CoastalWx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Carbon copy of last year. Only we probably won't have the blocking as last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Only we probably won't have the blocking as last year. Time will tell, as it stands the pattern is very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Time will tell, as it stands the pattern is very similar. I've heard some people talk about the similarities between '08-'09. Even Dec '08 was almost 1F above normal and we still did well. I'm not so sure on a cold December, but as we know..it doesn't have to be very cold to get snow. I think we'll still have blocking, but just nothing like last year. But, who knows...time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Cold air advection is already moving in from the sw just off the deck, so areas like CT will hold in check. Probably a stupid question, but what do you mean by cold air advection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I've heard some people talk about the similarities between '08-'09. Even Dec '08 was almost 1F above normal and we still did well. I'm not so sure on a cold December, but as we know..it doesn't have to be very cold to get snow. I think we'll still have blocking, but just nothing like last year. But, who knows...time will tell. Last Sept and This Sept were pretty similar. The evolution of Oct is yet to be determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Probably a stupid question, but what do you mean by cold air advection? It just describes the process of cold air moving into the region. To advect something is to take that quantity from one area, and move it into another area. In meteorology, we describe airmasses moving into the region as being advected in. So when you hear the guy on TV say cold air is moving into the region, he means cold air advection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Last Sept and This Sept were pretty similar. The evolution of Oct is yet to be determined. Well in the last few years we had good blocking develop in later November. It weakened in Dec '08 with the NAO being + before a return of blocking later in the month. We know how Jan '09 went. We'll see about this year. It's not just the NAO region...we should look at the NPAC too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well in the last few years we had good blocking develop in later November. It weakened in Dec '08 with the NAO being + before a return of blocking later in the month. We know how Jan '09 went. We'll see about this year. It's not just the NAO region...we should look at the NPAC too. The thing I do not like about the 08/09 comparison is 08 July - Sept was cold nationwide while the similarities of 10 and 11 are close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 WOW Goodmorning SNE 70/63 at 737 am INTERSTELLAR MEGA DEATH TORCH as temps rose 10 degrees overnight, this is just incredible and at least interesting unbearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 It just describes the process of cold air moving into the region. To advect something is to take that quantity from one area, and move it into another area. In meteorology, we describe airmasses moving into the region as being advected in. So when you hear the guy on TV say cold air is moving into the region, he means cold air advection. Great explanation...thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 The thing I do not like about the 08/09 comparison is 08 July - Sept was cold nationwide while the similarities of 10 and 11 are close. In this country the current wx is different, but other things like ENSO, PDO/AMO are similar. Like with any analogs, it doesn't have to work out like that, but there are similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 unbearable. After a while you grow numb to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 CAD has actually held up here well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well in the last few years we had good blocking develop in later November. It weakened in Dec '08 with the NAO being + before a return of blocking later in the month. We know how Jan '09 went. We'll see about this year. It's not just the NAO region...we should look at the NPAC too. Npac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Joe is out of control. Low 50's fog and drizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 unbearable. True but I will give him the fact that it actually has been well above normal for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Last Sept and This Sept were pretty similar. The evolution of Oct is yet to be determined. Just like last year but a little further north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 It just describes the process of cold air moving into the region. To advect something is to take that quantity from one area, and move it into another area. In meteorology, we describe airmasses moving into the region as being advected in. So when you hear the guy on TV say cold air is moving into the region, he means cold air advection. Good explanation Scott. I kind of think we should have a thread somewhere (maybe in the main forum) designated for "Meteorology 101" where people can ask questions and the pros can answer them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Off topic but Joe Bastardi will be speaking at the southern New England weather conference Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 winds really pickup here...very mild at the moment...67 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Off topic but Joe Bastardi will be speaking at the southern New England weather conference Saturday Hopefully he will be explained why his hurricane forecast busted so badly but he will probably talk about anti-global warming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Either way it would be interesting to see what he has to say Hopefully he will be explained why his hurricane forecast busted so badly but he will probably talk about anti-global warming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Joe is out of control. Low 50's fog and drizzle. 54/53 steady RA- all morning. Lucky us. Entertaining the baby is a lot easier when we can go outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Hopefully he will be explained why his hurricane forecast busted so badly but he will probably talk about anti-global warming He should stick to what he is knowledgeable about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Good explanation Scott. I kind of think we should have a thread somewhere (maybe in the main forum) designated for "Meteorology 101" where people can ask questions and the pros can answer them. Actually, we do. It's the one am19PSU started called Ask a promet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 just checked the rain gauge and looks like another .3" fell overnight and this morning bringing event total to just a hair under .8" What were the highest totals in SNE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Actually, we do. It's the one am19PSU started called Ask a promet. http://www.americanw...t/page__st__420 Ah okay, it was kind of buried so I guess I didn't notice it at first. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 just checked the rain gauge and looks like another .3" fell overnight and this morning bringing event total to just a hair under .8" What were the highest totals in SNE? EWB got 2.22". I think parts of that area had a little more than that. PYM got 2.04" It became more prolonged. Even up until the day before it seemed like it would be more of a short duration event and I also thought the rain would be heavier in parts of the area, but the low remained a little more disjointed down the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 just checked the rain gauge and looks like another .3" fell overnight and this morning bringing event total to just a hair under .8" What were the highest totals in SNE? That poster on ACK had almost 3" I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHUB Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 got some good rain overnight, heavy enough to wake me up seemed like 2 bands came through after 1am have to check the radar though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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