County. Several accidents on the Turnpike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Here's the first of mine, forwarded to NWS State College's F-book. Top of Wopsy. Great pics Hckyplayer. Thanks Mag. The pics are from 1200ft. Down to 1000ft they had about 8". Down at my house at 500ft I have about 3" because of melting during times of slower snowfall. The field has been plowed and heated. This game stinks Lame. Way to ruin a historic game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Skunked again..... .7 inches total band moving out....this stinks...Im moving to Lancaster. I'll join you. Either there or Central NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 whats the elevation up there? Up over 2400 feet in elevation. Down here at my place my best guesstimate of accumulation in the more open areas that got the best accums was about 3 inches. Problem here is the yards lined by mostly oaks that still have most of their foliage.. so the snow really hasn't been laying too well in some places around the yard. Pretty much a carbon copy of the Oct. 2009 storm here. Altoona looked to have had a bit more, especially around the PSU Altoona Campus. And taking that road up past the campus that goes up Wopsy the snow accumulations really started to rapidly ramp up before I even got near the top. Thats probably not the only location, theres liable to be some big totals coming in out of the high ground of Cambria and Somerset. Further east, the high ground of Tussey and Seven Mountains might have amounts that are comparable. Since the really intense bands look to stay east of this area, the high ground took advantage of being colder and having much better snow ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 I would love to manage just 2.5 more hours of snow. With the sun going down things could get interesting quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Snow has tapered to just a few flakes here. Stepping outside, sounds like rain runoff with melting going on. Just measured 4.5" on my patio table, 5" in the open grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I would love to manage just 2.5 more hours of snow. With the sun going down things could get interesting quick. There is some stuff coming around from the western mountains. Might make it snow for 2-3 hrs more here but light. Look to finished at 6-7". Amazing storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Nasty around HBG, tons of accidents and trees down. Scary actually .... moderate snow still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Skunked again..... .7 inches total band moving out....this stinks...Im moving to Lancaster. lol what do you expect, this is what happens when CTP goes against climatology. I knew some of these warnings and all of the advisories whould not pan out. The counties I listed yesterday do NOT do well in true Nor Easters unless its an inland runner. And Bradford, Lycoming, parts of Centre and Blair counties only do well somewhat well in coastal huggers like this was. I figured most accumulations would be difficult to reach 8" in the valley areas just purely because of the time of year. There is no reason to say it won't accumulate this time of year like Jaime says, but its very difficult to get large numbers unless you're on the ridge tops about and above 1200ft at a decent rate of snowfall to boot to help cool the column of air. The only reason I think CTP went with warnings this far west is purely because of the QPF amounts and because of the time of year. I'm sure some parts of counties with high elevations reached warning criteria but the major of the low lying areas in these counties probably did not because of the melting and compaction, I'm sure when it all boils down, the QPF was quite accurately modeled (maybe we will see). I know I did not reach the .25" of QPF amounts predicted. Either way it was still an amazing storm for sure for this time of year, but we can all learn from the mistakes and continue to grow meteorologically. I'm not trying to poo poo this storm, just stating facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Amazing snows right now. Accidents all over the place and the scanner is lighting up. Temperature 31 Dew Point 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU8315 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Up over 2400 feet in elevation. Down here at my place my best guesstimate of accumulation in the more open areas that got the best accums was about 3 inches. Problem here is the yards lined by mostly oaks that still have most of their foliage.. so the snow really hasn't been laying too well in some places around the yard. Pretty much a carbon copy of the Oct. 2009 storm here. Altoona looked to have had a bit more, especially around the PSU Altoona Campus. And taking that road up past the campus that goes up Wopsy the snow accumulations really started to rapidly ramp up before I even got near the top. Thats probably not the only location, theres liable to be some big totals coming in out of the high ground of Cambria and Somerset. Further east, the high ground of Tussey and Seven Mountains might have amounts that are comparable. Since the really intense bands look to stay east of this area, the high ground took advantage of being colder and having much better snow ratios. Yeah, I would guess between 2" and 3" in Altoona. There looked to be more on the ridges along I-99, maybe closer to 5" or 6". Got a report from Blue Knob of 12" and have gotten unofficial reports of 10"+ in southern Huntingdon county. Some of those ridges that sat under that heavy band in Huntingdon County probably got over a foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Sun starting to set, snow is accumulating on everything. A steady, moderate rate. 3.5" Temperature 31 Dew Point 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Crazy to see how the different variables have affected snowfall totals. ABC 27 is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I measured around 5.5". But it might be closer to 6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Yeah, I would guess between 2" and 3" in Altoona. There looked to be more on the ridges along I-99, maybe closer to 5" or 6". Got a report from Blue Knob of 12" and have gotten unofficial reports of 10"+ in southern Huntingdon county. Some of those ridges that sat under that heavy band in Huntingdon County probably got over a foot. Yea that sounds about right, judging by the radar the Knobs gonna be continuing to pile it up with that back end stuff. Hopin to see some of that back end, might salvage a lil bit more since its late in the day. Got a heck of a nice dryslot connection comin from 2001kx attm though haha. Even though the really intense bands missed, this still would've been a big hitter for mid-winter standards down into Altoona and State College if we had another month or so. Local nit picks aside, still a great storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Another reason I never like WGAL, they are not very good at their snow forecasts and they always underplayGot almost 6" and I was in the 1-3 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Starting to hear the snap of tree branches. Snow continues. Temperature 31 Dew Point 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbru316 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Another reason I never like WGAL, they are not very good at their snow forecasts and they always underplay<img src="http://208.71.34.143/public/style_emoticons/default/gun_bandana.gif" /><img src="http://208.71.34.143/public/style_emoticons/default/gun_bandana.gif" /><img src="http://208.71.34.143/public/style_emoticons/default/gun_bandana.gif" /><img src="http://208.71.34.143/public/style_emoticons/default/gun_bandana.gif" />Got almost 6" and I was in the 1-3 range. Same here. Factoring in melting and compaction, we are over 6" just north of Lancaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbru316 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Not home at the moment, at my in-laws in mountville after helping my bro in-law move (heckuva day to move...) but I'm pretty sure the electricity in Neffsville is out. My weather station has stopped uploading to wunderground, and it's page has switched to flyway industrial park. Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 6.5" here in ship and it is about over. Doubt any more accumulations but it will snow for another hour or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 lol what do you expect, this is what happens when CTP goes against climatology. I knew some of these warnings and all of the advisories whould not pan out. The counties I listed yesterday do NOT do well in true Nor Easters unless its an inland runner. And Bradford, Lycoming, parts of Centre and Blair counties only do well somewhat well in coastal huggers like this was. I figured most accumulations would be difficult to reach 8" in the valley areas just purely because of the time of year. There is no reason to say it won't accumulate this time of year like Jaime says, but its very difficult to get large numbers unless you're on the ridge tops about and above 1200ft at a decent rate of snowfall to boot to help cool the column of air. The only reason I think CTP went with warnings this far west is purely because of the QPF amounts and because of the time of year. I'm sure some parts of counties with high elevations reached warning criteria but the major of the low lying areas in these counties probably did not because of the melting and compaction, I'm sure when it all boils down, the QPF was quite accurately modeled (maybe we will see). I know I did not reach the .25" of QPF amounts predicted. Either way it was still an amazing storm for sure for this time of year, but we can all learn from the mistakes and continue to grow meteorologically. I'm not trying to poo poo this storm, just stating facts. Translated: I am being pissy because it didn't snow in my backyard. Read what MAG posted and some of the reports in Harrisburg/York/Lancaster - that took great big gloppy white poos all over climotology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfox1 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Power back after 4 1/2 hours. Have 6" on glass table even with melting. Are some off you guys serious about bitching about wgal becouse the accum line was off several miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 WOW - what an epic event. 6" of snow in Lancaster on October 29th. Who 'd have thunk it? Still trying to wrap my brain around it actually. Just got done carving pumpkins with the kids, trick or treating in 2 days, still have to mow a time or 2 - and there's 6 friggin' inches of snow on the ground! Another NWS screenshot for the archives and kudos the Euro for sniffing this one out a week or so ago. Also, a big thanks to everyone here for the top notch forecasting and discussion as usual. This place is the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Have 4.8, here's the rest of the amounts around Centre County: ...CENTRE COUNTY... STORMSTOWN 6.0 418 PM 10/29 NWS EMPLOYEE PARK FOREST 5.0 345 PM 10/29 NWS EMPLOYEE PORT MATILDA 3.8 110 PM 10/29 NWS EMPLOYEE PLEASANT GAP 2.6 230 PM 10/29 NWS EMPLOYEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 That was one fast storm. 6.5" in 9 hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 This really does remind me of Oct 2009. Places under trees have very little snow, then there's a lot of snow right next to it. Plus, one warm ground phenomena I've noticed - melting snow from below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Translated: I am being pissy because it didn't snow in my backyard. Read what MAG posted and some of the reports in Harrisburg/York/Lancaster No I'm being serious, I never said Harrisburg/York/ Lancaster did bad, I'm talking about the western part of the warned area and in general those that were below 1200ft did not reach 8" . Yes ridge top locations reached true winter storm warnings ie 8" + the majority of valley locations did not, I logically explained myself above. The "some" of the warnings and advisories I said yesterday did NOT reach their criteria, I did not mention Lancaster, York, and mid southern counties that normally do well in Nor Easters because I figured they would perform but I explained why the others did not. I wasn't expecting anything out this way so I'm not mad, I'm just being realistic and if I'm called pissy for that than I guess I am. I'm sure alot of others agree with my sentiments. I'm not bashing or even mad at meteorologist for being wrong, I'm just saying they weren't totally right. I think this storm was badass regardless, I'm just analysing what actually took place. Plus this storm ended faster than most thought. I like being critical, there is a difference between critical-realistic and mad. Woohoo how bout those records ehhhh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 If our greyhound could post, after today's walk this is what she would post: OMG GUYZ THIS IS GREAT I USED TO LIVE IN FLORIDA SO LAST YEAR I WASNT SURE ABOUT SNOW AT FIRST BUT LOVE IT NOW OMG ITS GREAT TO WALK IN DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN SLIDE IN IT OMG THATS CRAZY YOU CAN ALSO EAT IT INCLUDING THE LEAVES PLUS I RECOMMEND RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLES AND THEN STOPPING TO POOP YOU MAKE LIKE A CROP CIRCLE IN THE SNOW WITH A PILE OF POOP POTTER AND WMSPTWX WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT WE GOT WAY MORE SNOW THAN CLIMATOLOGY AND CMON LANCASTER GETS SIX INCHES EVEN I KNOW THATS NOT CLIMO AND I DONT EVEN USE APOSTROPHES OKAY I AM GOING TO LAY DOWN NOW FOR THE NEXT FIVE HOURS LATER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 This really does remind me of Oct 2009. Places under trees have very little snow, then there's a lot of snow right next to it. Plus, one warm ground phenomena I've noticed - melting snow from below. I probably could use my October 2009 pictures from around the house and use em for this one with how the snow laid in places and didn't in others. Carbon copy, minus a few leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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