yoda Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Backlash! But Zwyts says makes sense though. Here is the 120hr 12z EURO SLP/850 T composite... cold rain ftw on this panel. In before Zwyts says something about how I am a silly poster for posting this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 At 120, low over outer banks, 850 line up by Hagerstown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Backlash! But Zwyts says makes sense though. Here is the 120hr 12z EURO SLP/850 T composite... cold rain ftw on this panel. In before Zwyts says something about how I am a silly poster for posting this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Winter cancel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 You know me better than that. I was just being sarcastic. We never get backlash around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Winter cancel 18z GFS will save us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 yes...I know...I mentioned that all 3 were ninos a number of posts back Silly me, you did! I somehow skimmed over that part. Out of curiosity, how do we know that there were Ninas (or Ninos, for that matter) way back when? Are there old ship reports of water temps in the Pacific? Is it an educated guess based on an amalgamation of other factors? They do stuff. I don't use pre-1950 data myself, but I thought I'd include the older info since there were only two post-1950 Nina events to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 hr 144 has a 980mb low east of cape cod pretty damn big storm for this time of year, looks like the mountains from wva up to NE. do well with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Silly me, you did! I somehow skimmed over that part. They do stuff. I don't use pre-1950 data myself, but I thought I'd include the older info since there were only two post-1950 Nina events to look at. Makes sense. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to come up with stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 hr 144 has a 980mb low east of cape cod pretty damn big storm for this time of year, looks like the mountains from wva up to NE. do well with this. I've missed your euro play-by-plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I've missed your euro play-by-plays Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Because someone was going to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Because someone was going to... you screwed WV outta some snow with that map.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Because someone was going to... So close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 you screwed WV outta some snow with that map.. We only care about the panhandle, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 If current data verifies, this should be an elevation event from the BR into W.Va., possible above 1000' , and likely above 3000'. GFS and Euro approaching consensus on event, but Euro a little warmer at 6z Sat. with 850 w. of I81 compared to GFS along BR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 If current data verifies, this should be an elevation event from the BR into W.Va., possible above 1000' , and likely above 3000'. GFS and Euro approaching consensus on event, but Euro a little warmer at 6z Sat. with 850 w. of I81 compared to GFS along BR. it's still at a minimum like 4 days off and at a max 6.. also dependent on a frontrunner storm. im not sure 'consensus' means jack at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Euro gives me 2 inches of snow Saturday, I'm hugging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 anyone know what the euro snow map is showing? 24 hr totals? less? it seems really low in spots for the QPF (particularly NE of here into New England). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 it's still at a minimum like 4 days off and at a max 6.. also dependent on a frontrunner storm. im not sure 'consensus' means jack at this point. agreed, "consensus" doesn't mean "Jack".... unless it verifies. It is interesting to see the 12z GFS and ECMWF both in the court of support for some type of event for 110 - 130 hrs. If that event occurs, climo and temp. profiles suggest an elevation event. The trending toward consensus is an upgrade from 6z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 That's pretty amazing. Did the Veterans Day Storm of 1987 miss your area? That day (November 11), DCA recorded 11.5 inches of snow, but IAD had only 5.3 inches. My fault, I'd forgotten about that one. We did get snow here; I believe we ended up with 5 - 6 inches out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 anyone know what the euro snow map is showing? 24 hr totals? less? it seems really low in spots for the QPF (particularly NE of here into New England). From the 12z Euro clown map: Storm totals showing almost no snowfall east of I-95... a nice foot+ swath runs from south-central PA up through southern ME (with one small disconnect in central PA). Small 2 ft. max in western MA up on the Berkshires. NW MD cashes in with 8-12" ...northern MD from BWI to PHL pretty much running on the edge of the snow gradient in the 2" range. DCA/IAD right on the edge of the bigger stuff to the NW. Snow shield goes all the way out to western PA and central WV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 From the 12z Euro clown map: Storm totals showing almost no snowfall east of I-95... a nice foot+ swath runs from south-central PA up through southern ME (with one small disconnect in central PA). Small 2 ft. max in western MA up on the Berkshires. NW MD cashes in with 8-12" ...northern MD from BWI to PHL pretty much running on the edge of the snow gradient in the 2" range. DCA/IAD right on the edge of the bigger stuff to the NW. Snow shield goes all the way out to western PA and central WV. cool. i meant the wunderground one specifically but those totals back up that it's showing a short period or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Ian, I think Mark was talking about the underground one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 cool. i meant the wunderground one specifically but those totals back up that it's showing a short period or wrong. Yeah, I just figured I'd pull the data off of the MDA site just to get a grasp on the total affected area and actual model-estimated storm totals (as unlikely as they are). Ian, I think Mark was talking about the underground one It's not as detailed, but it's a lot easier to look at MDA's maps vs. wunderground (I wish we would contour stuff that's under 2" ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Ian, I think Mark was talking about the underground one it's definitely showing short periods.. either 3 or 6 hr, not event total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 it's definitely showing short periods.. either 3 or 6 hr, not event total Oh...yeah, three hours on wunderground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 There is really nothing to see here. No snow in Oct on average so let's keep it real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 My fault, I'd forgotten about that one. We did get snow here; I believe we ended up with 5 - 6 inches out here. Thanks. That storm is the all-time DC autumn blockbuster, even though it wasn't that bad to the west of the city. According to-- http://www.colinbeav...Snowstorms.html -- " . . . a completely unforecasted low pressure bombed off the North Carolina coast and produced a mesoscale convective snow band that passed through southern Maryland and the Washington, D.C. area. National airport received 11.5 inches of snow and some locations in Prince Georges county to the east of D.C. received up to 17 inches of snow. A storm like this was unheard of in the D.C. area in the fall and the city and surrounding areas became completely paralyzed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 There is really nothing to see here. No snow in Oct on average so let's keep it real. its a wacked solution even if both euro/gfs are similar. i'd say it trends nw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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