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Go Time - First Winter Storm Threat for New England 2011/12


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I'm about 50/50 on measurable for here...maybe slightly more. Only takes 0.1" for measurable. I'd feel a lot better up where Socks is though up in Rindge, NH. I'm def impressed at how quickly things cool as the storm is trying to exit stage right...the vortmax track argues for good moisture hanging back in the cold sector, so there's def some potential. Even the CP could flip over for a time if it pans out right. The timing does look pretty good.

would you extend that feeling from Rindge over to me, Brian, Eric and Jeff?

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the potential snow event on thursday night reminds me of another event in late october (possibly oct 23, 2002) .. cold rain flipped over to snow between 6 am and 7 am imby and continued until ~9 am. I think most of the interrior flipped over that morning, resulting in 1"-2" (maybe 3" loli in higher terrain?) for a lot of the area .. although comparing synoptics of the prior event to this one show a lot of differences a similiar outcome may be possible

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Those euro snow algorithms look weenie-ish to me.

I wish I could see the "algorithms" - If we are just talking partial thickness....yeah, agreed - anomalous llv thickness times well with open wave.. But what about unfrozen earth with over-abundant moisture content... That should infuse a "non-stick" clause one would think

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the potential snow event on thursday night reminds me of another event in late october (possibly oct 23, 2002) .. cold rain flipped over to snow between 6 am and 7 am imby and continued until ~9 am. I think most of the interrior flipped over that morning, resulting in 1"-2" (maybe 3" loli in higher terrain?) for a lot of the area .. although comparing synoptics of the prior event to this one show a lot of differences a similiar outcome may be possible

10/23/02...yeah most of our area saw 1-2" with 3"+ above about 900 feet. The event wasn't as juicy or large scale, but it was semi-similar...it had a little anafrontal vortmax track over or us.

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the potential snow event on thursday night reminds me of another event in late october (possibly oct 23, 2002) .. cold rain flipped over to snow between 6 am and 7 am imby and continued until ~9 am. I think most of the interrior flipped over that morning, resulting in 1"-2" (maybe 3" loli in higher terrain?) for a lot of the area .. although comparing synoptics of the prior event to this one show a lot of differences a similiar outcome may be possible

Having it fall on the overnight hours would help the accumalations some with marginal snowfall rates, This stuff will be like cement this early

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With each model run the "threat" is increasing, but far from a "lock". North & West counties have best shot of seeing snow...which is a bonus considering it still is October.

Way too early to speculate on accumulations...but that's my two cents.

That first sentence goes with any storm we track lol

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I wish I could see the "algorithms" - If we are just talking partial thickness....yeah, agreed - anomalous llv thickness times well with open wave.. But what about unfrozen earth with over-abundant moisture content... That should infuse a "non-stick" clause one would think

It's on the Wunderground site.

John, don't tell me you don't know about this site!

http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?zoom=4&rad=0&wxsn=0&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=1&mm.mdl=GFS&mm.type=SURPRE&mm.hour=0&mm.opa=100&mm.clk=0&hur=0&fire=0&tor=0&ndfd=0&pix=0&dir=0&ads=0&tfk=0&fodors=0&ski=0&ls=0&rad2=0

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I'd feel better for that region...though if you get too far north, you might be out of the good precip in the first storm...if the current track holds close.

Thank you. At least for Eric, Brian and I we would benefit from hangback moisture perhaps more than Nate. Great to be tracking this early. I like October storms better than April, unless it is an April blizzard. By April I'm not excited about 3-6 but in Oct it's awesome. Haven't seen anything beyond an inch in October since something in Delaware in the late 70s (I grew up in Dover DE)

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Thank you. At least for Eric, Brian and I we would benefit from hangback moisture perhaps more than Nate. Great to be tracking this early. I like October storms better than April, unless it is an April blizzard. By April I'm not excited about 3-6 but in Oct it's awesome. Haven't seen anything beyond an inch in October since something in Delaware in the late 70s (I grew up in Dover DE)

If it tracks a bit north you would...but the current track would get his area in Rindge harder...you can see it between 81=84 hours on the GFS loop

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/ewall/AVNEAST_12z/avneastloop.html

It goes more ENE rather than hooking up to the north...at least as of now.

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