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About 2-3" fell last night. Wind is blowing pretty good so measuring will be challenging. Looking at the radar, it appears we'll see "blob" type lake enhanced snow over the inland areas. NNW winds should spread the wealth around.

With northerly winds gusting to 35 mph, there's no way anything stays here. I measured 1.6" in a protected backyard with fences and shrubbery, but the front yard is swept bare to the grass.

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Huron connection beginning develop. And judging from upstream obs in Michigan, areas outside of the immediate lakeshore will do great. I'm looking forward to driving maybe a mile or two down the street and seeing how the accumulation changes.

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Huron connection beginning develop. And judging from upstream obs in Michigan, areas outside of the immediate lakeshore will do great. I'm looking forward to driving maybe a mile or two down the street and seeing how the accumulation changes.

Snow has been ripping the past 2 hours. I'm guessing somewhere between 3-6" has fallen... but the winds are making it impossible to measure. Looks like the Huron connected band is right over the near west side so even the lakeshore should be getting hit.

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Snow has been ripping the past 2 hours. I'm guessing somewhere between 3-6" has fallen... but the winds are making it impossible to measure. Looks like the Huron connected band is right over the near west side so even the lakeshore should be getting hit.

Yeah. That lake band is sitting over me now. Just moderate snow. The winds are incredible, walked down to the lake and the waves are huge. You can literally feel it warm up once you walk down the beach cliff.

Probably closer to 3" now. So this is playing out as expected.

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11 08:53 N 32 G 41 0.25 Heavy Snow and Windy VV013 23 18 81% 29.91 1013.5

When you have obs like that, it's no longer even enjoyable. The snow just blows around instantly into the typical drifted areas.

What I wouldn't give to just have one typical widespread system 6-8" snow with 10 mph winds!

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Tough to measure... but I'm guessing around 6" now give or take. The east side suburbs are in a lull right now. Hopefully there will be some redevelopment or the band through downtown pushes east. There are going to be some decent totals in Geauga as they rarely get a break from the snow in the higher elevations.

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I'm sure Cuyahoga County will be added to the mix (along with the second tier for the extreme north) in the morning once half the snow has already fallen. I just don't think they want to jump the gun for an event that won't hamper people's Friday night plans and doesn't start until the overnight hours.

Per the early morning AFD CLE is continuing with the "moderate approach" of not issuing headlines for snow west of the traditional Snow Belt in a non-tradition NNW flow set up until the event is half over. Perhaps I'm missing something though.

As expected. The funny thing is that last night I was driving and when the DJ read the weather report he said, "1-3" tonight and 3-5" tomorrow morning, but the good news is that no winter advisories are out for this, despite those forecasted amounts, so that's probably a good sign"

Just found it kind of funny how media will ad lib a forecast given to them and by the time the public gets it, it's already been twisted around.

As I posted in the arctic front thread with a few pictures, this was borderline Blizzard criteria at both CLE and BKL. CLE just needed one hours worth of wind 3 mph stronger, and BKL just needed one hour of visibility at 0.25 instead of 0.5. Both airports had at least 3 hours of blizzard criteria but just not consecutively.

Good luck even measuring this because you can't measure snowfall when you have 9 hours of 30+mph winds.

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CLE obs for good measure...

1 14:51 NW 24 G 33 0.25 Snow Freezing Fog Blowing Snow and Breezy BKN015 OVC022 19 14 81% 2 30.06 1018.9 11 13:51 NW 18 G 35 0.25 Snow Freezing Fog Blowing Snow BKN016 BKN022 OVC031 19 14 81% 4 30.04 1018.2 11 12:51 NW 22 G 32 0.25 Snow Freezing Fog Blowing Snow and Breezy VV014 19 15 22 19 84% 2 30.03 1017.9 0.01 0.06 11 11:51 NW 25 G 36 0.25 Heavy Snow Freezing Fog Blowing Snow and Breezy VV011 19 15 84% 1 30.03 1017.7 0.01 11 10:51 NW 25 G 38 0.50 Snow Freezing Fog Blowing Snow and Breezy OVC017 20 15 81% 3 30.00 1016.9 11 09:51 NW 24 G 32 0.25 Heavy Snow Freezing Fog Blowing Snow and Breezy VV012 20 16 85% 3 29.97 1015.9 0.01 0.04 11 08:51 NW 20 G 31 0.25 Heavy Snow Freezing Fog VV009 21 17 85% 6 29.95 1015.1 0.01 11 07:51 NW 22 G 28 0.25 Snow Freezing Fog and Breezy VV010 21 17 85% 5 29.91 1013.9 0.02

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Place your bet on what CLE reports today. Over/under is 4". The airport has shared in some of the heaviest snows today. I think they reported SN+ for 4 or 5 straight hours with low visibility.

My guess is under with 3.5"

I bet they go over. They had 2" at the 7 am observation, but with the winds I'm sure the observer will just mark down something arbitrary. Actually, that might help boost totals because they might just guess based on observations.

I'll say 4.6", but I won't be surprised with whatever number gets marked down.

The band through downtown was quite intense. I would have liked a repeat of this without the wind, it probably would have been a widespread 8-12" of super fluff had the snow been able to calmly fall.

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Place your bet on what CLE reports today. Over/under is 4". The airport has shared in some of the heaviest snows today. I think they reported SN+ for 4 or 5 straight hours with low visibility.

My guess is under with 3.5"

You "win" ... guess I'm not too surprised they only picked up 3.1", of which only 1.1" fell after 7 am :lol: . They sat under a lake effect band with 0.25 mile visibilities for almost 5 hours. CAK even had 2.9" ... definitely a head scratcher. If YNG ever had the OBS that CLE had today, you can bet they'd have recorded 17.5" :whistle:

It was probably so windy no snow sat on the snow board. I could see CLE having to manually change that number later though. Perhaps that's 3.1" on top of the 2" at the 7 am observation.

In any event, it's not even a picturesque snow.

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You "win" ... guess I'm not too surprised they only picked up 3.1", of which only 1.1" fell after 7 am :lol: . They sat under a lake effect band with 0.25 mile visibilities for almost 5 hours. CAK even had 2.9" ... definitely a head scratcher. If YNG ever had the OBS that CLE had today, you can bet they'd have recorded 17.5" :whistle:

It was probably so windy no snow sat on the snow board. I could see CLE having to manually change that number later though. Perhaps that's 3.1" on top of the 2" at the 7 am observation.

In any event, it's not even a picturesque snow.

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The obs at both CLE and BKL (especially CLE) were very impressive today. The snow was blinding at times in open areas on my way to work (vis less than 100 feet in a couple of instances) and where snow was able to blow, roads were covered in a few inches of snow. Although the totals aren't mind boggling, the hours of heavy snow combined with very cold temps and gusty winds make this (IMO) the best storm of the winter for the Cleveland area. The Lake County band a few weeks back is probably the most impressive event thus far but was very localized.

Based on obs my guess is that 3.1" fell on top of the 2.0" at 7am...the daily snow as reported currently is not the amount that actually fell.

I'm glad CLE did make the proper call and eventually go with a winter storm warning for the secondary Snow Belt, but what in the heck took so long for that call to be made, we may never know. I have a feeling the lack of headlines until this morning threw some people off, as your post about the radio DJ illustraits.

As moisture increases overnight and winds become more WNW we may see an attempt at a convergence band overnight...if an organized band occurs I could see some areas seeing an additional 3-5" through tomorrow morning, otherwise amounts will be light.

I'm going with 6.0" thus far as my preliminary storm total through 7pm based on multiple measurements, although my guess is anywhere between 5" and 7" may have reasonably fallen. Will review spotter reports when I get off after midnight (I get to go to my other job now) and decide if this 6" seems valid before adding it to my seasonal total.

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You "win" ... guess I'm not too surprised they only picked up 3.1", of which only 1.1" fell after 7 am :lol: . They sat under a lake effect band with 0.25 mile visibilities for almost 5 hours. CAK even had 2.9" ... definitely a head scratcher. If YNG ever had the OBS that CLE had today, you can bet they'd have recorded 17.5" :whistle:

It was probably so windy no snow sat on the snow board. I could see CLE having to manually change that number later though. Perhaps that's 3.1" on top of the 2" at the 7 am observation.

In any event, it's not even a picturesque snow.

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Wow... my guess was a complete joke. That is impossible considering the obs... but it is what is at CLE.

While the totals were not impressive, the winds made this the best LES event of the season IMBY.

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Wow... my guess was a complete joke. That is impossible considering the obs... but it is what is at CLE.

While the totals were not impressive, the winds made this the best LES event of the season IMBY.

I drove down to Sagamore Hills on Sunday morning to check out how much fell. I measured 8" in spots, with maybe 5 or 6" in the national park near by. It was just fluff. The sun will hack off a bit today and the rain should bring bare grounds to most by Thursday.

The event was impressive for the winds, but not much along the lake. I was sandwiched in between the band downtown and the one near the airport, but I still got 3" which makes the CLE total worthless.

The fantasy storms have mostly disappeared but looks like several 1-2" events are possible on the horizon.

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I drove down to Sagamore Hills on Sunday morning to check out how much fell. I measured 8" in spots, with maybe 5 or 6" in the national park near by. It was just fluff. The sun will hack off a bit today and the rain should bring bare grounds to most by Thursday.

The event was impressive for the winds, but not much along the lake. I was sandwiched in between the band downtown and the one near the airport, but I still got 3" which makes the CLE total worthless.

The fantasy storms have mostly disappeared but looks like several 1-2" events are possible on the horizon.

I measured 9" in Russell yesterday afternoon. I saw a report of 12" OTG in Chagrin Falls. There wasn't near that much when I got to the office this morning.

Probably the most impressive thing about the LES event is that it happened in mid-February. Even in the warmest of years ice limits LES this time of year. Not this year though. I'm sure some ice formed over the weekend however.

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The western basin might have some slush, but definitely not around here. I can see that strip of ice off in the distance that shows up nicely in the visible satellite. That's about it for here. I don't think we see much more ice production this week though.

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About the same here with an inch. Very nice snowfall. It really puts into perspective how "much" snow can fall without wind. The radar returns have been anything but impressive, but without strong wind to rip apart the flake structure, it's not too hard to pick up an inch.

Rain should wipe the slate clean by Friday, save for the highest elevations.

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I really enjoyed the unexpected sunshine this afternoon in Chagrin Falls. I was beginning to get blue with all the clouds the last few days; most of the forecasts today weren't optimistic, but since 1 p.m. it has been mostly sunny. Only 2" of snow on the ground as of this afternoon! Hopefully we'll get more sunshine on Friday (can you tell I like warm weather?).

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I really enjoyed the unexpected sunshine this afternoon in Chagrin Falls. I was beginning to get blue with all the clouds the last few days; most of the forecasts today weren't optimistic, but since 1 p.m. it has been mostly sunny. Only 2" of snow on the ground as of this afternoon! Hopefully we'll get more sunshine on Friday (can you tell I like warm weather?).

Yeah, that sunshine felt great yesterday afternoon, even if it was only short lived.

Good bye snow! Though it does look like there are still patches on the ground in the snow belt, but doubtful any place can really claim true snow cover anymore.

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