snowlover2 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Also a quick hello to: Jbcmh(glad to see you came back) Steve from Newark Buckeye from Westerville Brutus(if he ever came back) JayPSU Sorry if I forgot any of my Amwx friends. Look forward to a snowy and exciting winter. Welcome back and yes hopefully it is snowy for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Card Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Well as those of you who know me knows, I only post in the winter. So for my first official post for the upcoming 2011/2012 winter season I will say this sucks lol. On a serious note, I am kinda surprised by the mild air so far this November. Have yet to view a model yet, but seems the feeling is in favor of a colder December. Might not be the news you want to read and hear... http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/anderson/story/57863/computer-model-forecast-update-for-the-winter.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Also a quick hello to: Jbcmh(glad to see you came back) Steve from Newark Buckeye from Westerville Brutus(if he ever came back) JayPSU Sorry if I forgot any of my Amwx friends. Look forward to a snowy and exciting winter. me! LOL I am looking forward to the winter as well. Hopefully it is a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Well, for the heck of it... I'm not sure I buy these WRFs, although the WRFs ran by NCEP also show well over .25" of liquid from extreme eastern Cuyahoga County points east. I'm still thinking there is an initial burst (likely confined to the eastern lakeshore) as the shortwave moves through while the flow is still westerly between about 2-7pm today, that may deposit around an inch during the afternoon today along the eastern lake shore. The winds will shift WNW behind the shortwave by 7pm, and conditions will be favorable for some moderate lake effect for a few hours after the shortwave passes, and these bands behind the shortwave may deposit another 1-3" over extreme eastern Cuyahoga, Lake, Geauga, and Ashtabula counties. However, I think the window will be too brief for lake effect and that bands will be shifting a little too much to see more than about 3" max over Ohio. We'll see how this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcmh81 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Let's have a bit of Ohio weather trivia since I am bored. 1. What are the top 10 coldest Januarys for Columbus? 2. What year did Toledo have it's biggest snowstorm? 3. How many inches of snow fell in Sydney on May 21, 1883? 4. How many times has Xenia been hit by a tornado? 5. What was the highest 1-minute wind speed average for Cleveland during the Great Lakes Hurricane of November, 1913? 6. At what location was the highest rainfall total recorded during the great flood of March, 1913? 7. How many people were killed during Ohio's worst 19th Century tornado outbreak? 8. How much snow fell the day of the 1950 "Blizzard Bowl" between Michigan and Ohio State? 9. What were the highest wind gusts recorded in Ohio during the 1978 Superbomb? 10. How many days had highs at or above 100 degrees at Hamilton during July, 1936? Try to answer as many as you can without looking them up. I will give the answers later. No takers, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Well, for the heck of it... I'm not sure I buy these WRFs, although the WRFs ran by NCEP also show well over .25" of liquid from extreme eastern Cuyahoga County points east. I'm still thinking there is an initial burst (likely confined to the eastern lakeshore) as the shortwave moves through while the flow is still westerly between about 2-7pm today, that may deposit around an inch during the afternoon today along the eastern lake shore. The winds will shift WNW behind the shortwave by 7pm, and conditions will be favorable for some moderate lake effect for a few hours after the shortwave passes, and these bands behind the shortwave may deposit another 1-3" over extreme eastern Cuyahoga, Lake, Geauga, and Ashtabula counties. However, I think the window will be too brief for lake effect and that bands will be shifting a little too much to see more than about 3" max over Ohio. We'll see how this plays out. I've been traveling so I haven't paid much attention to this... but it certainly looks like the potential is there for a few inches. Shame the window is so short. Hopefully these transient cold shots aren't a theme for the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I've been traveling so I haven't paid much attention to this... but it certainly looks like the potential is there for a few inches. Shame the window is so short. Hopefully these transient cold shots aren't a theme for the winter. It will probably get intense for a few hours, but then starting winding down just as it gets started. It's November, so any snow is a bonus. But ya, hope the pattern changes in a couple weeks or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 It's a battle of the WRF's at 12z... ARW: NMM: Both support light accumulations in the snow belt, although the ARW would support a few inches in the secondary snow belt as well over southern Cuyahoga county, northern Medina and northern Summit counties points east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Might not be the news you want to read and hear... http://www.accuweath...-the-winter.asp Yeah, the EURO blowtorches us all winter. I guess I can grudgingly accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 It's a battle of the WRF's at 12z... Both support light accumulations in the snow belt, although the ARW would support a few inches in the secondary snow belt as well over southern Cuyahoga county, northern Medina and northern Summit counties points east. I'm hoping to double my seasonal snowfall total overnight. I give it a 20% shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I'm hoping to double my seasonal snowfall total overnight. I give it a 20% shot. Ya, the wind direction will favor decent banding for a time, but the wind will also be rather strong which may favor areas inland (if banding develops, which I think it will for a few hours)...and the lake is still 50 degrees give or take. It does only take one nice squall to double 0.2" though. I'd give it a 30% chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 “This is a very mild November pattern. While the next cold front will once again bring modified Pacific air, there just isn't any significantly cold arctic air in the Midwest or East the next 2 weeks. A mild Thanksgiving looks to be in store for Northeast Ohio.” Hmmm... Going down in flames I think. Just checked, and @ 2:45 pm standing at 30 degrees with light snow here in south central MI. If this is "modified Pacific air", we won't need pure arctic air to make the winter fun! PS - I also think the entire atmosphere is ready to "cave in" with cold from the top down. Not to the extreme shown in "The Day After Tomorrow"; but in a realistic way, suddenly we will wake up one day and say "What happened to the mild autumn everybody thought would never end????". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Let's have a bit of Ohio weather trivia since I am bored. 1. What are the top 10 coldest Januarys for Columbus? 2. What year did Toledo have it's biggest snowstorm? 3. How many inches of snow fell in Sydney on May 21, 1883? 4. How many times has Xenia been hit by a tornado? 5. What was the highest 1-minute wind speed average for Cleveland during the Great Lakes Hurricane of November, 1913? 6. At what location was the highest rainfall total recorded during the great flood of March, 1913? 7. How many people were killed during Ohio's worst 19th Century tornado outbreak? 8. How much snow fell the day of the 1950 "Blizzard Bowl" between Michigan and Ohio State? 9. What were the highest wind gusts recorded in Ohio during the 1978 Superbomb? 10. How many days had highs at or above 100 degrees at Hamilton during July, 1936? Try to answer as many as you can without looking them up. I will give the answers later. Nice distraction from work. Thanks Jb. 1. No idea 2. 1974 3. 21 4. 5 5. 81mph 6. Dayton 7. 127 8. 15 inches 9. 79 mph 10. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Occasional 40-45 dBZ echoes showing up over Lake, northern Geauga and Ashtabula counties, so I'm sure things are really coming down under those snow squalls. Banding shifting south very slowly, nothing here yet. Looks like the primary belt gets hit the hardest and areas farther south/west (Cuyahoga, northern Summit, northern Portage) see some snow later (an inch or so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Occasional 40-45 dBZ echoes showing up over Lake, northern Geauga and Ashtabula counties, so I'm sure things are really coming down under those snow squalls. Banding shifting south very slowly, nothing here yet. Looks like the primary belt gets hit the hardest and areas farther south/west (Cuyahoga, northern Summit, northern Portage) see some snow later (an inch or so). It's snowing here at the lakeshore. You have to put on composite reflectivity, otherwise it's not showing up. Coating on the car, but doubt it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Ahh, nothing like snow and 46 mph winds. It's really whipping out there. If only it could last a bit longer... KBKL 172318Z 28025G38KT 1 3/4SM -SN SCT026 BKN037 OVC060 01/M02 A3013 RMK AO2 PK WND 27039/2302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 271 between the 480 split and 322 is not salted and icy. There was an accident just south of Harvard going south, numerous cars and the road for now is completely blocked there. Another southbound accident just south of 322, several fire trucks on scene. Saw a light dusting in Solon, about half an inch at the Walmart in Mayfield Heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Had the first snow here today. Was only brief maybe 2 minutes, but still finally seen some flakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcmh81 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Nice distraction from work. Thanks Jb. 1. No idea 2. 1974 3. 21 4. 5 5. 81mph 6. Dayton 7. 127 8. 15 inches 9. 79 mph 10. 15 1. What are the top 10 coldest Januarys for Columbus? 1. 1977 2. 1918 3. 1940 4. 1893 5. 1978 6. 1912 7. 1884 8. 1970 9. 1982 10. 1994 2. What year did Toledo have it's biggest snowstorm? February 28-March 1, 1900. Toledo received 22". 3. How many inches of snow fell in Sydney on May 21, 1883? Between 15 and 20". 4. How many times has Xenia been hit by a tornado? 4 for sure. 1933, 1974, 1989, and 2000. There was another reported in the area in 1886, but it's never been confirmed. 5. What was the highest 1-minute wind speed average for Cleveland during the Great Lakes Hurricane of November, 1913? 79mph. The wind speed averaged 49mph for more than 16 hours. 6. At what location was the highest rainfall total recorded during the great flood of March, 1913? Bellefontaine, in Logan County. The city recorded 11.16" over the 4-day period. 7. How many people were killed during Ohio's worst 19th Century tornado outbreak? 17 on May 14, 1886, the same day that the Xenia area had conflicting reports of a 5th hit. However, even if no tornado occured, Xenia was hit by a large flash flood that killed 28 people. 8. How much snow fell the day of the 1950 "Blizzard Bowl" between Michigan and Ohio State? 7.5" 9. What were the highest wind gusts recorded in Ohio during the 1978 Superbomb? 111mph. 10. How many days had highs at or above 100 degrees at Hamilton during July, 1936? 11. Should I ask anymore? Not many takers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannie Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Does anyone have any thoughts on Louisville ky? Will we maybe actually see snow this winter!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Ahh, nothing like snow and 46 mph winds. It's really whipping out there. If only it could last a bit longer... KBKL 172318Z 28025G38KT 1 3/4SM -SN SCT026 BKN037 OVC060 01/M02 A3013 RMK AO2 PK WND 27039/2302 Picked up .5 last night. Very little melting with the cold temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Picked up .5 last night. Very little melting with the cold temps. There were even a few dusting left in the shade downtown this morning. Im hoping for a front loaded winter this year. There's nothing worse than going through a brutally cold and snowless winter, followed by a snowy March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 There were even a few dusting left in the shade downtown this morning. Im hoping for a front loaded winter this year. There's nothing worse than going through a brutally cold and snowless winter, followed by a snowy March. A front loaded winter would be nice. Long range doesn't look promising though... but that can always change so I'm not overly concerned. Be nice if the lake temps stay "warm" until the extended cold air arrives. The wind direction was perfect last night.... too bad the lake shut down so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 CLE's snow reports map/page shows that parts of Ashtabula county saw 2-3", with some portions of Erie county seeing locally 5" yesterday into the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Both the Euro and GFS have a low pressure riding through Eastern Ohio into Western PA and then into Upstate NY for Tues/Weds. Of course, pretty good track for snowfall here, but just no cold air to work with. We should be able to inch closer to the 60" rainfall mark though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlogin Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 CLE's snow reports map/page shows that parts of Ashtabula county saw 2-3", with some portions of Erie county seeing locally 5" yesterday into the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I woke up this morning to a forecast of sunshine and 55. It's been cloudy all afternoon and now it's pouring! What gives? None of the models really picked up on this rain moving through Ohio today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 For those who haven't lurked into the "eurotrash" thread, the first "real" snowstorm threat is now there for someone in the midwest the end of this weekend (Sunday/Monday). FWIW, The latest Euro has a snowstorm for almost the entire state of Ohio. Would probably be a 6-12" event for a lot of people. It's hour 180, so lock it in folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carumba Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 For those who haven't lurked into the "eurotrash" thread, the first "real" snowstorm threat is now there for someone in the midwest the end of this weekend (Sunday/Monday). FWIW, The latest Euro has a snowstorm for almost the entire state of Ohio. Would probably be a 6-12" event for a lot of people. It's hour 180, so lock it in folks! May it come to pass or not but one thing I know about the snowbelt of NE Ohio: we will get snow and plenty of it. It's really a question of more like 80" or more like 150"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 For those who haven't lurked into the "eurotrash" thread, the first "real" snowstorm threat is now there for someone in the midwest the end of this weekend (Sunday/Monday). FWIW, The latest Euro has a snowstorm for almost the entire state of Ohio. Would probably be a 6-12" event for a lot of people. It's hour 180, so lock it in folks! What are you basing your statements on because I'm not reading anybody else saying this would be a winter event (let alone significant as 6-12) for almost the entire state of OH? Seems most maps have shown this going too far west and/or dragging too much warm air north?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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