Guru Of Reason Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 EVV, ORD, and STL finally got their first 32º or lower min temp this morning. 27º here at 7AM. It is about time too. There were still a few bugs that needed to be killed off. Several hours below freezing, bottoming out at 29 should've done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 What was the total snow in Toronto in 1974-75? In Detroit, we saw the earliest freeze (Sep 22) and earliest snow (Oct 1) on record. January was mild with light snow here as well, but overall it was a great winter. On top of the Dec 1st storm that dropped 20" over metro-Detroit, a storm at the beginning of April dumped 20" near Flint and Saginaw. At Detroit, this was the 3rd of 7 consecutive winters with either above normal snowfall and/or snowcover. Since averages oscillate, but that was coming off the sucky 1930s-1960s period, Ill use a base of 40" for avg snowfall and 50 days for average 1"+ snowcover days. 1972-73: 45.0" snow, 38 days 1"+ snwcvr (mild with slightly above average snowfall) 1973-74: 49.2" snow, 57 days 1"+ snwcvr (near normal temps but above average snowfall and snowcover) 1974-75: 63.1" snow, 65 days 1"+ snwcvr (mild but above average snowfall and snowcover) 1975-76: 55.9" snow, 68 days 1"+ snwcvr (near normal temps but above average snowfall and snowcover) 1976-77: 43.9" snow, 67 days 1"+ snwcvr (brutally cold, above average snowcover) 1977-78: 61.7" snow, 91 days 1"+ snwcvr (brutally cold, above average snowfall and snowcover) 1978-79: 35.6" snow, 60 days 1"+ snwcvr (brutally cold, above average snowcover) total snow for Toronto that winter was 124.5 cm (don't quite know what that would be in inches). In Ottawa there was 227cm in total. http://weatherintoronto.blogspot.com/p/snowfall-averages.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I'm hearing the new Euro weeklies are showing a mild first half of December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 total snow for Toronto that winter was 124.5 cm (don't quite know what that would be in inches). In Ottawa there was 227cm in total. http://weatherintoro...l-averages.html That would be 49 inches for Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I'm hearing the new Euro weeklies are showing a mild first half of December. lol. those mean nothing! They are a throw of the dice. But I will say the GFS sure sucks past its 144 threshold. The fantasy torch for Thanksgiving week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 The Euro is advertising a few days of boring zonal flow for the next 10 days, although a weak trough finally enters the west coast by D10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 The Euro is advertising a few days of boring zonal flow for the next 10 days, although a weak trough finally enters the west coast by D10. Pattern is **** for a while. Cold is locked up north. GFS seems too chilly with next weeks 850s also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Pattern is **** for a while. Cold is locked up north. GFS seems too chilly with next weeks 850s also. Keep it up there, its still only November 11th.. When december comes let er rip and let it all drain down into the CONUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Fire up the grill for Thanksgiving. Shorts, flip-flops, and cries on this BB that winter is cancelled. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Keep it up there, its still only November 11th.. When december comes let er rip and let it all drain down into the CONUS! Agree.. Early cold outbreak in Nov means a mild Winter. The Good news its a lot of cold air banked up. Its coming just relax and when it comes its parked here. Expect it after the 22-26th timeframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Sunday looks to be another windy day in the MI/OH/IN region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm hearing the new Euro weeklies are showing a mild first half of December. Not too surprising. Winter should kick in by the third week of December though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Sunday looks to be another windy day in the MI/OH/IN region Not good for the lions since they don't have a run game . Good to see the last storm blow down the rest of the leaves. It was getting annoying seeing them so late into fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Tomorrow looks toasty...Decent warming and a kick butt LLJ of 50-60kts will be entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Shorts, flip-flops, and cries on this BB that winter is cancelled. Can't wait. Tropical should dig a Winter Cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 December 1st is 55 degrees? Winter cancel, bring back out the bikinis. That said, it is time for mother nature to cancel this pattern asap. Eh she can run with it awhile longer. I don't mind the ups and downs. Seeds of change in the last week of Nov/first week of Dec, full throttle winter by mid Dec. Though I don't know/think that it will necessarily happen that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Sunday looks to be another windy day in the MI/OH/IN region CLE already mentioning 50mph gusts this weekend... could possibly tear off all the leaves left on trees this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 The first half of tomorrow looks sunny and beautiful. I think we could hit 60 if we're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Pattern is **** for a while. Cold is locked up north. GFS seems too chilly with next weeks 850s also. 1931-32, 2001-2002 redux here we come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Eh she can run with it awhile longer. I don't mind the ups and downs. Seeds of change in the last week of Nov/first week of Dec, full throttle winter by mid Dec. Though I don't know/think that it will necessarily happen that way... I think so many have forgotten climo due to being spoiled with winters recently. Many of the storied winters of years past didnt get going until mid-late December. And on the flip-side, people here view 2005-06 as such a non-winter yet we were inundated with snow from Thanksgiving to Christmas (and a very mild Jan-Mar). Its like whatever happens before Christmas gets lost in peoples minds when looking BACK on a winter, yet when looking AHEAD to a winter that is on the doorstep, many have a do or die attitude if all is not cold and wintry by late Nov or early Dec. That said, I DEFINITELY want winter to hit by late November, but if it doesnt, it is NOT winter cancel. Im leaving for a Carribean cruise tomorrow, so talk to you all Nov 21st! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I think so many have forgotten climo due to being spoiled with winters recently. Many of the storied winters of years past didnt get going until mid-late December. And on the flip-side, people here view 2005-06 as such a non-winter yet we were inundated with snow from Thanksgiving to Christmas (and a very mild Jan-Mar). Its like whatever happens before Christmas gets lost in peoples minds when looking BACK on a winter, yet when looking AHEAD to a winter that is on the doorstep, many have a do or die attitude if all is not cold and wintry by late Nov or early Dec. That said, I DEFINITELY want winter to hit by late November, but if it doesnt, it is NOT winter cancel. Im leaving for a Carribean cruise tomorrow, so talk to you all Nov 21st! Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Thursday, November 10th: Hi: 39F Lo: 31F Overall Sky Conditions: Partly Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 27MPH Rainfall: 0.05" Snowfall: 0.4" Friday, November 11th: Hi: 45F Lo: 29F Overall Sky Conditions: Partly Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 11MPH Rainfall: 0.00" Snowfall: 0.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Well, this week will be pretty seasonable/dry, but Thanksgiving Week looks to get a bit more active based on the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I think so many have forgotten climo due to being spoiled with winters recently. Many of the storied winters of years past didnt get going until mid-late December. And on the flip-side, people here view 2005-06 as such a non-winter yet we were inundated with snow from Thanksgiving to Christmas (and a very mild Jan-Mar). Its like whatever happens before Christmas gets lost in peoples minds when looking BACK on a winter, yet when looking AHEAD to a winter that is on the doorstep, many have a do or die attitude if all is not cold and wintry by late Nov or early Dec. That said, I DEFINITELY want winter to hit by late November, but if it doesnt, it is NOT winter cancel. Im leaving for a Carribean cruise tomorrow, so talk to you all Nov 21st! I think warmer Novembers is a good thing but thats me. I think people were so hyped up from the winter outlook forecasts by different meteorologist that most said cold and very snowy. I blame media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Eh she can run with it awhile longer. I don't mind the ups and downs. Seeds of change in the last week of Nov/first week of Dec, full throttle winter by mid Dec. Though I don't know/think that it will necessarily happen that way... I think so many have forgotten climo due to being spoiled with winters recently. Many of the storied winters of years past didnt get going until mid-late December. And on the flip-side, people here view 2005-06 as such a non-winter yet we were inundated with snow from Thanksgiving to Christmas (and a very mild Jan-Mar). Its like whatever happens before Christmas gets lost in peoples minds when looking BACK on a winter, yet when looking AHEAD to a winter that is on the doorstep, many have a do or die attitude if all is not cold and wintry by late Nov or early Dec. That said, I DEFINITELY want winter to hit by late November, but if it doesnt, it is NOT winter cancel. Im leaving for a Carribean cruise tomorrow, so talk to you all Nov 21st! I was just catching up on my reading here and was about to post thoughts similar to Josh's. I wouldn't mind if we have a cromartie torch until mid December as long as the rest of the winter is cold and snowy. People wouldn't even remember that the first 2 weeks of met winter was warm. I guess that my personal preference is to have a shorter, more intense winter over a longer drawn-out, crap mix of winter/torch. In the menatime, I am going to enjoy my sunny and 60 today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I think so many have forgotten climo due to being spoiled with winters recently. Many of the storied winters of years past didnt get going until mid-late December. And on the flip-side, people here view 2005-06 as such a non-winter yet we were inundated with snow from Thanksgiving to Christmas (and a very mild Jan-Mar). Its like whatever happens before Christmas gets lost in peoples minds when looking BACK on a winter, yet when looking AHEAD to a winter that is on the doorstep, many have a do or die attitude if all is not cold and wintry by late Nov or early Dec. That said, I DEFINITELY want winter to hit by late November, but if it doesnt, it is NOT winter cancel. Im leaving for a Carribean cruise tomorrow, so talk to you all Nov 21st! I was just catching up on my reading here and was about to post thoughts similar to Josh's. I wouldn't mind if we have a cromartie torch until mid December as long as the rest of the winter is cold and snowy. People wouldn't even remember that the first 2 weeks of met winter was warm. I guess that my personal preference is to have a shorter, more intense winter over a longer drawn-out, crap mix of winter/torch. In the menatime, I am going to enjoy my sunny and 60 today! We're pretty much on the same page. Anyway, last November was essentially a torch here and winter turned out just fine. Not that it guarantees anything for this winter... And speaking of last November, today was the last day of a fairly notable 5-day warm stretch here (70, 73, 74, 76, 74). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 1931-32, 2001-2002 redux here we come Trolln hard. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I think so many have forgotten climo due to being spoiled with winters recently. Many of the storied winters of years past didnt get going until mid-late December. And on the flip-side, people here view 2005-06 as such a non-winter yet we were inundated with snow from Thanksgiving to Christmas (and a very mild Jan-Mar). Its like whatever happens before Christmas gets lost in peoples minds when looking BACK on a winter, yet when looking AHEAD to a winter that is on the doorstep, many have a do or die attitude if all is not cold and wintry by late Nov or early Dec. That said, I DEFINITELY want winter to hit by late November, but if it doesnt, it is NOT winter cancel. Im leaving for a Carribean cruise tomorrow, so talk to you all Nov 21st! Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Tropical should dig a Winter Cancel. 2nd day driving to work with snow covered ground. Drive home yesterday looked like a great imitation of a sunny February evening. Wish I had a photo for everyone in the WINTER CANCEL??? zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Looks warm for foreseeable future. Brown Christmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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