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Go Time - First Winter Storm Threat for New England 2011/12


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Seriously...the NAM/Euro combo would be an all-out historic October storm for this area! Even if they are a tad on the cold side...they still suggest highest elevations of of NY & SNE could really cash in. It's October...so gotta keep expectations in check...but still, it's nice to have the NAM & Euro together right now.

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Seriously...the NAM/Euro combo would be an all-out historic October storm for this area! Even if they are a tad on the cold side...they still suggest highest elevations of of NY & SNE could really cash in. It's October...so gotta keep expectations in check...but still, it's nice to have the NAM & Euro together right now.

How often have we been able to say that?

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Seriously...the NAM/Euro combo would be an all-out historic October storm for this area! Even if they are a tad on the cold side...they still suggest highest elevations of of NY & SNE could really cash in. It's October...so gotta keep expectations in check...but still, it's nice to have the NAM & Euro together right now.

At least it is later in the month. Things are slightly better being near Halloween than in mid month

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Seriously...the NAM/Euro combo would be an all-out historic October storm for this area! Even if they are a tad on the cold side...they still suggest highest elevations of of NY & SNE could really cash in. It's October...so gotta keep expectations in check...but still, it's nice to have the NAM & Euro together right now.

Yeah it's pretty remarkable. The timing seems just right for this type of storm in late October.

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Seriously...the NAM/Euro combo would be an all-out historic October storm for this area! Even if they are a tad on the cold side...they still suggest highest elevations of of NY & SNE could really cash in. It's October...so gotta keep expectations in check...but still, it's nice to have the NAM & Euro together right now.

Did you move from Clinton? If so, thats sad...Im going to miss your expertise, neighbor! (Im from Westbrook, but am at school in VT)

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At least it is later in the month. Things are slightly better being near Halloween than in mid month

Yeah every extra week helps. It will still be tough outside of elevations to get much accumulation I think unless we get a dynamical bomb in the 2nd storm (which is a long shot at this juncture anyway). The first system is definitely interesting for the high terrain in north-central MA/NW MA and Monadnocks of SW NH for SNE locations...we'll have to see if the Euro sticks with the 00z track or even slightly south. I'm getting pretty confident that most of the interior high terrain will at least see some snow out of this, but not very confident if it will accumulate or just be a cold rain that ends as flakes if we end up with a slightly too far north track.

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swfe... the nam is always way too wet

Not quite. We begin to close off a mid level low as the thing slides underneath us so you're able to crank frontogenesis on the NW side. The NAM gets cold once the northerly ageostrophic flow cranks in the boundary layer with a sfc low developing south of Long Island. Definitely different from a classic SWFE.

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Yeah every extra week helps. It will still be tough outside of elevations to get much accumulation I think unless we get a dynamical bomb in the 2nd storm (which is a long shot at this juncture anyway). The first system is definitely interesting for the high terrain in north-central MA/NW MA and Monadnocks of SW NH for SNE locations...we'll have to see if the Euro sticks with the 00z track or even slightly south. I'm getting pretty confident that most of the interior high terrain will at least see some snow out of this, but not very confident if it will accumulate or just be a cold rain that ends as flakes if we end up with a slightly too far north track.

Yeah I think that is fair to say. I feel pretty good for at least flakes from you on north and could very well be some accumulation.I think we should have an idea one way or another with the euro coming in. I guess I would just like to see that first system a little more to the south, but verbatim you would still flip to snow at the end. If the euro nudges north, then it might be just more flakes instead of some sort of an accumulation for your area.

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Not quite. We begin to close off a mid level low as the thing slides underneath us so you're able to crank frontogenesis on the NW side. The NAM gets cold once the northerly ageostrophic flow cranks in the boundary layer with a sfc low developing south of Long Island. Definitely different from a classic SWFE.

Yeah sort of a SWFE/Anafrontal storm hybrid...we stay SW at 5h but we close off the mid-levels and 5h keeps crashing SE despite the SW flow.

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Not quite. We begin to close off a mid level low as the thing slides underneath us so you're able to crank frontogenesis on the NW side. The NAM gets cold once the northerly ageostrophic flow cranks in the boundary layer with a sfc low developing south of Long Island. Definitely different from a classic SWFE.

Great post, hardly a SWFE with that strong ageo flow crashing the boundary. Looks like a high elevation above 1125 feet event.

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Yeah sort of a SWFE/Anafrontal storm hybrid...we stay SW at 5h but we close off the mid-levels and 5h keeps crashing SE despite the SW flow.

Yeah it starts off SWFE with a thump of warm advection but when things start to cool we flip from a SWFE to a cold conveyorbelt type of setup.

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Did you move from Clinton? If so, thats sad...Im going to miss your expertise, neighbor! (Im from Westbrook, but am at school in VT)

Yeah...moved over the summer. Still have a house to sell though, so that aspect sucks arrowheadsmiley.png But on the plus side...if I were still in Clinton I could already write this storm off...so it's nice to still have a legitimate shot at first flakes this week!

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Yeah sort of a SWFE/Anafrontal storm hybrid...we stay SW at 5h but we close off the mid-levels and 5h keeps crashing SE despite the SW flow.

What is a SWFE and what do you mean we stay SW? If you don't have time to answer since we are tracking a storm, no big deal but figured I would ask...thanks.

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