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October 2011 Banter/Obs/Disco Part III


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Yeah the cold lifts right out of the Great Lakes into Canada. I honestly wouldn't expect any sort of substantial cooldown until closer to Halloween..if at all.

Tough to get a direct discharge of cold air into new england with the position of the trough. Hopefully we can get some decent winds out of the system.

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Here we go:

That would be nice Tubes! Way out in the future obviously everyone knows the trend this fall has for these to dissapear as the trough is modeled too far east, I think Scooter and Will think sometime around the 1st of November there might be a chance for a pattern change. I think its mid November, just want it cold and snowy for the holidays! Every year it seems the cold is delayed on models and in reality, it will get here, I think you get a ton of snow this winter, gradient should really work in your favor up therez!!

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Yeah the cold lifts right out of the Great Lakes into Canada. I honestly wouldn't expect any sort of substantial cooldown until closer to Halloween..if at all.

Haha fantastic. I knew it looked too good in this warm pattern. Maybe a couple days near normal after the storm before it heads back up.

Rick I was hoping you'd see some snow on the mountain for your trip to Stowe next weekend!

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That would be nice Tubes! Way out in the future obviously everyone knows the trend this fall has for these to dissapear as the trough is modeled too far east, I think Scooter and Will think sometime around the 1st of November there might be a chance for a pattern change. I think its mid November, just want it cold and snowy for the holidays! Every year it seems the cold is delayed on models and in reality, it will get here, I think you get a ton of snow this winter, gradient should really work in your favor up therez!!

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Yeah it doesn't look too good... Not like last years two foot dump that happened the previous week and was still mostly on there.

Haha fantastic. I knew it looked too good in this warm pattern. Maybe a couple days near normal after the storm before it heads back up.

Rick I was hoping you'd see some snow on the mountain for your trip to Stowe next weekend!

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If anyone...anyone is feeling uneasy right now...they need to relax. Let the next 5 weeks play out and see how things look. Sometimes it's easy to get a little antsy this time of year, but then you have to remember the calendar date.

But but but I thought there was supposed to be 12+ of snowpack down to I-90 this time of year ;)

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Worst foliage season I have ever seen here... I had a grand total of maybe 4 or 5 days with some patches of nice oranges/reds after weeks of dull earlier stuff. Then this windstorm ripped it all down. Over and out for 2011 as the hillsides are well over half bare now.

Just got back from MD. Leaf disaster. Total, absolute, complete disaster. Kevin--can you lend me a hand? :)

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Yeah I hope so, wouldn't want the standing water to dry up lol. On track for the wettest year ever, congrats, us?

NNE is on pace for that as well... BTV is only 3.98" away from the wettest year on record with 2.5 months left to go! This next rain event should take a decent chunk out of that.

.CLIMATE... AS OF MIDNIGHT LST TODAY (10/16)...

BTV HAD 46.44 INCHES OF PCPN FOR THE YEAR:

1) 50.42 INCHES IN 1998

2) 50.16 INCHES IN 1983

3) 46.99 INCHES IN 2006

4) 46.44 INCHES IN 2011

5) 46.28 INCHES IN 1973

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Just got back from MD. Leaf disaster. Total, absolute, complete disaster. Kevin--can you lend me a hand? :)

Yeah up here I think we just lost 80% of the leaves in the past 72 hours. Hillsides that looked amazing even a few days ago are now bare. All the sudden it looks like November... all the winter-time views have opened up and my view of Mansfield just got better by about 10-fold without foliage.

It is incredible how fast it all happens. But this will go down as an ok fall in my book for foliage up here. We had some Forest Service guys up at Stowe from southern VT and they said the color was much better in the areas they'd been here in northern VT and over in northern NH (I think they were up near Bretton Woods before here) than it was down south. I have no idea why and they didn't really seem to either, except that maybe we had more days with large diurnal temperature changes. They said that seems to make a big difference if you have cold overnight lows followed by warm days and we had a few several day periods with near 40F diurnal temperature spreads when the color was exploding.

I have no idea... foliage to me seems to be the most mystifying thing to try and figure out. Even the "experts" aren't really sure what causes great foliage and what hurts it.

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