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SNE Late October Obs/Banter


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37/35 Nice day on tap. Finally get some yard work done.

So Irene wiped out the Greenfield public golf course in August and I just heard that yesterday the Greenfield Country Club burned to the ground.

Total loss and many members had their equipment stored there.

Yeah--I had read that. Do they know what caused the fire?

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Taken literally...

A little snow here after a flip from rain. Maybe ending as some flakes at MHT. The higher els of VT/NH get a solid thump.

Yep... may be interesting if for us if it shifts 100 miles or so southward...

I'm interested to see what the GFS does with that second vortmax

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Yea man! Congrats, you guys must be itching up there big time :weight_lift:

Haha no congrats needed. I still think this has a better shot of winding up west than out to sea. Troughs have been ending up west come verification time but maybe we will get lucky. I find it hard to believe that after all this time being warm the cold is magically just going to push right through with the front ending up in the mid-Atlantic like GGEM and Euro.

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Boy the GFS is cold around day 7, however, it shoves that second vortmax SE and never undergoes any development. If it does trend the other way, there is plenty of cold air to support snows depending on how close the low gets. Will's post after the Euro pretty much described the situation.

More Snow Showers for MTNS day 7-8 on GFS... Might be an early start to ski season.

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Yeah--108 to 114 look pretty tasty from Litcthfield County-FIT and points NW of that..

So much for sun today. Hating the fact I need to drive to Geneva, NY this afternoon for an a.m. meeting. Oh, well. Will be back home tomorrow nighit.

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Looks like a big hit for my old stomping grounds, Middlebury. Champlain Valley gets smoked, although the warm lakeshore could present problems.

Storm is still a bit too much of a coast hugger for SW NH on the 12z GFS; it looks like rain to snow for the Monadnocks. Definitely just a coating type of event as currently modeled however, although a shift further off the coast would put us in a solid advisory snowfall. I tend to agree with Powderfreak, nonetheless, that the storm probably ends up further west given the lack of blocking downstream (+NAO) and the seasonal tendency which has been for troughs to verify further west than expected.

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Looks like a big hit for my old stomping grounds, Middlebury. Champlain Valley gets smoked, although the warm lakeshore could present problems.

Storm is still a bit too much of a coast hugger for SW NH on the 12z GFS; it looks like rain to snow for the Monadnocks. Definitely just a coating type of event as currently modeled however, although a shift further off the coast would put us in a solid advisory snowfall. I tend to agree with Powderfreak, nonetheless, that the storm probably ends up further west given the lack of blocking downstream (+NAO) and the seasonal tendency which has been for troughs to verify further west than expected.

It is enjoyable to follow something in the final week of October--even if it's way too soon to get excited/expectant about anythinng. IF (big if) snow does become a signifcant player in p-type, I think ground temps will preclude much in the way of accumulation.

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Looks like a big hit for my old stomping grounds, Middlebury. Champlain Valley gets smoked, although the warm lakeshore could present problems.

Storm is still a bit too much of a coast hugger for SW NH on the 12z GFS; it looks like rain to snow for the Monadnocks. Definitely just a coating type of event as currently modeled however, although a shift further off the coast would put us in a solid advisory snowfall. I tend to agree with Powderfreak, nonetheless, that the storm probably ends up further west given the lack of blocking downstream (+NAO) and the seasonal tendency which has been for troughs to verify further west than expected.

That first storm around day 5 isn't really a coastal storm though as it passes through NE... its more of an overrunning event. The coastal low doesn't really get going until its past Maine where then NS gets smoked. It wouldn't take much to slide that thing a little more South giving us some Flakes/Coating to look at next weekend. Probably the last week of golf up here :thumbsdown: but that yields :snowman:

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This (as of recent model runs ) reminds me of a storm a couple years back that occured around this time that was heavily impacted by dynamic cooling...all the mets were calling for a few flakes mixing in at the end, but instead, hvy precip rates cooled the BL from Portland to ORH to PYM (east of that line), and we got some decent snows out of that....this might be the case further north for this event

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This (as of recent model runs ) reminds me of a storm a couple years back that occured around this time that was heavily impacted by dynamic cooling...all the mets were calling for a few flakes mixing in at the end, but instead, hvy precip rates cooled the BL from Portland to ORH to PYM (east of that line), and we got some decent snows out of that....this might be the case further north for this event

October 18 2009? That was when Foxboro got that freak 3" or so.

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This (as of recent model runs ) reminds me of a storm a couple years back that occured around this time that was heavily impacted by dynamic cooling...all the mets were calling for a few flakes mixing in at the end, but instead, hvy precip rates cooled the BL from Portland to ORH to PYM (east of that line), and we got some decent snows out of that....this might be the case further north for this event

Yeah, this will be 10 days later then that, though. 10 days is huge when we are talking about late October.

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