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coldest October days


uncle W

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No temperatures below 35 since 1992...Where have all the cold October days gone?...The sixties and seventies produced many days freezing or below...Coldest temperature was 28 on 10/27/1936...

Coldest October days...

max...min...date...

45......33......10/29/2011

51......36......10/24/2003

44......37......10/30/2002

46......36......10/29/2000

51......34......10/20/1992

48......31......10/31/1988

42......29......10/27/1976

45......29......10/28/1976

50......31......10/31/1975

48......32......10/21/1974

44......31......10/20/1974

49......32......10/19/1974

48......32......10/20/1972

51......31......10/24/1969

43......32......10/23/1969

48......32......10/29/1965

53......33......10/24/1964

39......34......10/26/1962

47......33......10/20/1952

51......30......10/22/1940

45......30......10/19/1940

43......28......10/27/1936

49......32......10/26/1933

54......32......10/29/1933

43......31......10/29/1925

38......31......10/30/1925

44......29......10/31/1925

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Not even a question....UHI

When you add millions of cars, buildings, planes, etc, things tend to heat up.

The city has over 8 million people now, there were barely 7 million in 1970...and fewer were using heat producing objects with such frequency as we do today.

To be honest, I've started to question whether KNYC is a reliable station, UHI has done too much

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Not even a question....UHI

When you add millions of cars, buildings, planes, etc, things tend to heat up.

The city has over 8 million people now, there were barely 7 million in 1970...and fewer were using heat producing objects with such frequency as we do today.

To be honest, I've started to question whether KNYC is a reliable station, UHI has done too much

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Pretty compelling data - I'm sure a statistical analysis would show a major increase in the annual temperature difference over time. Thanks for sharing...

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Pretty compelling data - I'm sure a statistical analysis would show a major increase in the annual temperature difference over time. Thanks for sharing...

Looking at that chart makes me wonder if West Point changed its measurement location about 1880. Prior to then they were quite close to NYC and sometimes came in milder, not what I'd expect given their latitude. Maybe they switched from feet-in-Hudson to the west edge of The Plain.

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Looking at that chart makes me wonder if West Point changed its measurement location about 1880. Prior to then they were quite close to NYC and sometimes came in milder, not what I'd expect given their latitude. Maybe they switched from feet-in-Hudson to the west edge of The Plain.

The point is that West Point has stayed steady over the past 100 with a few up and down dips, while NYC has been so badly affected by UHI.

Realistically, any climate data now from NYC cannot be compared to previous temps, UHI is too strong

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Not even a question....UHI

When you add millions of cars, buildings, planes, etc, things tend to heat up.

The city has over 8 million people now, there were barely 7 million in 1970...and fewer were using heat producing objects with such frequency as we do today.

To be honest, I've started to question whether KNYC is a reliable station, UHI has done too much

The effcts of the NYC UHI haven't changed much since the early 1900s.

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There was a building boom in the 1890's, 1920's and early thirties and the 70's...There was a sharp rise in average temperatures during the 1890's, 1930's and 1980's...

ten yr ave.temp....highest.....lowest.

1870's.........51.8..........53.6.........49.4

1880's.........51.6..........53.2.........49.3

1890's.........52.9..........54.6.........50.4

1900's.........53.1..........55.0.........50.7

1910's.........53.0..........55.0.........50.7

1920's.........53.1..........54.9.........51.2

1930's.........54.4..........55.8.........53.0

1940's.........54.3..........56.9.........51.9

1950's.........54.8..........57.0.........52.5

1960's.........54.2..........55.1.........53.0

1970's.........54.6..........56.1.........53.0

1980's.........55.1..........56.0.........54.0

1990's.........55.6..........57.2.........53.7

2000's.........55.1..........56.8.........53.4

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1/3 of the warming in NYC since 1900 is attributed to UHI.

http://www.mendeley....time-and-space/

Remove that 1/3 and NYC temperature rise is close to Albany but still about .05 more of a decade warming rate.

NYC .37 degree decade rise

ALB .20 degree decade rise

NYC

ALB

Still a decent amount, .33 is nothing to sneeze at especially when you're trying to make some long term conclusions.

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Still a decent amount, .33 is nothing to sneeze at especially when you're trying to make some long term conclusions.

The greatest rate of overall temperature rise is in February with .58 degree per decade.

The slowest rate is in October with a .09 degree per decade rise.

February

October

The the annual rate of increase per decade is just a little ahead of Portland, Maine.

Portland

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Not even a question....UHI

When you add millions of cars, buildings, planes, etc, things tend to heat up.

The city has over 8 million people now, there were barely 7 million in 1970...and fewer were using heat producing objects with such frequency as we do today.

To be honest, I've started to question whether KNYC is a reliable station, UHI has done too much

post-519-0-87018700-1319023847.gif

These graphs say it all; Al Gore, anywhere?
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These graphs say it all; Al Gore, anywhere?

For the month of October, the temperatures have actually held fairly steady over the years in NYC.

I guess that's why we can still set a monthly snowfall record so early in the season and beat a

record from the 1920's.

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