40/70 Benchmark Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Megan has not seen the one of me sucking on the tail pipe yet...I think she would be horrified. Shwartz Synotic Seven Feet Under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 classics, never get old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Lots of meh coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Lots of meh coming up. At least there is cold air building though. It's just a question of can we get this pattern to break down...we need some sort of mechanism to bring that cold air down. One issue now and for pretty much the rest of the month is the westerlies are so freaking strong and the pattern is so zonal any cold or colder air that tries to dig into the US is short lasting, we get these impulses or troughs that try to develop, however, within a day or two everything is back to being zonal. The SE ridge is really fighting things. I don't know a great deal about this and I could be wrong here but right now it looks as if we will see a more westerly based La Nina winter...the colder water and anomalies are set up closer to the central and east/central Pacific while off the Central/South American coast there is still some solidly +SSTA's..although some cooling has really tried to occur here. Anyways, with such warmer SSTA's in that region right now wouldn't this further promote a SE ridge...especially with how dry it has been across the south and southeast the past 60-90 days. I'm still trying to get a better understanding of all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 At least there is cold air building though. It's just a question of can we get this pattern to break down...we need some sort of mechanism to bring that cold air down. One issue now and for pretty much the rest of the month is the westerlies are so freaking strong and the pattern is so zonal any cold or colder air that tries to dig into the US is short lasting, we get these impulses or troughs that try to develop, however, within a day or two everything is back to being zonal. The SE ridge is really fighting things. I don't know a great deal about this and I could be wrong here but right now it looks as if we will see a more westerly based La Nina winter...the colder water and anomalies are set up closer to the central and east/central Pacific while off the Central/South American coast there is still some solidly +SSTA's..although some cooling has really tried to occur here. Anyways, with such warmer SSTA's in that region right now wouldn't this further promote a SE ridge...especially with how dry it has been across the south and southeast the past 60-90 days. I'm still trying to get a better understanding of all this. It doesn't look necessarily west based to me, but yes if we did have warm waters in the eastern regions it may help promote a se ridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Lots of meh coming up. At least there is cold air building though. It's just a question of can we get this pattern to break down...we need some sort of mechanism to bring that cold air down. One issue now and for pretty much the rest of the month is the westerlies are so freaking strong and the pattern is so zonal any cold or colder air that tries to dig into the US is short lasting, we get these impulses or troughs that try to develop, however, within a day or two everything is back to being zonal. The SE ridge is really fighting things. I don't know a great deal about this and I could be wrong here but right now it looks as if we will see a more westerly based La Nina winter...the colder water and anomalies are set up closer to the central and east/central Pacific while off the Central/South American coast there is still some solidly +SSTA's..although some cooling has really tried to occur here. Anyways, with such warmer SSTA's in that region right now wouldn't this further promote a SE ridge...especially with how dry it has been across the south and southeast the past 60-90 days. I'm still trying to get a better understanding of all this. I think these are the same statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Careful with the banter...other regions get mad A gradual step down is ok,, but now there is more and more toaster material showing up 1979-1980... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Nice to see the ensembles and Euro op continue to show the colder pattern setting in later next week..Then a tiny warmup next weekend That snow event around T-giving is still there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 36 clear Nothing but inferno as far as the eye can see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Nice to see the ensembles and Euro op continue to show the colder pattern setting in later next week..Then a tiny warmup next weekend That snow event around T-giving is still there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I honestly and truly don't know what you are seeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 36 clear Nothing but inferno as far as the eye can see agree...most indicators are unfavorable for anything colder than seasonal temp next several weeks. The mass panic is already starting around here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 agree...most indicators are unfavorable for anything colder than seasonal temp next several weeks. The mass panic is already starting around here.... For a large area, seasonal temps in late November can support snow. Not saying that's going to happen mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 looks like truly pitiful weather for anyone with a skiing desire or a one way infatuation with cold and snow. and truly beautiful weather for people on the cp who don't want to "waste a cool pattern" or those who enjoy november warmth. it's just disturbing how the 10-12 c 850 show up regularly every 5-6 days and what a killer this is for early season snow makers snow pack building conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 For a large area, seasonal temps in late November can support snow. Not saying that's going to happen mind you. it sure doesn't look like it. unless maybe your in an upslope region of VT you prolly have the best chance in this pattern ...i dunno. ski resorts accross new england are collectively throwing up in unison. no way to postively spin this for resorts. on a side note. i am in orlando right now for my sis's wedding which is a blast....and thankfully temps were 43 this am right outside of orlando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 I honestly and truly don't know what you are seeing I just don't see a "wintry" pattern imo. I'm not the only one either. It just seems like transient stuff. Will there be periods of cool wx? Yes. Is it an established wintery patter?? IMO, absolutely not. I'm speaking about the next two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 looks like truly pitiful weather for anyone with a skiing desire or a one way infatuation with cold and snow. and truly beautiful weather for people on the cp who don't want to "waste a cool pattern" or those who enjoy november warmth. it's just disturbing how the 10-12 c 850 show up regularly every 5-6 days and what a killer this is for early season snow makers snow pack building conditions. LOL>.where is that showing up after early next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 LOL>.where is that showing up after early next week? Everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Everywhere LOL..You're using the GFS?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 LOL..You're using the GFS?? Enjoy the torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Canadian ensembles are not that warm at all http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/tenday_e.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Canadian ensembles are not that warm at all http://www.weatherof...e/tenday_e.html They are a blowtorch after T-Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Canadian ensembles are not that warm at all http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/tenday_e.html yea the most reliable has been trending down. I am still thinking T-day Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 They are a blowtorch after T-Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Canadian ensembles are not that warm at all http://www.weatherof...e/tenday_e.html AWT Neither are Euro ens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Enjoy the torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 They are a blowtorch after T-Day. Are you looking 500 heights? Epo rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 AWT Neither are Euro ens they don't look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Regarding the pacific, can someone point out the difference between last year at this time and this year. Thanks, trying to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 It looks to me like a hot/cold pattern which I hate. Flooding rain followed by cold and breezy. Repeat. The -PNA is too extreme for any sustained cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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