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GLOV November obs/disco thread

snowstormcanuck

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It's not just Henry. Anyone look at the Euro weeklies? Full blown suntan weather for next three weeks.

And, yes, take the "suntan" comment as tongue-in-cheek.

Regardless ... it looks warm, and anytime we're warm in December, that's one less month of winter to contend with. So, to me, it doesn't matter if the winter is backloaded or not. Come March, my spring bulbs come up as usual, snow melts and we move onward to spring.

PS: The Euro monthlies have warm December/January, normal February (warmth knocking on our door to the south) and warm March.

This will not be a typical Nina of the past few winters. Blocking is also absent.

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SpartyOn

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It's not just Henry. Anyone look at the Euro weeklies? Full blown suntan weather for next three weeks.

And, yes, take the "suntan" comment as tongue-in-cheek.

Regardless ... it looks warm, and anytime we're warm in December, that's one less month of winter to contend with. So, to me, it doesn't matter if the winter is backloaded or not. Come March, my spring bulbs come up as usual, snow melts and we move onward to spring.

PS: The Euro monthlies have warm December/January, normal February (warmth knocking on our door to the south) and warm March.

This will not be a typical Nina of the past few winters. Blocking is also absent.

Lol

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AppsRunner

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Gotta give credit to RC.. Walking into a wintery snake pit with a blow torch. Ballsy! Regardless of how wrong it is. Lol

Yet when you called out how ****ty the pattern looked 3 days ago, you wouldn't have had said that his forecast was wrong. You are quite possibly the most inconsistent poster on this board. One day it looks like Tropical hacked your account, then the next you go back to the cold side. No offense or anything, but pick a side and stay out of the "drama" you've started to create.

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Yet when you called out how ****ty the pattern looked 3 days ago, you wouldn't have had said that his forecast was wrong. You are quite possibly the most inconsistent poster on this board. One day it looks like Tropical hacked your account, then the next you go back to the cold side. No offense or anything, but pick a side and stay out of the "drama" you've started to create.

I'm unsure how to respond to this.."drama" .

I never said we would be golfing around Christmas... Just saying.

For Gods sake...

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Yet when you called out how ****ty the pattern looked 3 days ago, you wouldn't have had said that his forecast was wrong. You are quite possibly the most inconsistent poster on this board. One day it looks like Tropical hacked your account, then the next you go back to the cold side. No offense or anything, but pick a side and stay out of the "drama" you've started to create.

Is there anything wrong with trying to be unbiased? Although I don't necessarily agree with him, I have to respect that he clearly is not a weenie, and says what he honestly feels without bias (Spartyon, that is).

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I'm unsure how to respond to this.."drama" .

I never said we would be golfing around Christmas... Just saying.

For Gods sake...

When did I imply you said that? I was referring to your post in this thread a couple days ago where you said the long range looked bad, then today, you said that a warm forecast for December would be horribly wrong.

Is there anything wrong with trying to be unbiased? Although I don't necessarily agree with him, I have to respect that he clearly is not a weenie, and says what he honestly feels without bias (Spartyon, that is).

Being unbiased has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. It's the inconsistency on both extremes (warm than cold) that can get annoying.

Back to the actual discussion for this thread, today was perfect outside. Hung some of the Christmas lights today, more on Friday.

Can't believe Warlmart starts their black Friday sale at 10PM thursday lol

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SpartyOn

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When did I imply you said that? I was referring to your post in this thread a couple days ago where you said the long range looked bad, then today, you said that a warm forecast for December would be horribly wrong.

Being unbiased has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. It's the inconsistency on both extremes (warm than cold) that can get annoying.

Back to the actual discussion for this thread, today was perfect outside. Hung some of the Christmas lights today, more on Friday.

Can't believe Warlmart starts their black Friday sale at 10PM thursday lol

Source ?

me too.

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AppsRunner

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Source ?

me too.

Not canceling Winter!! We will get it. But the long range looks real ****ty.

Gotta give credit to RC.. Walking into a wintery snake pit with a blow torch. Ballsy! Regardless of how wrong it is. Lol

Try since the east coast got their October snowstorm.

Problem is that anytime someone does call the warm scenarios they are called trolls or "cromartie" or w/e. Its a shame to be honest. It is what it is.

Unless I'm missing something, this is what I was talking about

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His point is that ANYONE who offers a nugget from a met or weather-related expert that calls for mildness, they are called those names, even if they are not a well-known warminista. I recall it happening recently to someone other than River Card or Cromartie. People do the same things with cold forecasts, and are not called weenies unless they say it is certain to happen. I like snowy winters as much as anyone but there is a bit of a bias against people who like warm weather.

This is completely 100% not true. Obviously cold/snow lovers have a HUGE edge on this board over warmingistas, but that has nothing to do with it. Many of the cold/snow lovers will look at forecasts/patterns/etc and be realistic about things. If it looks warm, they will complain, if cold they are excited. But the select few warm trolls do this trolling all the time, often twisting words, taking things out of context, making up things, etc. They never add anything that does not do with warmth, above normal temps, below normal snow, etc etc. They often go into major hiding when rough winter weather sets in. Ive been on these weather boards for 8 years, it does not (and will not) change. Once their ridiculous claims, predictions, and forecasts end up being VERY wrong, it all goes by the wayside as everyone else is enjoying the snow, not worrying about telling one of the trolls (who are in hiding) "i told you so". Once the pattern switches and the snow melts, a troll will resurface.

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Imagine these weather boards if it stays unseasonably mild throughout the winter. yikes.png

Ive actually wondered about that. For all the "worst winter ever" comments we hear on these boards whenever a forecast busts or whatever, we have yet to experience a really bad winter on these boards. A winter where your backyard is not the jackpot, or where snowfall is near normal is NOT what Im referring too. Im talking a region-wide horrendous winter, like perhaps 1948-49. The server would crash lol. And it would all be made worse by the fact that snowfall in recent years has been so ridiculously above normal that people are getting spoiled.

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Unless I'm missing something, this is what I was talking about

If my reading interpretation is correct, saying something like "regardless of how wrong it is" can imply you do not know how wrong it is. He was just saying regardless of the degree of accuracy in the end, it was a ballsy statement. That is not contradicting himself.

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Ive actually wondered about that. For all the "worst winter ever" comments we hear on these boards whenever a forecast busts or whatever, we have yet to experience a really bad winter on these boards. A winter where your backyard is not the jackpot, or where snowfall is near normal is NOT what Im referring too. Im talking a region-wide horrendous winter, like perhaps 1948-49. The server would crash lol. And it would all be made worse by the fact that snowfall in recent years has been so ridiculously above normal that people are getting spoiled.

Or they could become silent ..

FWIW The bickering is spreading like wild fire to other regional forums and threads..hmm Met Winter must be almost here.

It will be interesting to see if the records in the Saginaw valley hold a standing chance this Friday. The MBS record stands at 60 set in 1908.

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QC NWS has chopped several degrees or more off today's high temp across much of their area because of the strong inversion. Yesterday we got stuck under a shallow stratus deck and remained in the low 40s all day. QC is expecting the stratus to hold on til late morning here again today and maybe into afternoon in nw Illinois.

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Don't think my temps have moved in over 24 hrs... low clouds are just stuck.

Uh oh....

BEYOND THIS TIME PERIOD...THERE CONTINUES TO BE VERY LITTLE CONSISTENCY. HOWEVER WITH THIS SAID...I DO LIKE THAT THE MODELS ARE STARTING TO BECOME MORE TRANSITORY WITH THEIR SYSTEM. THIS MAKES SENSE WHEN LOOKING AT THE RATHER ACTIVE WAVE PATTERN FROM AFRICA INTO THE WESTERN PACIFIC. THE GFS PATTERN ACTUALLY RESEMBLES ONE OF THE PATTERNS THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE DURING A LA NINA. ANOTHER FEATURE THAT WE WILL HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO AS WE HEAD INTO DECEMBER IS THE INTENSIFYING MADDEN JULIAN OSCILLATION /WHICH HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY FORECAST BY THE BRAZILLIAN...ECMWF...JAPANESE...AND U.S. MODEL ENSEMBLES FOR THE PAST WEEK/ THAT IS LOCATED OVER THE WESTERN INDIAN OCEAN. THIS WILL LIKELY CAUSE SOME ISSUES WITH THE MODEL RUN TO RUN CONSISTENCY AT LEAST INITIALLY. IN ADDITION...IT MAY BE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE CLIMATE FORECAST SYSTEM VERSION 2 MODEL IS SUGGESTING THAT AT LEAST THE FIRST HALF OF DECEMBER MAY END UP BEING WARMER THAN NORMAL.

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A few holes to fill, but otherwise we've made excellent progress in the last 3-4 weeks, and perhaps ahead of last year even. Not bad for an autumn that's not been favorable for cold and winter wx on our side of the globe.. :weight_lift:

23-Nov:

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23-Oct:

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I want to see these maps by Saturday

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Waiting for the fog to roll out here in the next couple of hours. Visibilty is right at a mile right now in Indy. Nonetheless, Looks to be a beautiful day around here today. Hope you all have a wonderful and happy Thanksgiving!

Thanks and hope you have a great Thanksgiving as well. :)

Now how did I know Thanksgiving day would be cloudy?

It is more often than not, at least in recent years. So why not continue the tradition...

It is funny though how it changed from sunny and clear skies overnight to solid overcast for much of the day.

Why does this post not surprise me?

lol, just kidding Powerball. Enjoy your Thanksgiving Day. :sun:

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