dta1984 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 There's about 0.2" in Parma. Not sure if airport will make it to an inch. I bet the east side gets close to 3" with enhancement. Figures , the weekend I go out of town we get our best snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 There's about 0.2" in Parma. Not sure if airport will make it to an inch. I bet the east side gets close to 3" with enhancement. over 2" here already. moderate snow continues. edit... i estimated wrong. measured 3 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I really don't have an explanation for why I feel this way, but the last 4 days I've been extremely optimistic for next week's chances overall. I really haven't felt so optimistic in a long, long time (not even last winter). Something just feels right about this week ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carumba Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The triumph of hope over reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Holy @#$! Up to 3.5" with this lake enhanced band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Haha nice guys !! I just checked the forecast and cle is still only calling for less than an inch ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Well, I'll be back next year. The triumph of hope over reason. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernohio Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The lake has enhanced this nicely, echo Trent on the snowfall here just west of CLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernohio Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Is it just me, or does it always seem that when KCLE forecasts almost nothing we get the most snow? I'm loving this surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Nice meso low pushing into Geauga Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Well, I'll be back next year. Epic failure of a month. Somebody's just gotta put a bullet in the head of Dec 2011. 1999-00 started to turn around somewhat by about the 10th of January that winter, IIRC. I hope something similar is in store for this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Right at 4" now but the snow has stopped. Interesting snow pattern to say the least. Gotta love CLE... this isn't October. I'm sure the plows are loving this... NICE LITTLE SHORT WAVE SLIDING ACROSS THE MIDWEST ALONG WITH A WEAK BACK DOOR TYPE FRONT LURKING NEAR THE SOUTH SHORE OF LAKE ERIE. THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO SYSTEMS WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE LIGHT SNOW...A LITTLE CHRISTMAS SHOPPING SNOW! THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE SHORT WAVE WILL HEAD TOWARD THE MID/UPPER OHIO VALLEY BUT WITH THE NORTH WIND OFF LAKE ERIE THE SNOW PATTERN WILL ALSO BLOSSOM ACROSS THE SNOW BELT DURING THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON... BUT AGAIN...MOST OF THE SNOW WILL BE LIGHT. I EXPECT MOST OF WHAT ACCUMULATES (LESS THAN AN INCH) WILL BE ON GRASSY SURFACES AND VEHICLES ETC BUT A LITTLE SLUSH CANNOT BE RULED OUT ON THE PAVEMENT ESPECIALLY WHERE IT IS STILL SNOWING AFTER SUNSET... MAINLY NE OH/NW PA. AFTER SUNSET THERE IS MORE POTENTIAL FOR SLUSH AND ICE ON THE ROADS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Right at 4" now but the snow has stopped. Interesting snow pattern to say the least. Gotta love CLE... this isn't October. I'm sure the plows are loving this... NICE LITTLE SHORT WAVE SLIDING ACROSS THE MIDWEST ALONG WITH A WEAK BACK DOOR TYPE FRONT LURKING NEAR THE SOUTH SHORE OF LAKE ERIE. THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO SYSTEMS WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE LIGHT SNOW...A LITTLE CHRISTMAS SHOPPING SNOW! THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE SHORT WAVE WILL HEAD TOWARD THE MID/UPPER OHIO VALLEY BUT WITH THE NORTH WIND OFF LAKE ERIE THE SNOW PATTERN WILL ALSO BLOSSOM ACROSS THE SNOW BELT DURING THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON... BUT AGAIN...MOST OF THE SNOW WILL BE LIGHT. I EXPECT MOST OF WHAT ACCUMULATES (LESS THAN AN INCH) WILL BE ON GRASSY SURFACES AND VEHICLES ETC BUT A LITTLE SLUSH CANNOT BE RULED OUT ON THE PAVEMENT ESPECIALLY WHERE IT IS STILL SNOWING AFTER SUNSET... MAINLY NE OH/NW PA. AFTER SUNSET THERE IS MORE POTENTIAL FOR SLUSH AND ICE ON THE ROADS. What are they thinking? They can't even nowcast. Just took this picture a few mins ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carumba Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Right at 4" now but the snow has stopped. Interesting snow pattern to say the least. Gotta love CLE... this isn't October. I'm sure the plows are loving this... NICE LITTLE SHORT WAVE SLIDING ACROSS THE MIDWEST ALONG WITH A WEAK BACK DOOR TYPE FRONT LURKING NEAR THE SOUTH SHORE OF LAKE ERIE. THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO SYSTEMS WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE LIGHT SNOW...A LITTLE CHRISTMAS SHOPPING SNOW! THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE SHORT WAVE WILL HEAD TOWARD THE MID/UPPER OHIO VALLEY BUT WITH THE NORTH WIND OFF LAKE ERIE THE SNOW PATTERN WILL ALSO BLOSSOM ACROSS THE SNOW BELT DURING THE LATE MORNING AND AFTERNOON... BUT AGAIN...MOST OF THE SNOW WILL BE LIGHT. I EXPECT MOST OF WHAT ACCUMULATES (LESS THAN AN INCH) WILL BE ON GRASSY SURFACES AND VEHICLES ETC BUT A LITTLE SLUSH CANNOT BE RULED OUT ON THE PAVEMENT ESPECIALLY WHERE IT IS STILL SNOWING AFTER SUNSET... MAINLY NE OH/NW PA. AFTER SUNSET THERE IS MORE POTENTIAL FOR SLUSH AND ICE ON THE ROADS. They just put out a short term forecast stamped 2:19PM and it's still wrong. Don't they have spotters out in this neck of the woods? .NOW... LIGHT SNOW WILL CONTINUE OVER THE AREA THROUGH 4PM. THE HEAVIEST SNOW WILL BE EAST OF A LORAIN TO MANSFIELD TO MOUNT VERNON LINE. ANOTHER AREA OF HEAVIEST SNOW WILL BE FROM ALONG AND NORTH OF OHIO TURNPIKE FROM CLEVELAND TO AROUND YOUNGSTOWN. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS THROUGH 4PM WILL BE AROUND A HALF AN INCH OR LESS. ROADWAYS AND SIDEWALKS THAT ARE UNTREATED CAN BECOME SNOW COVERED AND SLIPPERY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Epic failure of a month. Somebody's just gotta put a bullet in the head of Dec 2011. 1999-00 started to turn around somewhat by about the 10th of January that winter, IIRC. I hope something similar is in store for this winter. At least part of Northern Ohio got some action today... Lorain through Avon Lake have been sitting under enhancement for a while now... already 3-4" at Avon Lake. CLE is getting some good snows now too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 They just put out a short term forecast stamped 2:19PM and it's still wrong. Don't they have spotters out in this neck of the woods? .NOW... LIGHT SNOW WILL CONTINUE OVER THE AREA THROUGH 4PM. THE HEAVIEST SNOW WILL BE EAST OF A LORAIN TO MANSFIELD TO MOUNT VERNON LINE. ANOTHER AREA OF HEAVIEST SNOW WILL BE FROM ALONG AND NORTH OF OHIO TURNPIKE FROM CLEVELAND TO AROUND YOUNGSTOWN. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS THROUGH 4PM WILL BE AROUND A HALF AN INCH OR LESS. ROADWAYS AND SIDEWALKS THAT ARE UNTREATED CAN BECOME SNOW COVERED AND SLIPPERY. Here's the gem from the latest discussion: THERE HAS BEEN A CONVERGENT ZONE BETWEEN THE NORTH FLOW OFF THE LAKE AND THE LIGHT SOUTHWEST SYNOPTIC FLOW FROM ABOUT LORAIN COUNTY AND CLEVELAND OVER TO WARREN (TRUMBULL COUNTY) WHERE THE SNOW HAS BEEN ENHANCED OTHERWISE SNOW AMOUNTS WILL END UP AROUND AN INCH OR LESS WITH UP TO SEVERAL INCHES IN THE ENHANCED AREA. They must not have windows. This is a decent band of snow effecting at least a million people with 3+" of snow, yet barely a mention in the forecast. I just don't get it, especially considering the rationale for advisories last weekend that were never warranted but continued for almost 18 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 About to drive from Kirtland to Reminderville. 3" up here, quarter mile visibility right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Congrats to the ARW WRF for nailing this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Here's the gem from the latest discussion: THERE HAS BEEN A CONVERGENT ZONE BETWEEN THE NORTH FLOW OFF THE LAKE AND THE LIGHT SOUTHWEST SYNOPTIC FLOW FROM ABOUT LORAIN COUNTY AND CLEVELAND OVER TO WARREN (TRUMBULL COUNTY) WHERE THE SNOW HAS BEEN ENHANCED OTHERWISE SNOW AMOUNTS WILL END UP AROUND AN INCH OR LESS WITH UP TO SEVERAL INCHES IN THE ENHANCED AREA. They must not have windows. This is a decent band of snow effecting at least a million people with 3+" of snow, yet barely a mention in the forecast. I just don't get it, especially considering the rationale for advisories last weekend that were never warranted but continued for almost 18 hours. The convergence zone was there earlier this morning... say 11am or so when this area picked up most of our snow. I had a couple more good bursts of snow this afternoon. Total is now 4.5". Still snowing lightly but the radar looks to be quieting down. The funny part is that CLE obs have been reporting SN Freezing Fog for four hours. You're right... a quick look out of the window would have been a good idea. It will be interesting to see what CLE reports... do they report 1" as forecasted or reality? I hate to be down on CLE but c'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 At least part of Northern Ohio got some action today... Lorain through Avon Lake have been sitting under enhancement for a while now... already 3-4" at Avon Lake. CLE is getting some good snows now too It was nice to see the snow today. Still hoping for a spread the wealth type storm. Might have to wait until Feb at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Here's the gem from the latest discussion: THERE HAS BEEN A CONVERGENT ZONE BETWEEN THE NORTH FLOW OFF THE LAKE AND THE LIGHT SOUTHWEST SYNOPTIC FLOW FROM ABOUT LORAIN COUNTY AND CLEVELAND OVER TO WARREN (TRUMBULL COUNTY) WHERE THE SNOW HAS BEEN ENHANCED OTHERWISE SNOW AMOUNTS WILL END UP AROUND AN INCH OR LESS WITH UP TO SEVERAL INCHES IN THE ENHANCED AREA. They must not have windows. This is a decent band of snow effecting at least a million people with 3+" of snow, yet barely a mention in the forecast. I just don't get it, especially considering the rationale for advisories last weekend that were never warranted but continued for almost 18 hours. MY dad is heading towards Cleveland and just called me and said that the roads are in horrible conditions on I90, and the location that he was at had at least 4" of snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The convergence zone was there earlier this morning... say 11am or so when this area picked up most of our snow. I had a couple more good bursts of snow this afternoon. Total is now 4.5". Still snowing lightly but the radar looks to be quieting down. The funny part is that CLE obs have been reporting SN Freezing Fog for four hours. You're right... a quick look out of the window would have been a good idea. It will be interesting to see what CLE reports... do they report 1" as forecasted or reality? I hate to be down on CLE but c'mon. CLE has picked up 0.31" liquid equivalent so even assuming a straight 10:1 ratio they'd be over 3". As of 10 mins ago they are still reporting Heavy Snow. I'd assume they will end up with 4" by midnight. A lot of folks got caught off guard today, that's for sure. I really hate to critique, but I find it amusing how they will agonize over whether interior Crawford and Ashtabula counties will see an inch of snow, or leave advisories up for Geauga County for 2-5" over a 24 hr period, but when it's actually occurring over the City and Suburbs it's not worth mentioning. But, I'm done complaining about the lack of snow now. A nice early Christmas treat and it's really picturesque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedskater Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 At 5PM I measured 3 &3/4 inches of snow and maybe another inch that melted. (We are about 2 miles West of Trent). The temperature is only just now dropping below freezing and no real wind. Once again Jeff Tanchakat Chan. 19 & 43 was the only TV forecaster to call it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The CLE climate summary shows 2.5" from 0.22, so that was taken a few hours ago, with a 11:1 ratio. Considering it's still snowing and 0.31" was reported as the daily total through 5 pm, the airport should eclipse 4" which appears to the widespread magic number of the metro area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 At 5PM I measured 3 &3/4 inches of snow and maybe another inch that melted. (We are about 2 miles West of Trent). The temperature is only just now dropping below freezing and no real wind. Once again Jeff Tanchakat Chan. 19 & 43 was the only TV forecaster to call it correctly. Yep, about the same here. I measured 3.7" at 4 o'clock, and it's been spitting a bit here or there since. The models were hinting at another brief flare up later this evening, so it's possible we could climb towards 5 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Haha. Seriously you can't make this stuff up, the just issued forecast for Cleveland tonight: Tonight: A chance of flurries. Cloudy, with a low around 30. West wind between 6 and 10 mph. Sunday: A slight chance of flurries before 9am. Partly sunny, with a high near 38. West wind between 9 and 11 mph. Latest OB from CLE: 2011/12/17 21:51 KCLE 172151Z 00000KT 1/4SM +SN FZFG BKN007 OVC016 M02/M02 A3024 RMK AO2 SLP250 SNINCR 1/4 P0003 T10171022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 KCLE is under a pretty good band right now... probably will hit 5" at that rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 That's what's nice about you guys living near the lakeshore (south and east of it). If all else fails synoptically, you still have lake effect snow to fall back on. Can't say the same for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Absolutely dumping, 5.2" here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernohio Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 KCLE really screwed this one up, we are at 4.5+ inches right now, and Id venture to guess a little has melted so that total might be a tad low. Mine as well just listen to everyone on here instead of reading KCLE discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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