RodneyS Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 In official AF observing, we had to report measurable hail as snow/ice. Thanks for the information. The problem with the DC weather record that I have is that, generally, hail is not listed as a trace amount in the "snow" column, but occasionally it is listed. So, it appears to depend upon the recorder as to whether hail gets listed in that column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 It came a week later than this "storm" is progged, but 11/6/1953 DCA had 6.6", BWI had 5.9" and MRB had 6" That's probably the earliest widespread heavy snow in our region. That storm had a much different 500h pattern with a closed 500h low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 another big coastal hr 168 , 500 trough digs all the way to the gulf then closes off a 500 low in western NC, then over va.--- warm this go round all rain but interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Euro gives everyone (except you central VA and DCA pukes) a hard freeze on Sunday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 euro is a bit warmer than 00z runs which makes a big difference in OCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 euro is a bit warmer than 00z runs which makes a big difference in OCT dt says it's the same and he's a genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 dt says it's the same and he's a genius 12Z TUESDAY EUROPEAN HOLDS COURSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Euro shows another big storm (albeit rain) at around 174hrs. If nothing else, I sure love seeing these coastals form every few days East QBO will be our snow savior this winter; we'll get our share of rain, but we'll get some hits too p.s. 12Z JMA is 2" qpf for the weekend with "some" snow, but it's hard to figure out exactly based on the 24 hr map intervals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 F-cking Miller B's I wonder if the Euro is continuing it's legacy from last winter. It was a big c*cktease in the Day 5-7 range only to lose these sweet looking storms as we got closer to gametime. If I learned anything from last winter, it was not to get excited by a northern-stream dominant pattern. I'm not falling again for the s**t the Euro pulled last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I hope we get a good amount of rain...we need it...it has been kind of dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 yeah, last year was bad but 08/09 was even worse I still have those images saved in my computer because I'm such a loosing whiner I honestly don't remember that winter. Probably because I was getting ready to get married and buy a house, so had other things on my mind. Also probably because nothing happened and I wasn't really following things back then like I do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I honestly don't remember that winter. Probably because I was getting ready to get married and buy a house, so had other things on my mind. Also probably because nothing happened and I wasn't really following things back then like I do now. Let me help. That was my first year living on the east side of the Apps vs. the west side. 08-09 was literally the worst winter of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 If nothing else, I sure love seeing these coastals form every few days East QBO will be our snow savior this winter; we'll get our share of rain, but we'll get some hits too I can deal with that. I don't mind rolling snakeeyes 3 out of 4 times if we get sevens on the 4th. If I learned anything from last winter, it was not to get excited by a northern-stream dominant pattern. I'm not falling again for the s**t the Euro pulled last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Mid 40s for a sat high and showers... no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I hope we get a good amount of rain...we need it...it has been kind of dry How was the harvest this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I've read a couple of places where Rina's movement or lack of it might help the storm. Not sure I buy it. It it moves across Florida it would probably hurt it some but if it stays put, I don't see much of an influence. The big factor is the upper trough and what it does. The euro is sharper than the other models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Mid 40s for a sat high and showers... no thanks Wife and I are throwing an Oktoberfest party on Saturday. It's gonna suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 'Eff Lucy and the 2010-2011 winter Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I've read a couple of places where Rina's movement or lack of it might help the storm. Not sure I buy it. It it moves across Florida it would probably hurt it some but if it stays put, I don't see much of an influence. The big factor is the upper trough and what it does. The euro is sharper than the other models. I was briefly wondering yesterday about a Wilma like interaction. Tho I don't recall the setup then to a T. There was a concurrent coastal that dropped some decent snow in elevation up to the north (my location near Binghamton got wet non sticking snow all day). edit: actually I guess it came down into elevation through pa and this area. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/ctp/features/2005/25Oct/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I guess there was a deep closed 500 low over the apps with that one.. http://nws.met.psu.edu/severe/2005/25Oct2005.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 How was the harvest this year? Hay harvest was spectaclar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 It will be dificult for the euro solution to verify, the northern stream is pretty progressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalfy Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 gfs just went on board with the euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 gfs just went on board with the euro It's clearly the preseason given the lack of activity in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 gfs just went on board with the euro cold rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 If this were winter I'd say thats a MicroSECS similar to the PDI. However it's October so It's rain mixed with sleet and a few mangled nonaccumulating flakes. Or in short, rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 <snip> If this were winter I'd say thats a MicroSECS similar to the PDI. However it's October so It's rain mixed with sleet and a few mangled nonaccumulating flakes. Or in short, rain. i dunno... that map shows that the thicknesses are cold enough for it to LOOK LIKE snow. Even the 850-700 thickness hovers around 152 at 90. Yes, its October. yes 2M temps are in the 40s. But still, looks kinda cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalfy Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 If this were winter I'd say thats a MicroSECS similar to the PDI. However it's October so It's rain mixed with sleet and a few mangled nonaccumulating flakes. Or in short, rain. Any flakes in october is a win in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 According to Raleigh's maps... it shows 2" of snow along I-95 i believe at hr 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 gfs just went on board with the euro And the euro went back to the GFS from yesterday. All we have is a coastal rain. If any higher elev. squeeze out a flake then it is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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