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October 2011 Banter/Obs/Disco Part III


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Lol, it could not be further from the truth, you see things only in extremes and in white, the fact is there is nothing average about this autumn, its been an all out torch, and while we get back to maybe a few above normal this weekend, next week will be above. Later in the week, a possible below normal couple of days before another potential torch.

The snow will come, eventually. I was actually thinking about ski operations in the north country, I know a couple

resorts like to open later in October, obviously thats not happening, but if this pattern persists it will be interesting to

see how late things get going, as you know a Sustained period of cold is needed, not sure when that will happen. It stinks because now its about economics, hopefully November will cool down quickly up north, I still like the 16th for a pattern change.

Nope, you're wrong dude. It's been an average fall. Winter will be here before you know it.

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Bag this Marathon man. I can picture you pooping your pants at mile 25 Jacko style, dripping down your legs as you cross the finish line. You will need a bag then, a colostomy bag :scooter:

:o

Colostomy bag would suggest he gets into a pretty serious medical situation. I can't even imagine what would cause that type of damage in a marathon. Collision?

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Lol, it could not be further from the truth, you see things only in extremes and in white, the fact is there is nothing average about this autumn, its been an all out torch, and while we get back to maybe a few above normal this weekend, next week will be above. Later in the week, a possible below normal couple of days before another potential torch.

The snow will come, eventually.

I was actually thinking about ski operations in the north country, I know a couple resorts like to open later in October, obviously thats not happening, but if this pattern persists it will be interesting to see how late things get going, as you know a Sustained period of cold is needed, not sure when that will happen. It stinks because now its about economics, hopefully November will cool down quickly up north, I still like the 16th for a pattern change.

Yeah it starts to get worrisome around the first week of November if we are still plus 5-10f in the means. The usual suspects like killington and Sunday river aren't going to be able to open in October like a lot of years. Of course it's been above normal at 4K feet just like the low elevations.

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After you live through several decades worth of Autumns you'll realize that it's "normal" to have periods above average and periods below. In part, that is how "average" is determined. It's funny to see you guys try to create weather drama, i.e. brutal torch, out of completely unremarkable deviations. The fact of the matter is we're on the cusp of another Winter season. Snow and cold are not that far off. My advice to you is sit in front of your fan, because it's so hot, and do homework.

The problem is that there have not been extended periods of cold weather so it makes it a warm mild fall. I am not worried yet but some MTN Ops crews are going to sweat if snowmaking isn't able to start on time in early Nov. We have passed the date of first measurable snow on the summit on average and it doesn't look like we have a legit shot for about a week. This years first snow will be late.

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Lol, it could not be further from the truth, you see things only in extremes and in white, the fact is there is nothing average about this autumn, its been an all out torch, and while we get back to maybe a few above normal this weekend, next week will be above. Later in the week, a possible below normal couple of days before another potential torch.

The snow will come, eventually. I was actually thinking about ski operations in the north country, I know a couple resorts like to open later in October, obviously thats not happening, but if this pattern persists it will be interesting to see how late things get going, as you know a Sustained period of cold is needed, not sure when that will happen. It stinks because now its about economics, hopefully November will cool down quickly up north, I still like the 16th for a pattern change.

u are as warm biased as he is cold biased or at least within a standard deviation of his alleged extremes

i don't see much shot of a potential torch period....perhaps a day or 36hrs ahead of LP.....which won't be a lakes cutter

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The problem is that there have not been extended periods of cold weather so it makes it a warm mild fall. I am not worried yet but some MTN Ops crews are going to sweat if snowmaking isn't able to start on time in early Nov. We have passed the date of first measurable snow on the summit on average and it doesn't look like we have a legit shot for about a week. This years first snow will be late.

Been down this road many times. Worrying in mid-Oct is pointless. I'm confident it's going to be an awesome ski season.

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The problem is that there have not been extended periods of cold weather so it makes it a warm mild fall. I am not worried yet but some MTN Ops crews are going to sweat if snowmaking isn't able to start on time in early Nov. We have passed the date of first measurable snow on the summit on average and it doesn't look like we have a legit shot for about a week. This years first snow will be late.

wait no shot tommorrow as 850's crash and some moisture is in area above 3k ?

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u are as warm biased as he is cold biased or at least within a standard deviation of his alleged extremes

i don't see much shot of a potential torch period....perhaps a day or 36hrs ahead of LP.....which won't be a lakes cutter

I post numbers. Facts. This has been an amazing torch. I look forward to the pattern changing so I can talk about snow and cold, until then its well above normal, close to epic stuff for September and October, its +6 so far at Boston regarding monthly departures, thats just the weather.

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i don't questions the average's i see you post them daily :) sept and oct to date has been "well above average"

i find them annoying that you point out weather that i dispise of daily but i guess so long as you continue to do so thru the winter with as much gusto (warm or cold) i would say job well done

it does seem like you paint the uncertain future wx thru torch filled glasses and when then comes to fruition you are like a pig in **** :) so that is why i say you are warm biased .

but since tone doesn't come off well on the net ......this is me really not caring and just being bored and responding ....no harm at all intended

dews are sickening once again today

kev gl on your marathon....i hope you have 30 mile winds in your face which make the 26 miles seems more like 32 .....:) jk

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That was at 2/2...right when we flipped over.

Oh right. I don't know why I totally forgot about that storm...the peak depth there was after that storm.

I think we reached peak depth here after 2/8. We lost a couple to 3 inches after 2/2 due to slow melt and some compaction, but we gained back like 4" on 2/8....the 31.5F icing event on Feb 5-6th saved us while that warm front got up to the MA border and BOS where they torched well into the 40s with rain.

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Oh right. I don't know why I totally forgot about that storm...the peak depth there was after that storm.

I think we reached peak depth here after 2/8. We lost a couple to 3 inches after 2/2 due to slow melt and some compaction, but we gained back like 4" on 2/8....the 31.5F icing event on Feb 5-6th saved us while that warm front got up to the MA border and BOS where they torched well into the 40s with rain.

That was our peak depth. After that...it was a slow death in snow pack. Here is March 4th.

Compare that to the pic I had at 2/2

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