Ian Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Well, the only consolation would be that it's different than the NAM/SREFS and supposedly we're in the NAM's wheelhouse. 500 is still pretty decent .. better than the nam almost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 we should probably travel for this one....i'll see about getting a car with 4wd.... yes.. im planning on it but i have the dog so i need to be back same day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUweathermanDD Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 How do you know that the reason for the difference is due to synoptic/mesoscale features, rather than differences in large scale patterns over the NH? If it is the latter the GFS would handle that better, so I can't see why one necessarily applies over the other unless you can definitively determine the causation for the change. And the RGEM & SREF are west, so that puts the NAM out as an outlier. Though LWX does like the eastward track it seems. I'd agree the GFS is better with NH patterns and the broader scheme, but this has a huge involvement with some mesoscale features and some exact things involving the column, the 850 low/500 low tracks, where the freezing line is, a CCB etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I think I like my location for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I'd agree the GFS is better with NH patterns and the broader scheme, but this has a huge involvement with some mesoscale features and some exact things involving the column, the 850 low/500 low tracks, where the freezing line is, a CCB etc. Ok, but you can't assume that is the reason for the rapid deepening on the GFS and that it is wrong since there are many aspects I don't think. And have you ever thought about giving the outlier less weight? The NAM has had a bias of letting energy escape on the front flank of EC storm troughs leading to an east track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUweathermanDD Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Ok, but you can't assume that is the reason for the rapid deepening on the GFS and that it is wrong since there are many aspects I don't think. And have you ever thought about giving the outlier less weight? The NAM has had a bias of letting energy escape on the front flank of EC storm troughs. Oh I'm certainly not favoring the NAM right now none for the matter, I wanna see the Euro though as that'll give us all a beat on things and likely correctly analyze these pieces of energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 0z UKMET is a lot less wound up and colder then the GFS. More in line with the NAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Can't stay up for the Euro, not conditioned for this yet, I need more of a preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 0z UKMET is a lot less wound up and colder then the GFS. More in line with the NAM Having problems accessing the UKMET data from the site I use, how is QPF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Having problems accessing the UKMET data from the site I use, how is QPF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 There is a time in between these 2 but the UKMET skips that panel so use your imagination...either way its obviously colder and less amped then the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 from a climo standpoint I like the GFS better than the NAM...plus it is a better model....doesn't mean it is right, but i would favor it over the NAM if I had to lean one way for sure. euro/gfs blend probably still good tho the gfs looks about what you'd expect for an early season storm. i only look at the ukmet when people post it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 You are all welcome to come visit up here... Hope the Euro shows something nice, I will check it when I get up. Have a feeling the GFS is a little over amped this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 You are all welcome to come visit up here... Hope the Euro shows something nice, I will check it when I get up. Have a feeling the GFS is a little over amped this run. Watch what you say, you could end up having the entire MA subforum INBY (In YOUR backyard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Lotsa folks northeast of us gonna get a crash course on why its important to trim those trees that are situated close to the house. Gut tells me I'll see a good hard rain - followed by a dusting of snow. Picturesque but no tree/structural house damage here. You won't see ME askin' how much for Dale City. This system's a no-brainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 So we have UKMET/NAM vs GFS/RGEM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Weatherbell 3-6 dc burbs 1-3 dc city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Doug K on channel 4 says 3-6" out this way... I thought you were joking... You were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I thought you were joking... You were not. i like it.. it's close to cwg's thoughts that go up at 5 and DCA is in the few flakes slot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Weatherbell 3-6 dc burbs 1-3 dc city You pay 17 bucks a month for him, you are nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlYourWxPal Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 i like it.. it's close to cwg's thoughts that go up at 5 and DCA is in the few flakes slot! Go over to my facebook page...we posted a map there for the Hagerstown area. This is a tough one...will probably bump totals up some more, but played conservative for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 i like it.. it's close to cwg's thoughts that go up at 5 and DCA is in the few flakes slot! I was watching the game. Is it going to be coming down so hard that it'll get that deep? Heavy snow? I guess I can wait until the post goes live... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 You pay 17 bucks a month for him, you are nuts. Twitter is free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I was watching the game. Is it going to be coming down so hard that it'll get that deep? Heavy snow? I guess I can wait until the post goes live... There won't be a map till later in the morning but you're in the same zone as that map in the forecast for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Go over to my facebook page...we posted a map there for the Hagerstown area. This is a tough one...will probably bump totals up some more, but played conservative for now. doesnt look bad either. i was actually wondering a bit about the western extent of the nbc map.. cwg doesnt forecast out that far west per se. i'd have gladly sat out the real discussion on this one as it's pretty tricky.. much moreso than the relatively continuity in models say imo. too bad i edit thurs night and have to write a forecast fri night. on the plus side there's lots of other guidance from jason et al than just me and the models in these situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 dc area could certainly bust but as much as i want to buy the nam i just cant until it does it again at 12z and 18z tomorrow at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlYourWxPal Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 doesnt look bad either. i was actually wondering a bit about the western extent of the nbc map.. cwg doesnt forecast out that far west per se. i'd have gladly sat out the real discussion on this one as it's pretty tricky.. much moreso than the relatively continuity in models say imo. too bad i edit thurs night and have to write a forecast fri night. on the plus side there's lots of other guidance from jason et al than just me and the models in these situations. I know the western edge is hard to pinpoint..I have to go on air early Sat. morning! Fun times though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 dc area could certainly bust but as much as i want to buy the nam i just cant until it does it again at 12z and 18z tomorrow at least At least the UKIE appears to agree with it... seems like a lot rides on this EURO run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 At least the UKIE appears to agree with it... seems like a lot rides on this EURO run too bad the time change didnt happen already.. so close to the euro but i dont think i can make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 too bad the time change didnt happen already.. so close to the euro but i dont think i can make it. Its what, 30 mins away? You can do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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