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Oct Banter/Obs IV...........


Mr Torchey

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Not necessarily...I mean it all comes down to track. What I mean is that a euro solution that phases a tropical system and manages to bring snow to parts of New England is a pretty rare thing. Snow occuring in late October isn't necessarily rare, but that euro depiction is.

I couldn't even imagine what tropical snows look like.. 4-5"/hr?

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Enough severe talk. We had one severe wx event this summer that one person missed hanging up numbers at a co-ed wheelchair softball game.

It's cold and snow season now. ryan's winter snowfall forecast already in peril?

That was harsh

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Enough severe talk. We had one severe wx event this summer that one person missed hanging up numbers at a co-ed wheelchair softball game.

It's cold and snow season now. ryan's winter snowfall forecast already in peril?

After I do a little bit of math here I'll tell you whether or not it stunk.

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After I do a little bit of math here I'll tell you whether or not it stunk.

It was a good season for SNE standards...especially earlier on. The June 1 event where you were keepin score at a senior citizens shuffleboard tourney was the best in many years.

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Well I just did CT/MA and as usual Kevin is incorrect. The SPC has a total of 71 severe weather reports for CT confirmed so far in 2011. In 2008 I did a little project compiling all severe weather reports for each Northeast state (13 states) and I broke the data down into two sets; Doppler radar ERA and pre-Doppler radar ERA. Whoever was at the conference in DC that year may remember my lightning talk on this.

Anyways from this I calculated what the yearly average for severe weather reports was. For CT the Doppler ERA average for severe weather reports if 57.5 (Doppler ERA data is from 1993-2007...I haven't included 2008-2010 yet). So going by this it was slightly above average for reports.

For MA the average is 110 and they have had 149 reports so slightly higher than average in MA which makes sense b/c they actually had more in the way of storms then we did here in CT.

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Well I just did CT/MA and as usual Kevin is incorrect. The SPC has a total of 71 severe weather reports for CT confirmed so far in 2011. In 2008 I did a little project compiling all severe weather reports for each Northeast state (13 states) and I broke the data down into two sets; Doppler radar ERA and pre-Doppler radar ERA. Whoever was at the conference in DC that year may remember my lightning talk on this.

Anyways from this I calculated what the yearly average for severe weather reports was. For CT the Doppler ERA average for severe weather reports if 57.5 (Doppler ERA data is from 1993-2007...I haven't included 2008-2010 yet). So going by this it was slightly above average for reports.

For MA the average is 110 and they have had 149 reports so slightly higher than average in MA which makes sense b/c they actually had more in the way of storms then we did here in CT.

Every year will see more and more reports. That doesn't mean we had more severe wx, but with technology and ever increasing spotter network..you'll see this.

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Not necessarily...I mean it all comes down to track. What I mean is that a euro solution that phases a tropical system and manages to bring snow to parts of New England is a pretty rare thing. Snow occuring in late October isn't necessarily rare, but that euro depiction is.

Wilma in October 2005 comes to mind. Tropical connection brought 2-3 feet of snow to the Greens above 2,000ft in 2005. Killington had like 80 trails opened in late October because of that. It was like 3 feet of paste covering everything. Moisture train up the east coast into barely sub 0C H85 temps. Isothermal 2-4" QPF bomb from like 2,000ft to 5,000ft.

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Every year will see more and more reports. That doesn't mean we had more severe wx, but with technology and ever increasing spotter network..you'll see this.

Yeah that is a major flaw in this data...when I was working on this I was also going to try to also get skywarn spotter numbers from each NWS station if I could as well as how many reports come via HAM radio and such.

Not really sure though how you could really gauge how active a season was or not...go by number of t'storm days I guess? Or days with severe wx reports? This actually would probably be a more accurate depiction of what we're arguing about.

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there were no big organized events except for june... and even that was over a relatively small area

This is true...we never really had a widespread organized event although I think June 1st could be considered not...sure the tornadic activity was confined to MA and a portion of NH. it was more organized from central to northern New England.

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Yeah that is a major flaw in this data...when I was working on this I was also going to try to also get skywarn spotter numbers from each NWS station if I could as well as how many reports come via HAM radio and such.

Not really sure though how you could really gauge how active a season was or not...go by number of t'storm days I guess? Or days with severe wx reports? This actually would probably be a more accurate depiction of what we're arguing about.

Well I hate the fact that every termite infested limb that is knocked down gets reported. Tough to get an actual report of svr winds as they either have to hit an ASOS/AWOS perfectly, or someone's Davis mounted near a forest. We know they probably occurred in an area..but it can be tough to get actual verification. Hail is obviously much easier to verify.

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Well I just did CT/MA and as usual Kevin is incorrect. The SPC has a total of 71 severe weather reports for CT confirmed so far in 2011. In 2008 I did a little project compiling all severe weather reports for each Northeast state (13 states) and I broke the data down into two sets; Doppler radar ERA and pre-Doppler radar ERA. Whoever was at the conference in DC that year may remember my lightning talk on this.

Anyways from this I calculated what the yearly average for severe weather reports was. For CT the Doppler ERA average for severe weather reports if 57.5 (Doppler ERA data is from 1993-2007...I haven't included 2008-2010 yet). So going by this it was slightly above average for reports.

For MA the average is 110 and they have had 149 reports so slightly higher than average in MA which makes sense b/c they actually had more in the way of storms then we did here in CT.

Total total PHAIL

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