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2011 Winter Banter Thread


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I've been wondering about how the increasing daylight and sun angle would affect the easterly QBO. I wonder what Galileo would say.

He might tell you to look at the state of the Sun's N/S pole orientation :P. The QBO seems to follow the constant flux oscillation in the Interplanetary Magnetic Field. My bro brought it up to me and its surprising. We're flipping north right now, and whenever we flip the QBO state is weak and/or mixed. Analogs near past flips are working very well so far.

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easterly QBO

you're the type that will never learn

you mocked me after I said your forecast was too high because I was looking at radars and sat pics and you blew it; next time look out the proverbial window when updating forecasts

wait until the season is over and then say what you want about my statistical theory....to this non-met weenie who has nothing to loose if I'm wrong, remember?

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the sun starts going down later today!!11!

I had this discussion on the Capital Weather Gang forum a week ago. In his column, Camden Walker remarked that last Saturday (December 3) was the earliest sunset in DC, but I noted that it was actually December 8, at least according to http://www.arachnoid.../index_old.html (Click on "World Location Lists", select "DCA", click on "Time/Date/Position", then click "Create Year List.")

Of course, the difference in today's sunset vs yesterday's is only two seconds (4:46:52 vs 4:46:50 EST), and those are forecast sunset times. The actual sunset times may vary up to a minute or two due to atmospheric conditions.

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you're the type that will never learn

you mocked me after I said your forecast was too high because I was looking at radars and sat pics and you blew it; next time look out the proverbial window when updating forecasts

wait until the season is over and then say what you want about my statistical theory....to this non-met weenie who has nothing to loose if I'm wrong, remember?

eastery. QBO.

And you still shouldn't look at the radar to extrapolate 12 hours into the future during a developing snow storm. People did that on Oct. 29 and were dead wrong. I will continue to mock you if you continue to do so.

It doesn't matter whether or not you have anything to lose... just that you're making a forecast/statistical observation. What you have failed to show in your incessant use of the term "easterly QBO" is that you have a true understanding of how it works beyond the basic implications of the signal and what else might have to be in tandem with it in order to create the desired result (blocking and a snowy pattern along the East Coast). If you somehow DO have an adequate knowledge of the QBO, perhaps you could explain why we have a raging +AO with no blocking in sight despite the fact that we are now in a easterly QBO regime at 30mb?

And the only reason why I mock your easterly QBO tirade so much is that you seem to totally dismiss all other synoptic features in favor of it, despite the fact that it's just one small piece of a very large puzzle.

Also, it's lose, not loose (this is the third recent post that you've used it in that I've noticed... and I have you on ignore, so I don't see that many of them!).

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you're the type that will never learn

you mocked me after I said your forecast was too high because I was looking at radars and sat pics and you blew it; next time look out the proverbial window when updating forecasts

wait until the season is over and then say what you want about my statistical theory....to this non-met weenie who has nothing to loose if I'm wrong, remember?

no offense to you but you are one of the biggest weenies before every storm (oct looked like dec 09, always looking for ways the snowiest model is right, etc).. so the "never learn" thing is kinda funny in that regard.

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I had this discussion on the Capital Weather Gang forum a week ago. In his column, Camden Walker remarked that last Saturday (December 3) was the earliest sunset in DC, but I noted that it was actually December 8, at least according to http://www.arachnoid.../index_old.html (Click on "World Location Lists", select "DCA", click on "Time/Date/Position", then click "Create Year List.")

Of course, the difference in today's sunset vs yesterday's is only two seconds (4:46:52 vs 4:46:50 EST), and those are forecast sunset times. The actual sunset times may vary up to a minute or two due to atmospheric conditions.

yeah i saw it. they were wrong on the first instance.. and yeah it's very minor, but in the neverending pursuit of wanting spring to return i will get my kicks where i can. :P

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Who hijacked the ian we've come to know and enjoy? Your constant warminista posts are freaking me out man!

i like winter when it snows.. and that's about all. im not even really a fan of snow on the ground after it's done.. well, the first day or so perhaps.

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i like winter when it snows.. and that's about all. im not even really a fan of snow on the ground after it's done.. well, the first day or so perhaps.

I've mentioned this before but I really am losing my weenie edge. I like to do so many things outdoors that I'm finding myself secretly hoping for a warm winter. So, I'm kinda in your boat. If snow isn't going to be falling from the sky then let it be warm and sunny. Cold dry and windy has lost some of its appeal......

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yeah i saw it. they were wrong on the first instance.. and yeah it's very minor, but in the neverending pursuit of wanting spring to return i will get my kicks where i can. tongue.png

Of course, the other side of the coin is that the latest sunrise in DC is not until about January 5th or 6th. For more information as to why the earliest DC sunset precedes the latest DC sunrise by about four weeks each year, see http://en.wikipedia....quation_of_time

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