mappy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo DT is trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Directly or not, reposting is not allowed. Oh yeah, I definitely understand. I'm just saying that he may not be the primary source of the "leak" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Oh yeah, I definitely understand. I'm just saying that he may not be the primary source of the "leak" Yeah, I'm thinking he got it from a leak as well. Best we can do is just ask/tell him to remove it, but I'll leave it up to those who know more about the legal stuff than I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Yeah, I'm thinking he got it from a leak as well. Best we can do is just ask/tell him to remove it, but I'll leave it up to those who know more about the legal stuff than I do Does that mean Fozz shouldn't have posted it on my facebook wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Does that mean Fozz shouldn't have posted it on my facebook wall? Thing is if it's out it's out... one can try to stem the flow but there's no way to get it removed entirely. However, with DT posting in on his company's FB wall it could potentially be used for profit, which is a no-no. That's a different level than posting it on a private user's wall for no cost. Again, I'm not knowledged-up on the legal ramifications of it all, so we'll see how this plays out. I think we've gone OT on this subject enough for this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Thing is if it's out it's out... one can try to stem the flow but there's no way to get it removed entirely. However, with DT posting in on his company's FB wall it could potentially be used for profit, which is a no-no. That's a different level than posting it on a private user's wall for no cost. Again, I'm not knowledged-up on the legal ramifications of it all, so we'll see how this plays out. I think we've gone OT on this subject enough for this thread It's out - but I can remove it from my wall if it will make you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Thing is if it's out it's out... one can try to stem the flow but there's no way to get it removed entirely. However, with DT posting in on his company's FB wall it could potentially be used for profit, which is a no-no. That's a different level than posting it on a private user's wall for no cost. Again, I'm not knowledged-up on the legal ramifications of it all, so we'll see how this plays out. I think we've gone OT on this subject enough for this thread You could sell tickets to an all out wrestling match between DT and your superiors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Ian isn't admonishing us, he is just being real. The likely hood that this coastal system actually gives us snow this weekend, isn't much. Someone needs to keep us snow weenies in line. No he was definitely admonishing And it wasn't just in this thread. Look, I may be a snow weenie (at least I admit). But I'm pretty reasonable and realistic and for him to come in with an Lolz to a reasonable and very benign post is annoying. I'm not some dumb weenie drawing up accumulation maps for a storm 5 day away in late October This morning when ji was being reasonable, isaw nothing wrong with thread. He basically posted what the euro showed. It s the equivalent of Ian posted a 5 day euro showing record breaking 90's in April. Is he predicting that? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm on an iPhone so excuse the typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 No he was definitely admonishing And it wasn't just in this thread. Look, I may be a snow weenie (at least I admit). But I'm pretty reasonable and realistic and for him to come in with an Lolz to a reasonable and very benign post is annoying. I'm not some dumb weenie drawing up accumulation maps for a storm 5 day away in late October This morning when ji was being reasonable, isaw nothing wrong with thread. He basically posted what the euro showed. It s the equivalent of Ian posted a 5 day euro showing record breaking 90's in April. Is he predicting that? No. In Ians defense, he did later say that the Lolz was probably not the best thing to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris87 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Thing is if it's out it's out... one can try to stem the flow but there's no way to get it removed entirely. However, with DT posting in on his company's FB wall it could potentially be used for profit, which is a no-no. That's a different level than posting it on a private user's wall for no cost. Again, I'm not knowledged-up on the legal ramifications of it all, so we'll see how this plays out. I think we've gone OT on this subject enough for this thread Hard not to laugh at this situation...enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Who's this DT guy anyways? I've heard him mentioned a gazillion times here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 No he was definitely admonishing And it wasn't just in this thread. Look, I may be a snow weenie (at least I admit). But I'm pretty reasonable and realistic and for him to come in with an Lolz to a reasonable and very benign post is annoying. I'm not some dumb weenie drawing up accumulation maps for a storm 5 day away in late October This morning when ji was being reasonable, isaw nothing wrong with thread. He basically posted what the euro showed. It s the equivalent of Ian posted a 5 day euro showing record breaking 90's in April. Is he predicting that? No. I'm defensive and you're sensitive (midlo liked being called a snow weenie!). Yeah it's true I get annoyed with people who like snow only, because many get carried away with it and always run to extremes and quite a few care less about how it happens meteorologically. Ji posted about the Euro at first rather than some broader storm threat. Then there were snow maps etc. To me it's early for this considering last year was pretty ugly in this subforum. You can say whatever you want about me but I'm in this forum talking weather all year. I thought your statement was funny that a month later you'd give it a real legit look. It's a convoluted pattern that needs to come together as shown now -- 5 days out -- to give us a cold rain. If we lived in WV I may be a bit more excited myself. When it comes to snow discussion being overly measured is like the worst evil possible. And as Katie already noted I said my lolz were probably a bad idea. But you got me hours later.. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Hard not to consider at least potential for wet flakes at this point. LWX made reference to ptype in the afd. Coming in at night on friday with a decent 500mb setup (at least on the models) and cold enough air aloft. I totally doubt any real chance at accum snow (if any snow at all) but there is a chance at this point to see flakes coming down. THAT is enough for me to enjoy the track. It would be pretty cool to see snow falling again and seeing it in Oct would make this fall memorable imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Who's this DT guy anyways? I've heard him mentioned a gazillion times here. he's a mental therapist that used to provide professional help to a few members of the Board and quite often, the only sane person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hard not to consider at least potential for wet flakes at this point. LWX made reference to ptype in the afd. Coming in at night on friday with a decent 500mb setup (at least on the models) and cold enough air aloft. I totally doubt any real chance at accum snow (if any snow at all) but there is a chance at this point to see flakes coming down. THAT is enough for me to enjoy the track. It would be pretty cool to see snow falling again and seeing it in Oct would make this fall memorable imo. This. I don't expect ~4 as the Euro map has for me, but even seeing a rain/snow mix the last weekend of October would be pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 he's a mental therapist that used to provide professional help to a few members of the Board and quite often, the only sane person I've heard alot of people describe DT many different ways but THIS is a new one. Sane if he lived on shutter island maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hard not to laugh at this situation...enjoy Not sure why you would laugh... I'm aware of how inane it all is on a grand scale, but the fact of the matter is someone (who in this case owns what could be considered a competing company) posted another company's paid subscription product for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris87 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Not sure why you would laugh... I'm aware of how inane it all is on a grand scale, but the fact of the matter is someone (who in this case owns what could be considered a competing company) posted another company's paid subscription product for free. sorry, it was more like a short chuckle in fun, but seriously if there is someone in the world who could ban DT from ever looking at the Euro again, the world would be a better place. you should get your boss to send him a cease and desist for fun at least.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This. I don't expect ~4 as the Euro map has for me, but even seeing a rain/snow mix the last weekend of October would be pretty cool I agree and it's possible if not likely. This thread has evolved tho. It was initially a 95 snowstorm thread. I just feel like memories are short sometimes. We get screwed 12 hours out so 5 days out is cake comparatively. I'm also not at all sure what would gve anyone confidence around here given the 500mb pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm also not at all sure what would gve anyone confidence around here given the 500mb pattern. For me, only the 500mb vorticity at the base of the trough @ hr 114 on the 12z gfs + 850 temp and slp. 1023 hp up in NE that doesn't just scoot away off the coast. I know it's grasping a bit and I hope I didn't imply confidence. My interpretation is that there is a chance of flakes falling and that is totally cool with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 For me, only the 500mb vorticity at the base of the trough @ hr 114 on the 12z gfs + 850 temp and slp. 1023 hp up in NE that doesn't just scoot away off the coast. I know it's grasping a bit and I hope I didn't imply confidence. My interpretation is that there is a chance of flakes falling and that is totally cool with me. I guess I'm too cynical. Nothing I didn't really know before. The closed 500 low north of New England probably wants to keep it from cutting too hard but we have no breathing room as is around here. It seems in most cases, particularly early season, we end up seeing this all come nw a bit into the end. The last low was supposed to be a coastal according to some two letter mets etc. It was a big fat low over the lakes with a tiny secondary. That's not likely to happen this time but we need this to be perfect to get much more than rain... and even a few flakes would be a win around here for winter fans. It could also phase too late which we're not strangers to either. Either way if it's a cold rain / nor'easter it's pretty anomalous for this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm defensive and you're sensitive (midlo liked being called a snow weenie!). Yeah it's true I get annoyed with people who like snow only, because many get carried away with it and always run to extremes and quite a few care less about how it happens meteorologically. Ji posted about the Euro at first rather than some broader storm threat. Then there were snow maps etc. To me it's early for this considering last year was pretty ugly in this subforum. You can say whatever you want about me but I'm in this forum talking weather all year. I thought your statement was funny that a month later you'd give it a real legit look. It's a convoluted pattern that needs to come together as shown now -- 5 days out -- to give us a cold rain. If we lived in WV I may be a bit more excited myself. When it comes to snow discussion being overly measured is like the worst evil possible. And as Katie already noted I said my lolz were probably a bad idea. But you got me hours later.. Thanks. I didn't see the later posts. But we get it, you're here posting constantly in every season and I'm not. So what. I don't have a whole lot to say about 99 degrees with a dew of 72. If that's gets you tingling, great. I just don't care enough to post about it. Don't you wish others who don't have anything great to say did the same? I'm glad we're branching out from just snow and I enjoy the tropical posts as well...but since I don't know enough about it, I lurked and shut the hell up. My point is, I just don't think its a good idea to be going through angst because people on a weather board are talking about an extreme MODEL prog. Oh, I don't mind at all being a snow weenie. Wes calls me that and I wear it with a badge of honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I didn't see the later posts. But we get it, you're here posting constantly in every season and I'm not. So what. I don't have a whole lot to say about 99 degrees with a dew of 72. If that's gets you tingling, great. I just don't care enough to post about it. Don't you wish others who don't have anything great to say did the same? I'm glad we're branching out from just snow and I enjoy the tropical posts as well...but since I don't know enough about it, I lurked and shut the hell up. My point is, I just don't think its a good idea to be going through angst because people on a weather board are talking about an extreme MODEL prog. Oh, I don't mind at all being a snow weenie. Wes calls me that and I wear it with a badge of honor. That's fine. I wasn't really admonishing anyone in particular. I'm just worried about the tone. We need more people like Matt posting here rather than more Ji. Plus you might have missed the part that I am probably inadvertently helping the cause by being so against it happening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohleary Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 dismissing it because it's oct is only one part of it. sometimes i wonder if anyone reads each others posts here. just look how much we have go wrong in complicated setups EVERY YEAR during prime winter. the OCT part is only a part of it. Right. Of course take climatology into account. A few folks said outright no chance because it's October. Which is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Right. Of course take climatology into account. A few folks said outright no chance because it's October. Which is silly. I think some of it is probably oversimplified. Not everyone goes into great detail when they think something (I know I fall into that trap myself). The odds are heavily stacked against it this early even in a great setup. This one is intriguing but I don't know if I'd call it great. That said, I sometimes wonder if having too much climo knowledge is a bad thing as much as having none. I'd say personally I'm much more apt to be wrong on something by too heavily weighting climo. Of course a forecaster should be averse to predicting records at any time, but they do happen of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnis Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hello, I will say that in my 47 years I can't remember a significant October snow here in upper moco, but I do remember the big snow we got in the 80's a week or so from now. I guess some flakes are possible but I am doubtful. Is anyone really confident about snow in central MD based on model runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris87 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I think some of it is probably oversimplified. Not everyone goes into great detail when they think something (I know I fall into that trap myself). The odds are heavily stacked against it this early even in a great setup. This one is intriguing but I don't know if I'd call it great. That said, I sometimes wonder if having too much climo knowledge is a bad thing as much as having none. I'd say personally I'm much more apt to be wrong on something by too heavily weighting climo. Of course a forecaster should be averse to predicting records at any time, but they do happen of course. I think in this case you can use all the climo knowledge you have...it's October....there's a reason these events don't happen in reality often....That being said, i would be pretty pessimistic about the evolution of this event even if this was Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 look....i woke up at 5am...checked the euro(i had this weird gut feeling) since i almost never check it till Late November....saw the MOS and decided to post the results for the board as a news item..not a prediction. 200 posts later...looks like i did the right thing:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 if i saw this model run in July, i still would of posted it but probably would be less inclined to believe it..... and yes..the JMA has it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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