RTutton Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It means the GWO is probably in phase 7 or 8. I doubt it stays that way thru the winter. So, this? - "Phase 7 (El-Nino like) – the global relative AAM anomaly is positive. Westerly wind anomalies move into the Eastern Hemisphere, broaden in latitudinal extent and link up with deep westerly flow anomalies over the mid-latitude Western Hemisphere. An extended Pacific Ocean jet stream and southward shifted storm track is observed, favoring high impact weather events along the USA west coast." And are you inferring that this won't last long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 This is the third weekend in a row that we were able to get out and do a long hike. We did Old Rag on Christmas Day, Catoctin mountains last week, and today, stayed local at Patapsco State Park. Each hike had progressively better weather, and although today was incredible as we were able to hike in shorts, it's time for some cold and snow. This looks unnatural for January. Patapsco St Pk is a really beautiful park. I've done a bit of hiking there myself. I really love the disc golf course @ the McKeldin area too. I was out running the dog in the woods yesterday in shorts and a t and I was sweating like it was summer. Yesterday qualifies as a serious torch. lol Have you spent much time hiking around Gunpowder falls? I want to go there this spring when the water is running high and get some pics. Are there good trails to hike? It's a bit over an hour drive for me so if it's average or below average I'll take a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Alright ladies and gents, a legit Nina question. SOI values seem to be plummeting into the negative range. Isn't -16 more of a Nino value, or do these values tend to fluctuate wildly on a week to week basis? Please help educate a Nina/Nino idiot here. http://www.longpaddo...30daysoivalues/ Daily values can be quite variable. From the Aussies: http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/glossary/soi.shtml Daily or weekly values of the SOI do not convey much in the way of useful information about the current state of the climate, and accordingly the Bureau of Meteorology does not issue them. Daily values in particular can fluctuate markedly because of daily weather patterns, and should not be used for climate purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 So, this? - "Phase 7 (El-Nino like) – the global relative AAM anomaly is positive. Westerly wind anomalies move into the Eastern Hemisphere, broaden in latitudinal extent and link up with deep westerly flow anomalies over the mid-latitude Western Hemisphere. An extended Pacific Ocean jet stream and southward shifted storm track is observed, favoring high impact weather events along the USA west coast." And are you inferring that this won't last long? I'm inferring that usually the GWO has cycles sort of like the MJO so we probably will not stay in phase 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'm inferring that usually the GWO has cycles sort of like the MJO so we probably will not stay in phase 7. which is worse? this winter...the skins or the wizards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Patapsco St Pk is a really beautiful park. I've done a bit of hiking there myself. I really love the disc golf course @ the McKeldin area too. I was out running the dog in the woods yesterday in shorts and a t and I was sweating like it was summer. Yesterday qualifies as a serious torch. lol Have you spent much time hiking around Gunpowder falls? I want to go there this spring when the water is running high and get some pics. Are there good trails to hike? It's a bit over an hour drive for me so if it's average or below average I'll take a pass. It's funny that you responded to my post because as I was hiking yesterday, I was looking for trees like the one you asked about. The answer in OT was an accurate possibility because I saw several young trees that had been bent over with perpendicular, upright growth from the main stem. I took a few pictures but being in the woods, it was tough to discern one tree from another, so I deleted them before getting home. As far as Gunpowder Falls, I've done some limited kayaking and canoeing there, but not hiking. I'll make it a point to get out there soon and report back to you. If you get a free day one weekend and are interested in exploring it with me, my girlfriend, and a few of our cronies, let me know. It's usually a good time that always ends up in a tavern tossing back a couple. Also, here's a site that you may not know about. If you're a map geek like me, you might want to spend a few bucks and check out a few. http://shopdnr.com/trailguides.aspx By the way, the Burpee catalog came in the mail and the Park's is on the way, so it must be getting close to starting the peppers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 which is worse? this winter...the skins or the wizards? In order, the Skins because it's way over, the Wizards because it should be over, and this winter because it's not over yet. I reserve the right to change the order in 8 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTutton Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 In order, the Skins because it's way over, the Wizards because it should be over, and this winter because it's not over yet. I reserve the right to change the order in 8 weeks. The Caps coming a close fourth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 It's funny that you responded to my post because as I was hiking yesterday, I was looking for trees like the one you asked about. The answer in OT was an accurate possibility because I saw several young trees that had been bent over with perpendicular, upright growth from the main stem. I took a few pictures but being in the woods, it was tough to discern one tree from another, so I deleted them before getting home. As far as Gunpowder Falls, I've done some limited kayaking and canoeing there, but not hiking. I'll make it a point to get out there soon and report back to you. If you get a free day one weekend and are interested in exploring it with me, my girlfriend, and a few of our cronies, let me know. It's usually a good time that always ends up in a tavern tossing back a couple. Also, here's a site that you may not know about. If you're a map geek like me, you might want to spend a few bucks and check out a few. http://shopdnr.com/trailguides.aspx By the way, the Burpee catalog came in the mail and the Park's is on the way, so it must be getting close to starting the peppers! That is really a wild looking tree. I need to take a portait photo so people can see how damn tall the 3 "shoots" are. It's gotta be 50+ years old so if it was going to come down, the last 10 years should have done it. The last decade seems to be a weak tree clearinghouse with the weather we've had around here. New hiking territory + new friends + cold beer = win I always bring the dog with me. He's a rockstar off the leash in the woods. I would think the gp area is tolerant to dogs off the leash. Looks like plenty of room to roam. I had an ok hot pepper harvest last year but my tomatoes fed more squirrels and birds than my family. I just can't seem to get the yeilds I used to since the 2006 season. My greenthumb has become a bit tarnished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relic Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Does anyknow know alot about trees and how a tree can grow like this?? I'm going to post this in OT too because I'm really curious. prob a twin that one lead broke off of early on in its life. then the fallen lead was cut off (notice the wound scar on the lower right...the bulging of the bark where it covered the wound), the break-point wound healed, and suckers grew out of the broken lead. also notice the younger bark on the center and RH lead, lending more to that theory. twins are notoriously weak but healed wounds are very tough sometimes. educated guess, but i'm no pro tree man. edit: or maybe not after looking at it again but thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I blame am19psu for our winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I blame am19psu for our winter Apparently, we can blame him for global warming and the decline in arctic sea ice too among other things..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Its only a matter of time till stratospheric warming saves us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Its only a matter of time till stratospheric warming saves us!! Ah ha! Good idea. Open up the donation portal again and lets buy him a one way ticket to the pole, 45 taco bell burritos, and a case of bic lighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Apparently, we can blame him for global warming and the decline in arctic sea ice too among other things..... well yeah, but mainly our winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Bendy mod has strange superpowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 good god we are grasping at straws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 how dare you not believe in the clipper!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I dare not post this in the main threads.........I have a hunch we do get flooded with pac air again. God I hope I'm wrong but it makes sense. The major teleconnections moved around a bit for the better but not good enough. NAO refuses to go negative and may not the entire winter for all we know. I can't get over the hunch that we regress back to a +ao/nao and crappy pacific again for a while. I'm just a weenie though so no shooting please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I thought I'd head south and banter down here for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I thought I'd head south and banter down here for a change. Welcome, there is not much to banter about in our area unless you like suicide banter . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I thought I'd head south and banter down here for a change. I think a lot of people are bantering elsewhere now-a-days welcome to our subforum, perhaps a little less whiny than yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I thought I'd head south and banter down here for a change. Lol- a little cyber subforum vacation to cleanse the mind from a craptastic winter? At least here your can lower your expectations. Where else can you have a 300 post thread about a 1" event that accumulated in less than one third of the subforum geography? Good times....good times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Lol- a little cyber subforum vacation to cleanse the mind from a craptastic winter? At least here your can lower your expectations. Where else can you have a 300 post thread about a 1" event that accumulated in less than one third of the subforum geography? Good times....good times... Embrace the torch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Embrace the torch! As is there was a choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I think a lot of people are bantering elsewhere now-a-days welcome to our subforum, perhaps a little less whiny than yours I tend to stick to the NNE thread... seldom find much whining in that one and it's nice to have the days developments fit into 1-2 pages instead of 30. Lol- a little cyber subforum vacation to cleanse the mind from a craptastic winter? At least here your can lower your expectations. Where else can you have a 300 post thread about a 1" event that accumulated in less than one third of the subforum geography? Good times....good times... Indeed. Might continue the e-road trip down to the southeast forum tomorrow before heading out west. Welcome, there is not much to banter about in our area unless you like suicide banter . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 You're going to enjoy it in the western region. Wes (usedtobe) has relocated there for the next little bit because they are actually in a pattern of potentially interesting weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I'm probably one of the very few here who is actually enjoying this winter. Seems like we've had more sunny days than usual, and definitely been warmer. It's great being able to go outside and take a walk in just a jacket. As far as I'm concerned, if it's not going to snow, I prefer it be like this. Embrace the torch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I'm probably one of the very few here who is actually enjoying this winter. Seems like we've had more sunny days than usual, and definitely been warmer. It's great being able to go outside and take a walk in just a jacket. As far as I'm concerned, if it's not going to snow, I prefer it be like this. Embrace the torch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Embrace the torch! Yea, I'll embrace the torch with my hands wrapped around it's scrawny little neck and squeze the warm life out of its fiery little body until it glazes over with ice.......muah ha haaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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