AppsRunner Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 He's a lame a** troll. But yeah, just in case, I'm scouting real estate in the Arctic Circle. Arctic circle looks torchy with sea ice loss, even Antarctica looks bad. I've heard there's a lot of ice in parts of Mars though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Saturday, November 26th: Hi: 53F Lo: 43F Overall Sky Conditions: Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 17MPH Rainfall: 0.90" Snowfall: 0.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 2011 is now the 3rd wettest year on record for Chicago. Top 10 wettest years: 1. 2008 - 50.86" 2. 1983 - 49.35" 3. 2011 - 47.06" 4. 1970 - 46.09" 5. 1954 - 45.92" 6. 1883 - 45.86" 7. 2001 - 45.77" 8. 1993 - 44.90" 9. 1982 - 44.68" 10. 1885 - 44.29" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 man, the 0z GFS is almost a continual torch! And the 6z has us in the icebox after D7. Don't live and die with the OP runs my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 The blue on this map must mean, like, a blue flame from a torch Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Nicely done. Could you explain to me what caused the Nina's of the late 1990s to be so lackluster in comparison to the run of fruitful Ninas we've had lately? Thanks man! There are many reasons but I'll tell you the main points. 1997-98 was a very strong El Nino and the amount of OHC it released into the atmosphere is just unbelievable. Despite the 3 year Nina following that El Nino the atmosphere itself had still resembled a El Nino "look" thus the following years globally had looked more like an El Nino pattern despite an La Nina going on. The PDO had shifted into its cold phase from mid 1998 thru mid 2001 though the residual effects of the warm PDO were still in effect as it was in its warm phase since 1977 at that point in time. The heat released from the 1997-98 El Nino advanced towards the Pole as you can see coupled with the AMO shifting into its warm phase prior to the super El nino. This allowed the Troposphere to warm up unbelievabley across the Arctic thus the Stratosphere stayed cool and the NAO/AO had a hard time going negative. The Heat doesn't dissipate as you can see despite a La Nina going on. And things only got worse from there as you can see the consistent El Nino's that developed in 2002 thru early 2007 which kept the atmosphere very warm with all that OHC being released. It wasnt until 2007-08 when the atmosphere finally cooled and it resembled a more typical Nina. This is a good reason why 2007-08/2008-09 looked more like La Nina's than the late 80's and late 90's Nina events. However 2000-01 resembled a bit more like a La Nina as the atmosphere cooled slightly. Either way the late 90's Nina's were sh!t and I dont see them repeating for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share Posted November 27, 2011 Thanks man! There are many reasons but I'll tell you the main points. 1997-98 was a very strong El Nino and the amount of OHC it released into the atmosphere is just unbelievable. Despite the 3 year Nina following that El Nino the atmosphere itself had still resembled a El Nino "look" thus the following years globally had looked more like an El Nino pattern despite an La Nina going on. The PDO had shifted into its cold phase from mid 1998 thru mid 2001 though the residual effects of the warm PDO were still in effect as it was in its warm phase since 1977 at that point in time. The heat released from the 1997-98 El Nino advanced towards the Pole as you can see coupled with the AMO shifting into its warm phase prior to the super El nino. This allowed the Troposphere to warm up unbelievabley across the Arctic thus the Stratosphere stayed cool and the NAO/AO had a hard time going negative. The Heat doesn't dissipate as you can see despite a La Nina going on. And things only got worse from there as you can see the consistent El Nino's that developed in 2002 thru early 2007 which kept the atmosphere very warm with all that OHC being released. It wasnt until 2007-08 when the atmosphere finally cooled and it resembled a more typical Nina. This is a good reason why 2007-08/2008-09 looked more like La Nina's than the late 80's and late 90's Nina events. However 2000-01 resembled a bit more like a La Nina as the atmosphere cooled slightly. Either way the late 90's Nina's were sh!t and I dont see them repeating for a while. Thanks. I didn't realize strong ENSO regimes had such an impact on weather patterns long after they've demised. I do remember 1999-00 had quite a number of storms that tended to shear off to our S & W, which is typical Nino climo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Steel gray skies all day today. Pretty chilly with temps hovering in the mid 30s. Has the look to it like snow is imminent but that's not the case lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 0.68" total for this system, through 3PM. Brings the November total for LAF up to 3.59". Other recent November monthly precipitation totals: 2010: 3.50" 2009: 2.69" 2008: 1.48" 2007: 4.86" Normal 1981-10 precip at LAF is 2.97". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Getting some flakes flying here!! (Hoffman Estates).. Only the second time this season so it still feels special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Getting some flakes flying here!! (Hoffman Estates).. Only the second time this season so it still feels special. Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Getting some flakes flying here!! (Hoffman Estates).. Flurries here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 At 0.62" of rain so far today and more on the way. This evenings TWN forecast is for 2.56" Mon/Tues... so that could be over 3" in three days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 At 0.62" of rain so far today and more on the way. This evenings TWN forecast is for 2.56" Mon/Tues... so that could be over 3" in three days. Only 0.17" here. Everything is fizzling as it moves east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 0.75" here for round one, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Was checking into the availability of the upgraded dual-pol radar data and ran across this NWS DP training software. Pretty interesting stuff! Even though many of us might not get to use DP for quite some time it's nice to see how this new feature works. The Allisonhouse site lists dual-pol data "coming" in their high end ($275/yr) package. Who knows when that will be though. The Winter Weather link is especially interesting given the time of year. http://www.wdtb.noaa...treach/#nonmets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Was checking into the availability of the upgraded dual-pol radar data and ran across this NWS DP training software. Pretty interesting stuff! Even though many of us might not get to use DP for quite some time it's nice to see how this new feature works. The Allisonhouse site lists dual-pol data "coming" in there high end ($275/yr) package. Who knows when that will be though. The Winter Weather link is especially interesting given the time of year. http://www.wdtb.noaa...treach/#nonmets You can see dual pol data on radar scope right now, which is relatively cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Was checking into the availability of the upgraded dual-pol radar data and ran across this NWS DP training software. Pretty interesting stuff! Even though many of us might not get to use DP for quite some time it's nice to see how this new feature works. The Allisonhouse site lists dual-pol data "coming" in there high end ($275/yr) package. Who knows when that will be though. The Winter Weather link is especially interesting given the time of year. http://www.wdtb.noaa...treach/#nonmets Since you bring it up... You're gonna like this teaser... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Dual pol is just as big of an advancement as the original upgrade to the WSR-88D imo. It should be more useful than surface obs for precip type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 LAF up to 3.66" of rainfall for November now. Using the WL COOP for reference (data since 1901), if the models are right with this next system in which some have 2.00"+, it could be a top 5-ish wet November. 1) 8.71" - 1985 2) 6.89" - 1992 3) 6.56" - 1927 4) 5.41" - 1921 5) 5.23" - 2007 6) 5.07" - 1966 7) 4.88" - 1934 8) 4.79" - 1935 9) 4.78" - 1942 10) 4.71" - 1968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Since you bring it up... You're gonna like this teaser... Nice! Hopefully AH makes it available soon. I spent over an hour taking the Winter Weather and Hail tutorials on the link I posted above. DP definitely makes a lot more sense now. I got a 100% on the quizzes at the end of the tutorials lol. Sorry for hijacking this thread, maybe I should have started a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 You can see dual pol data on radar scope right now, which is relatively cheap For whatever reason radarscope doesn't show up in Android Market on my Galaxy S. Have never had a problem finding anything else before there. I have the pykl3, which is just as good as radarscope, but unfortunately without DP. Stayed cloudy all day here. Temps never budged from the mid 30s. Even though for days and days the models showed snow showers and flurries for us today, we received nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Sunday, November 27th: Hi: 43F Lo: 35F Overall Sky Conditions: Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 23MPH Rainfall: 0.11" Snowfall: Trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Have some flakes mixing in with the light rain right now out here at KDTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 November rainfall totals and departures, through yesterday, across Indiana. Evansville: 7.15" +3.27" Muncie: 5.13" +2.01" Terre Haute: 4.55" +1.11" Shelbyville: 4.47" +1.11" Lafayette: 3.66" +0.99" North Webster NWS: 3.44" +0.44" Indianapolis: 3.40" +0.06" Fort Wayne: 3.17" +0.40" Goshen: 2.99" +0.17" South Bend: 2.95" 0.00 Indianapolis Eagle Creek: 2.86" -0.46" Bloomington: 2.46" -1.09" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 LES right now in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Thought we might clear out today...WRONG... another day in the clouds. Amazing how cloudy it has been here the past week or so. Tis the season I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The GFS is forecasting 0.00" of precip for the next 288 hours at MSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The GFS is forecasting 0.00" of precip for the next 288 hours at MSN Remember the GFS' suppression bias, and look at the Euro for next weekend, which at this point indicates a possibility of a winter storm in C Iowa through C Wisconsin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Remember the GFS' suppression bias, and look at the Euro for next weekend, which at this point indicates a possibility of a winter storm in C Iowa through C Wisconsin. I'm sure we'll get some precip in that time regardless, when is the GFS ever that accurate? If we can clear these stupid clouds out we may see northern lights later. A CME should hit Earth this evening. Trends aren't that good for clearing though. Still below freezing as of 10 am from the lack of sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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