Sundog Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WASHINGTON DC 1130 AM EST SAT JAN 06 1996 ..WINTER STORM WARNING TONIGHT AND SUNDAY FOR NORTHERN VIRGINIA...CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN MARYLAND INCLUDING THE WASHINGTON METRO AREA... ..WINTER STORM WATCH FOR TONIGHT AND SUNDAY FOR NORTHERN VIRGINIA INCLUDING THE BALTIMORE METRO AREA AND THE EASTERN PANHANDLE OF WEST VIRGINIA... A MAJOR WINTER STORM IS DEVELOPING NEAR NEW ORLEANS THIS MORNING. THIS STORM WILL BEGIN TO INTENSIFY LATE TONIGHT AS IT MOVES TO THE CAROLINAS ON SUNDAY AND CONTINUES A STEADY TRACK TO THE NORTHEAST THROUGH MONDAY. THIS STORM MAY RIVAL THE STORM OF FEBRUARY 1983. THAT STORM PRODUCED THE ALL TIME RECORD 24 HOUR SNOWFALL IN BALTIMORE OF AROUND 22 INCHES AND ALSO PRODUCED MORE THEN 16 INCHES AT WASHINGTON NATIONAL AIRPORT WITH SEVERAL WESTERN SUBURBS OF WASHINGTON RECEIVING MORE THEN 2 FEET. LIGHT SNOW WILL DEVELOP ACROSS WESTERN MARYLAND THE EASTERN PANHANDLE OF WEST VIRGINIA AND WESTERN VIRGINIA DURING THE AFTERNOON WITH ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO 2 INCHES POSSIBLE. THE SNOW WILL OVERSPREAD THE ENTIRE AREA TONIGHT AND BECOME HEAVY AFTER MIDNIGHT. BY SUNDAY MORNING MANY AREAS WILL HAVE OVER 4 INCHES OF SNOW ON THE GROUND. ON SUNDAY AS THE LOW MOVES CLOSER TO THE AREA THE SNOW WILL BE VERY HEAVY AT TIMES AND WINDS WILL GRADUALLY INCREASE. THE SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW MAY REDUCE VISIBILITY TO LESS THEN ONE QUARTER MILE AT TIMES. BLIZZARD CONDITIONS MAY OCCUR AT TIMES ON SUNDAY. THE HEAVY SNOW AND INCREASED BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW ON SUNDAY WILL MAKE TRAVEL EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO IMPOSSIBLE. THE SNOW WILL CONTINUE SUNDAY NIGHT BEFORE FINALLY ENDING ON MONDAY. TOTAL SNOWFALLS COULD EXCEED MORE THEN A FOOT ACROSS MOST OF THE AREA AND SOME AREAS COULD RECEIVE 15 TO 20 INCHES. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN VERY COLD THROUGHOUT THE STORM AND WILL BE IN THE LOW TO MID 20S. THESE TEMPERATURES COMBINED WITH STRONG WINDS ON SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT COULD GIVE WIND CHILLS OF 10 TO 20 BELOW ZERO. STOCK UP ON FOOD TODAY AND COMPLETE ANY TRAVEL THIS AFTERNOON. ON SUNDAY TRAVEL COULD BE EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS TO IMPOSSIBLE AND MAY CONTINUE THAT WAY UNTIL MONDAY. TAKE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS TO PREPARE FOR A MAJOR WINTER STORM. STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO AND THE LOCAL NEWS MEDIA FOR FURTHER UPDATES ON THIS POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS WINTER STORM. Tell me you know how to get the Upton discussion. I've been wanting to read that for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Tell me you know how to get the Upton discussion. I've been wanting to read that for many years. Been searching to no avail. I posted what I could find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 Been searching to no avail. I posted what I could find. I appreciate your effort and the posts you've made. Still a great find you got there regardless of the location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I wish this board can experience a Jan. 1996 storm. Temps of 5-15 degrees with heavy snow falling and a widespread 20-35 inches. With 3"-5" more the next day and cold for a week straight after. Sick storm and sick memories. Can remember streets covered with 20"+ all throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 I wish this board can experience a Jan. 1996 storm. Temps of 5-15 degrees with heavy snow falling and a widespread 20-35 inches. With 3"-5" more the next day and cold for a week straight after. Sick storm and sick memories. Can remember streets covered with 20"+ all throughout. Dude do you know what it means to have a 25 inch SNOW DEPTH at LGA after the storm was over? I say someone go back and find a higher number for depth at any of the 3 major stations of NYC. It will be awfully difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Dude do you know what it means to have a 25 inch SNOW DEPTH at LGA after the storm was over? I say someone go back and find a higher number for depth at any of the 3 major stations of NYC. It will be awfully difficult. I know. People seem to not understand what that means. 25" snow depth AFTER the storm ended is at least 30"-35" with today's measuring methods. Sick. No storm last year had more then a 10"-12" snow depth and with today's measuring methods, areas still reported 12"-20" with a couple storms. Imagine if 1996 had today's measuring methods and not snow depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PDIIREDUX Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I know. People seem to not understand what that means. 25" snow depth AFTER the storm ended is at least 30"-35" with today's measuring methods. Sick. No storm last year had more then a 10"-12" snow depth and with today's measuring methods, areas still reported 12"-20" with a couple storms. Imagine if 1996 had today's measuring methods and not snow depth? classic over running, then frontogenesis, then deform, the trifecta perfecta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 After the 96 blizzard....mby flooded out from a storm a week later...lost almost half the snow pack...had about 2 inche before it change to rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I wish this board can experience a Jan. 1996 storm. Temps of 5-15 degrees with heavy snow falling and a widespread 20-35 inches. With 3"-5" more the next day and cold for a week straight after. Sick storm and sick memories. Can remember streets covered with 20"+ all throughout. I don't think it was that cold....but it was definitely in the teens when it started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I wish this board can experience a Jan. 1996 storm. Temps of 5-15 degrees with heavy snow falling and a widespread 20-35 inches. With 3"-5" more the next day and cold for a week straight after. Sick storm and sick memories. Can remember streets covered with 20"+ all throughout. The best analogy to the extreme cold you're referring to was the Jan 15, 2004 super clipper that dropped 6-8" across the area in 8-10 degree temps. The snow was pure fluff, almost as fluffy as the lake effect I saw in PA, which combined with the cold was one of the most purely arctic environments NYC has experienced in many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soadforecaster Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 a few runs before the dec storm actual storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I know. People seem to not understand what that means. 25" snow depth AFTER the storm ended is at least 30"-35" with today's measuring methods. Sick. No storm last year had more then a 10"-12" snow depth and with today's measuring methods, areas still reported 12"-20" with a couple storms. Imagine if 1996 had today's measuring methods and not snow depth? The 12/19 storm last year had well over a foot depth here afterwards. My area was on the western edge of the area which really got slammed by the megaband that developed the night of the storm. I still think the reports around my area were a little short given I measured 12" in a relatively wind-free area just after the extremely heavy snow ended, and we had mod-heavy snow for several hours after. The next morning, I measured 14.5" on the ground, which after settling overnight must have meant 16" or so fell. It's the deepest snow I've seen in Long Beach since maybe PD II (I missed 1/22/05 here which was another 16" event in Long Beach). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soadforecaster Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 remember this one jrodd321? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 a few runs before the dec storm actual storm I was worried before the heavy banding developed across the area due to the dry air eating up the snow all day, and that it would be a dud. But once it did develop, it went to town in a big way. We went from basically flurries to S+ in less than an hour, around dusk. By 12am we had a foot of snow on the ground and still piling up rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 Feb 6th makes me throw up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 The best analogy to the extreme cold you're referring to was the Jan 15, 2004 super clipper that dropped 6-8" across the area in 8-10 degree temps. The snow was pure fluff, almost as fluffy as the lake effect I saw in PA, which combined with the cold was one of the most purely arctic environments NYC has experienced in many years. This.....never have i seen it snow at those temp in this area....and to get that snow from a clipper and fight the dry area was impressive...... Kttn was 9 degrees and snowing for a time kdyl was 8 degrees and snowing for a time kewr was 8 degrees and snowing for a time klga was 9 degrees and snowing for a time kteb was 7 degrees and snowing for a time Snow started in LGA with a temp of 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Feb 6th makes me throw up. I took the bus back to McLean and got in just as the first .5" had fallen, I think it was the last bus to leave... ended up with 27" while the city got nada. Did the same for 1/30 (6.5" vs 0) and 12/19 (20.5" vs 10-12"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I don't think it was that cold....but it was definitely in the teens when it started. lol.....temps where in the middel teens when snow started and got up into the mid 20's for the area airports For PD2 temps where around the same.....although warm up during the night from monmouth county- south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodd321 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 remember this one jrodd321? If you refer to me as jrodd one more time I'm going to kick your ass. You know my name dumbass. And yes that was awesome. It was somewhat close haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 This.....never have i seen it snow at those temp in this area....and to get that snow from a clipper and fight the dry area was impressive...... Kttn was 9 degrees and snowing for a time kdyl was 8 degrees and snowing for a time kewr was 8 degrees and snowing for a time klga was 9 degrees and snowing for a time kteb was 7 degrees and snowing for a time Snow started in LGA with a temp of 14 That was a ridiculous airmass. That clipper totally whiffed to the south of here and got your area....the high temp that day IIRC was 1F. We had a high of 1F and a low of -12F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 That was a ridiculous airmass. That clipper totally whiffed to the south of here and got your area....the high temp that day IIRC was 1F. We had a high of 1F and a low of -12F. Wow that's awesome Will. I remember a great clipper during January 2009 at Middlebury; we were getting heavy snow with a temperature of 6F. It was a particularly beautiful sight because the flakes were majestically-formed dendrites piling up so fast. We picked up 6" with almost no liquid equivalent. That was an epic month. I think the coldest day at Middlebury we had a high of 6F and a low of -20F, just bitter weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Wow that's awesome Will. I remember a great clipper during January 2009 at Middlebury; we were getting heavy snow with a temperature of 6F. It was a particularly beautiful sight because the flakes were majestically-formed dendrites piling up so fast. We picked up 6" with almost no liquid equivalent. That was an epic month. I think the coldest day at Middlebury we had a high of 6F and a low of -20F, just bitter weather. Jan 2004 was epic for the cold...but I would have rather been in NYC for that month because they were getting more snow than here. But we had 9 days below 0F that month and the 3 day stretch starting with the clipper system to the south averaged below 0F. I think the 3 days were 1/-12, 2/-12, and 4/-10. Contrast that to last winter when we never got below 0F (I think we hit 0F on the nose one night) Just ridiculous cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NorthShoreWx Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php?/topic/629-the-last-true-old-fashion-blizzard/page__view__findpost__p__13199 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersWx92 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 This.....never have i seen it snow at those temp in this area....and to get that snow from a clipper and fight the dry area was impressive...... Kttn was 9 degrees and snowing for a time kdyl was 8 degrees and snowing for a time kewr was 8 degrees and snowing for a time klga was 9 degrees and snowing for a time kteb was 7 degrees and snowing for a time Snow started in LGA with a temp of 14 Incredible, wish I could remember that but I don't. I wonder if records are kept here for coldest temp with snow falling? One of the coldest recent snow events that I can remember is the January 15, 2009 clipper. Temps were in the teens. That was some of the fluffiest and lightest snow I've ever seen; it felt like pixie dust. We didn't get a lot of snow (I got 1.5'' IMBY), but it stuck to literally everything, including all of the tree branches, which was absolutely gorgeous. And of course PDII and the Blizzard of '96 had incredible cold; temps were in the low teens at the beginning and stayed in the teens for a good portion of each storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Jan 2004 was epic for the cold...but I would have rather been in NYC for that month because they were getting more snow than here. But we had 9 days below 0F that month and the 3 day stretch starting with the clipper system to the south averaged below 0F. I think the 3 days were 1/-12, 2/-12, and 4/-10. Contrast that to last winter when we never got below 0F (I think we hit 0F on the nose one night) Just ridiculous cold. Strong El Niños absolutely suck for arctic cold. It'll be interesting to see if we get any real arctic outbreaks this season; it looks as if the PV is going to be very intense with below average temperatures up north, so there should be a better shot than last season. January 2004 was an awesome month here. I remember a series of clippers, each of which dropped 2-3" of snow at night. I was always hoping for a school delay or closing when I went to bed and saw the puffy snowflakes drifting down in the streetlight, but it never happened since the accumulation was minor, and most of the clean-up had been done by morning. 03-04 was a great winter in my backyard with over 50" of snowfall and tons of bitter cold; it was almost as good as 02-03 but lacked the knockout punch for the East Coast. What a stretch of winters we got into when I was in HS, between 2002-06...truly a great time to be alive as a snow lover and resident of the NYC suburbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kramer Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I don't think it was that cold....but it was definitely in the teens when it started. It was BELOW zero in parts of the Hudson valley when it started to snow as lows that morning averaged -5 to 5 above. Obviously they warmed through the day but it was that cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 That was a ridiculous airmass. That clipper totally whiffed to the south of here and got your area....the high temp that day IIRC was 1F. We had a high of 1F and a low of -12F. Yeah i was no into weather forums at the time, but i do remeber how cold you guys where up there. I think that was the winter those fire fighters got trap in the bridgeport house during a fire......The picture from that fire where amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Incredible, wish I could remember that but I don't. I wonder if records are kept here for coldest temp with snow falling? One of the coldest recent snow events that I can remember is the January 15, 2009 clipper. Temps were in the teens. That was some of the fluffiest and lightest snow I've ever seen; it felt like pixie dust. We didn't get a lot of snow (I got 1.5'' IMBY), but it stuck to literally everything, including all of the tree branches, which was absolutely gorgeous. And of course PDII and the Blizzard of '96 had incredible cold; temps were in the low teens at the beginning and stayed in the teens for a good portion of each storm. Yeah it was a very cool event to watch, i was very lucky to have great winters while i was in high school. Alot of snow days from 2000-2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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