Ginx snewx Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 OK for those of us farther east, here are the stats for BOS when less than 5 inches fell during the month: Year/Dec Total/Seasonal Total 1936 / 0.7 / 8.2 1937 / 4.6 / 35.8 1938 / 1.3 / 38.5 1940 / 4.5 / 39.7 1941 / 0.2 / 29.5 1943 / 0.3 / 27.2 1946 / 4.9 / 19.4 1949 / 2.4 / 32.0 1950 / 2.7 / 29.7 1952 / 2.4 / 29.8 1953 / 0.0 / 23.6 1955 / 1.8 / 60.9 1957 / 0.0 / 44.7 1958 / 4.6 / 34.1 1965 / 2.3 / 44.1 1972 / 3.3 / 10.3 1973 / 0.0 / 36.9 1974 / 3.6 / 27.6 1979 / 0.4 / 12.7 1983 / 2.6 / 43.0 1984 / 3.7 / 26.6 1985 / 1.3 / 18.1 1986 / 3.4 / 42.5 1988 / 3.7 / 15.5 1990 / 1.2 / 19.1 1995 / 1.5 / 14.9 1998 / 0.8 / 36.4 1999 / 0.0 / 22.4 2000 / 4.5 / 44.2 2006 / 0.8 / 17.1 Dec Avg 7.8 Seasonal Avg 42.3 You guys really really need to update your website snow stats for annual etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Since the 2004-05 season, I've averaged 32.5 inches in Old Lyme (about 2 miles from the Sound), but of course that is skewed by the 59.4 inches in the great 2004-05 season. Groton also averaged 29.2" over that period, but they are missing all of winter 05-06, March 05, March '10, and December '09. Half the missing months fall in the last 6 years... the data is much more complete before that although that says nothing for measurement problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Groton also averaged 29.2" over that period, but they are missing all of winter 05-06, March 05, March '10, and December '09. Half the missing months fall in the last 6 years... the data is much more complete before that although that says nothing for measurement problems. That's pretty close to my average despite the missing data and being 20 miles west. March '05 had a lot of nickel and dime events, but they added up to nearly 10 inches. March '10 there was basically no snow, so no loss there, and winter 05-06 was pretty average if not slightly below normal. As far as measurement problems, I think a lot of the co-op observers are pretty dedicated. You'd have to be to do it in the first place I would think. I know the guy that does BDR's snowfall seems to be on top of it during events as you frequently see his totals updated on the PNS reports. I've looked at some of the old Hartford handwritten co-op forms that haven't been digitized, and even back in the 1890s the observers were good about noting the start and end times of precipitation, types of weather that day, wind direction and speed three times daily, and other atmospheric phenomena beyond just daily highs and lows. You even see where they would measure precipitation multiple times per day and at least attempt to keep good calendar day records. Pretty neat that you can go and look at the original forms that far back. I could see some of the co-ops nowadays that are at waste treatment plants and commercial places where they probably aren't very careful and measurements are made by multiple people that don't have much interest, but if it's something in a residential setting, I'd imagine you have to be committed to accurate record keeping to even bother volunteering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbosch Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 D'oh And this for a year where December was the best time to cash in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 So...who else is going to finish the month with a trace of snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Well, I am at 7" for the month so I can't complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Well, I am at 7" for the month so I can't complain. Not bad...and it looks like you'll get some more with this storm. Longitude FTW, where I live FTL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I'm up to 5.5" for the month doesn't look like I'll even be able to reach double digits. Epic epic fail. I can't believe how many missed opportunities there were. Just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Could the Cape get over 2' this month?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Could the Cape get over 2' this month?? Better question, can ORH come in with < 20" for the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I'm up to 5.5" for the month doesn't look like I'll even be able to reach double digits. Epic epic fail. I can't believe how many missed opportunities there were. Just ridiculous. What does your area average for the month of December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Better question, can ORH come in with < 20" for the season? I highly doubt that..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I highly doubt that..lol. It would be the all time record if it did happen. Lowest is 21.2" in 1954-1955 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 It would be the all time record if it did happen. Lowest is 21.2" in 1954-1955 Hmmm..was that a strong Nina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Hmmm..was that a strong Nina? No, it was a low end moderate Nina. It was actually only one of two terrible Ninas here during that cold phase of the PAC...the other being '73-'74. All the rest were at or above avg for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Talk of lowest record snowfalls seasonally for ORH and its possibilities in late December near X-Mas of a winter? That can't be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 No, it was a low end moderate Nina. It was actually only one of two terrible Ninas here during that cold phase of the PAC...the other being '73-'74. All the rest were at or above avg for snow. Well maybe being pretty far below average is more realistic. Something in the 30-35" range? We'll see...maybe January will get us into a gradient pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Well maybe being pretty far below average is more realistic. Something in the 30-35" range? We'll see...maybe January will get us into a gradient pattern. It h as to be ridiculously bad to even think about it (something less than 30")...and probably not until mid February at the earliest. '06-'07 had 5" on the season on February 1st and finished with 49.7" officially. It can change quick with a good month. Heck, if this storm hits eastern half of SNE pretty hard we get 8-10" out of it, then its really not that strange of a December...a tad light maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 coming in with a stout 0.9 for the month of December!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 It h as to be ridiculously bad to even think about it (something less than 30")...and probably not until mid February at the earliest. '06-'07 had 5" on the season on February 1st and finished with 49.7" officially. It can change quick with a good month. Heck, if this storm hits eastern half of SNE pretty hard we get 8-10" out of it, then its really not that strange of a December...a tad light maybe. Yeah true I was sort of half joking anyway. I mean, if it is warm in January and February, you guys can still do well in the snowfall department during the interwoven cold periods. Below normal obviously doesn't equal snow (look at this month). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 What does your area average for the month of December? Concord, NH averages 13.7" Based on that, MBY probably averages 16" to 17" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 good post... NYC snowfall during La Nina or near La Nina years...December snowfall and seasonal snowfall... totals for NYC,,, year.......Dec......Season... 1949......1.1"........13.8" 1950......3.8"........11.6" 1954......0.1"........11.5" 1955......4.3"........33.5" includes Nov... 1956......0.9"........21.9" 1961......7.7"........18.1" 1962......4.5"........16.3" 1964......3.1"........24.4" 1966......9.1"........51.5" 1967......8.5"........19.5" includes Nov. 1970......2.4"........15.5" 1971........T..........22.9" 1973......2.8"........23.5" 1974......0.2"........13.1" 1975......2.3"........17.3" 1984......5.5"........24.1" 1985......0.9"........13.0" 1988......0.3"..........8.1" 1995....13.5"........75.6" includes Nov. 1998......2.0"........12.7" 1999........T..........16.3" 2000....13.4"........35.0" 2005......9.7"........40.0" 2007......2.9"........11.9" 2008......6.0"........27.6" 1870- 2009......5.4"........28.3" only five seasons were over the long term average...11 seasons were over 20"... So far this December NYC has gotten 0.1"... years when there was... 9" plus...4 of 4 above average... 8" plus...4 of 5 seasons above average... 6" plus...4 of 7 seasons above average...5 of 7 above 20" less than 6"...1 of 18 was above average...7 of 18 above 20" 3" plus...5 of 12 above average...8 of 12 above 20" less than 3"...0 of 13 above average... 2 of 13 above 20" 1" plus...6 of 18 above...9 of 18 above 20" less than 1"...0 of 7...2 of 7 above 20" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 good post... NYC snowfall during La Nina or near La Nina years...December snowfall and seasonal snowfall... totals for NYC,,, year.......Dec......Season... 1949......1.1"........13.8" 1950......3.8"........11.6" 1954......0.1"........11.5" 1955......4.3"........33.5" includes Nov... 1956......0.9"........21.9" 1961......7.7"........18.1" 1962......4.5"........16.3" 1964......3.1"........24.4" 1966......9.1"........51.5" 1967......8.5"........19.5" includes Nov. 1970......2.4"........15.5" 1971........T..........22.9" 1973......2.8"........23.5" 1974......0.2"........13.1" 1975......2.3"........17.3" 1984......5.5"........24.1" 1985......0.9"........13.0" 1988......0.3"..........8.1" 1995....13.5"........75.6" includes Nov. 1998......2.0"........12.7" 1999........T..........16.3" 2000....13.4"........35.0" 2005......9.7"........40.0" 2007......2.9"........11.9" 2008......6.0"........27.6" 1870- 2009......5.4"........28.3" only five seasons were over the long term average...11 seasons were over 20"... So far this December NYC has gotten 0.1"... years when there was... 9" plus...4 of 4 above average... 8" plus...4 of 5 seasons above average... 6" plus...4 of 7 seasons above average...5 of 7 above 20" less than 6"...1 of 18 was above average...7 of 18 above 20" 3" plus...5 of 12 above average...8 of 12 above 20" less than 3"...0 of 13 above average... 2 of 13 above 20" 1" plus...6 of 18 above...9 of 18 above 20" less than 1"...0 of 7...2 of 7 above 20" Interesting...a couple of good recoveries there with 1956 and 1971...hopefully this year can do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 bump Bumpier bump bump bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 4TH December in a row of above normal snow at Logan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 This Nina isn't even playing by the rules right now anyway...so I think analogs will be tough to use. Its also still relatively early in this month. If we get a 10" snowstorm at some point in the next 3 weeks, then we can throw out all the bad December stats. Bumpier bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 PHAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 it's very very important LOL i wish i tried harder to take a measurement today but the parts that i drove by on way in were on the top of a hill and blown to bits. i'm gonna walk the dog in a protected area and see what i can get. keeping in mind there was over an inch of wetter snow at the bottom. my best guess is 8-12. let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 So now we can all agree that above normal snowfall means we're going to the races? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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