BethesdaWX Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hmmm...pretty hard to snow at 43 (or higher). Possible, but takes a pretty special environment that's not too common around here. What were temps the next day? Did a big cold front blast through or something? If temps the next day were about the same, I call BS on that. I think just last winter we had a brief period of rain/snow mix between 45-50 degrees across the MA? I'll try to dig it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 zlol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 http://www.wundergro...eq_statename=NA So the next day was much colder ==> a big front probably did go through that day. So, it might be right. Still pretty hard to get that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 zlol lozl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 i just trolled dt on facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceFrederickWx Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Next day it was 49 High, 34 Low. Here's the October records: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/climate/bwi/bwi1003.txt What's weird is they don't list the trace amount of snow on the daily records, but it shows up on that October records page I posted before and on the yearly snowfall totals page: http://www.erh.noaa....bwi/bwisnow.txt Its not on that Wunderground page RodneyS posted either. So did it snow or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 i just trolled dt on facebook he deleted the good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Next day it was 43 High, 34 Low. Here's the October records: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/climate/bwi/bwi1003.txt What's weird is they don't list the trace amount of snow on the daily records, but it shows up on that October records page I posted before and on the yearly snowfall totals page: http://www.erh.noaa....bwi/bwisnow.txt Its not on that Wunderground page RodneyS posted either. So did it snow or not? There was precip on the 22nd. I'd be more inclined to believe the monthly climo report (and the lack of anyone remembering it) than the snowfall totals. That snowfall totals link also shows a Trace of snow in June in 2002?!? Hail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hmmm...pretty hard to snow at 43 (or higher). Possible, but takes a pretty special environment that's not too common around here. What were temps the next day? Did a big cold front blast through or something? If temps the next day were about the same, I call BS on that. Weather Underground says that the range on October 23, 2003 was 35-48; see http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KBWI/2003/10/23/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This? http://www.emc.ncep..../emchurr/tcgen/ That's it. I thought it had the GEFS tracks but doesn't, only the SREF. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 he deleted the good one. Were you trolling his "alert/geek post"/GFS-bashing comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Were you trolling his "alert/geek post"/GFS-bashing comment? yes i asked why he still hugs the euro so much and if he felt his self congratulation on a storm 5 days away was premature yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 That's it. I thought it had the GEFS tracks but doesn't, only the SREF. Thanks. I think the GEFS (and others) are out on the new Model Analysis & Guidance (MAG) site: http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller?prevpage=index&MainPage=index&cat=MODEL+GUIDANCE&page=MODEL+GUIDANCE Here's the link to the Ops and Experimental model output front page for all of the products: http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/GEFS/.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 That snowfall totals link also shows a Trace of snow in June in 2002?!? Hail? The DC weather records that I have show a trace of snow on several summer days, including July 1, 1990, when the temperature range was 69-90, and there were 0.44 inches of precipitation. Obviously any frozen precipitation that fell on that day had to be hail, but perhaps a novice employee who is asked to record the amount of "snow and ice" may interpret hail to qualify in that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I think the GEFS (and others) are out on the new Model Analysis & Guidance (MAG) site: http://mag.ncep.noaa...=MODEL+GUIDANCE Here's the link to the Ops and Experimental model output front page for all of the products: http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/GEFS/.php GEFS seem a bit more supportive of the storm #2 idea. Lots of spread extending back closer to the coast Monday-ish. GFS and GEFS definitely slowed both systems down somewhat. The DC weather records that I have show a trace of snow on several summer days, including July 1, 1990, when the temperature range was 69-90, and there were 0.44 inches of precipitation. Obviously any frozen precipitation that fell on that day had to be hail, but perhaps a novice employee who is asked to record the amount of "snow and ice" may interpret hail to qualify in that category. In official AF observing, we had to report measurable hail as snow/ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Based on talk in the other subforums, Euro bombs the second storm again. Midlo, what's the word for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 euro not budging, shifted a little east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 euro not budging, shifted a little east that's good for those along and just east of the dreaded I95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 that's good for those along and just east of the dreaded I95 Mitch, don't fall for it. Even in the dead of winter we can't get sh*t right around here. It's one model. And it's likely way too amp'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 only a few more cycles till the euro caves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 96h low off cape charles is what I heard. Nice coastal placement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Based on talk in the other subforums, Euro bombs the second storm again. Midlo, what's the word for us? looks like some snow in the mtns. va, wva. nothing heavy. the storm bombs east of del. as it passes the mid atl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 euro not budging, shifted a little east That about covers it. The 12Z gefs ensemble mean is still east but has lots of spread back towards the coast suggesting it has a few more euro like members somewhere in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 looks like some snow in the mtns. va, wva. nothing heavy. the storm bombs east of del. as it passes the mid atl. no more 1"+ qpf in the cold air over wv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 only a few more cycles till the euro caves 18z will bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 looks like some snow in the mtns. va, wva. nothing heavy. the storm bombs east of del. as it passes the mid atl. F-cking Miller B's I wonder if the Euro is continuing it's legacy from last winter. It was a big c*cktease in the Day 5-7 range only to lose these sweet looking storms as we got closer to gametime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 18z will bomb too much model watching for a rainstorm (if that) around here.. im about to check out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 too much model watching for a rainstorm (if that) around here.. im about to check out. quitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 It came a week later than this "storm" is progged, but 11/6/1953 DCA had 6.6", BWI had 5.9" and MRB had 6" That's probably the earliest widespread heavy snow in our region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 F-cking Miller B's I wonder if the Euro is continuing it's legacy from last winter. It was a big c*cktease in the Day 5-7 range only to lose these sweet looking storms as we got closer to gametime. yeah, last year was bad but 08/09 was even worse I still have those images saved in my computer because I'm such a loosing whiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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