CT Rain Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Totally disagree. Irenes winds were strongest at the coast, not inland. Bdr was sustained at 74 gusting to 92 are you nuts in saying they're even close to equal??? [/ No I am saying that Central CT got hammered by Gloria while areas to the East got hammered by Irene wind wise. Hurricane Gloria produced weak category two hurricane conditions across southern Connecticut. Gloria continued to lose intensity as it passed over Long Island. Peak wind gusts in southcentral and southeastern Connecticut were likely near 95-mph as the tropical cyclone swept over the region. The metropolitan New Haven area was hit with wind gusts of 90-mph and heavy rain. There were only a few reports of minimal structural damage in southern Connecticut during Gloria. Tree damage in Connecticut was modestly heavy within 10 to 20-miles of the coast, and along the coast from around Bridgeport to the Lymes. The entire causeway in the Fenwick section of Old Saybrook was under water at the height of the hurricane, while several fishing piers near New Haven were also destroyed. Two persons were reported to have been killed by falling trees limbs in southern Connecticut - tragically one one these was a six year old girl. Winds in Gloria even in eastern mass were worse than Irene. I posted the bdr obs earlier in this thread. Nowhere in sne were irenes winds worse than Gloria. In fact in many areas they weren't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Irene was a meh storm overall ..The only thing it will be remebered for IN CT is massive power outages due to extended strong wind gusts and some minor beach damage The beach damage in ct was a big deal. The wind in ct from Gloria was substantially stringer than Irene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 HRD max wind analysis (sustained) with Irene. ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/pub/hwind/2011/AL092011/AL092011_swaths_max1minWind_NY_knots.pdf max winds were 40-45 kt sustained in coastal locations from SW Connecticut to Martha's Vineyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I think those 80+mph gusts were real. The storm still had very strong winds off the surface but was having difficulty mixing them down in a sustained fashion. A strong heavy rain band was in the Rhode Island area that morning with some bowing segments. There was multiple reports of 80+ mph wind gusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveyLeonardFan Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Pretty much the storm that solidified my interest in meteorology. I was 6, yet remember it like yesterday. I was 8...I remember begging my teacher to turn the news on at noon time to get the latest update on the black and white tv in my classroom. Price is Right was ending and Bob Barker still had black hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarveyLeonardFan Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I call bs on that barrington ob. Top Irene gust was like 67 at gon from Irene. Totally agree. I didn't even reach 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 HRD max wind analysis (sustained) with Irene. ftp://ftp.aoml.noaa....nd_NY_knots.pdf max winds were 40-45 kt sustained in coastal locations from SW Connecticut to Martha's Vineyard. excellent graphic. I remember driving towards the center of the storm as it passed across Westchester and Dutchess counties. I realize the stronger winds are displaced east of the center, but I knew the winds could not have been very strong at all over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 excellent graphic. I remember driving towards the center of the storm as it passed across Westchester and Dutchess counties. I realize the stronger winds are displaced east of the center, but I knew the winds could not have been very strong at all over there. Perhaps you guys missed the thread but some Trop mets have big issues with that HRD map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Perhaps you guys missed the thread but some Trop mets have big issues with that HRD map. can you post a link to it? HRD tends to be on the conservative side (lower wind estimates), but at the same time, NHC is slow to downgrade weakening systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 The vortex message right near landfall estimated surface winds of 48 kt. The NHC forecast intensity at landfall was 55 kt. I doubt the HRD analysis is too far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 excellent graphic. I remember driving towards the center of the storm as it passed across Westchester and Dutchess counties. I realize the stronger winds are displaced east of the center, but I knew the winds could not have been very strong at all over there. Winds were predominately calm here in Dutchess county... my analog barometer had 964.5mb pressure as the center passed overhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Winds were predominately calm here in Dutchess county... my analog barometer had 964.5mb pressure as the center passed overhead I know the pressure in and around NYC was not far off from breaking records. Even though we had a weakening TS, the pressures were quite impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 The vortex message right near landfall estimated surface winds of 48 kt. The NHC forecast intensity at landfall was 55 kt. I doubt the HRD analysis is too far off. Yeah on land I doubt winds were sustained more than 50 knots anywhere even long island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Yeah on land I doubt winds were sustained more than 50 knots anywhere even long island Conimicut Point was sustained at 60mph and gusted to 80mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Conimicut Point was sustained at 60mph and gusted to 80mph. Sustained ...KENT COUNTY... 2 NNW WARWICK 64 639 AM 8/28 T.F. GREEN ARPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Conimicut Point was sustained at 60mph and gusted to 80mph. okay...big deal...so they might have been slightly higher than the HRD analysis. Who is to say that wasn't caused by some relatively isolated convective mixing in the feeder band that morning? Do you agree or disagree with the NHC 55 kt landfall intensity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Irene Was about 965MB when it crossed NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Irene also another storm with crap winds with such low pressure. Another example of the pressure wind relationship not always working out..especially for large systems. Tiny systems are the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Irene also another storm with crap winds with such low pressure. Another example of the pressure wind relationship not always working out..especially for large systems. Tiny systems are the opposite. Yeah exactly the pressure gradient weakened quickly with Irene as the storm's core fell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 okay...big deal...so they might have been slightly higher than the HRD analysis. Who is to say that wasn't caused by some relatively isolated convective mixing in the feeder band that morning? Do you agree or disagree with the NHC 55 kt landfall intensity? The feeder bands had winds sustained higher than HRD said, inland winds were stronger brought down, not isolated at all, look at the damage patterns. Ask anyone who lives near the coast about wind damage, look at how much more tree damage was done inland. Yep55 knots is about right, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 The feeder bands had winds sustained higher than HRD said, inland winds were stronger brought down, not isolated at all, look at the damage patterns. Ask anyone who lives near the coast about wind damage, look at how much more tree damage was done inland. Yep55 knots is about right, lol keeping posting to yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 lol keeping posting to yourself I responded to Nick, should I bump your, tidal flooding will not be that bad as the timing has sped up post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 I responded to Nick, should I bump your, tidal flooding will not be that bad as the timing has sped up post? lol you live in a fantasy world dude If you can't understand the difference between my posts of various thoughts that come to mind while I'm working as a meteorologist and an actual forecast than you really don't understand my posting style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 lol you live in a fantasy world dude If you can't understand the difference between my posts of various thoughts that come to mind while I'm working as a meteorologist and an actual forecast than you really don't understand my posting style. KSSB. Kevin Spin School of Broadcasting Check the thread bro, you should have known with NL that high the surge was rolling in with the tide. I posted right after you a chart and told you. I understand rational out loud thinking but that was not smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 IRENE was a TD when it hit New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 KSSB. Kevin Spin School of Broadcasting Check the thread bro, you should have known with NL that high the surge was rolling in with the tide. I posted right after you a chart and told you. I understand rational out loud thinking but that was not smart. Considering I was hitting the surge harder than anyone else in the market (or even the NWS for that matter) your post makes no sense and just isn't true. I posted 36 hours prior that we may avoid the worst with a change in timing. That wasn't a forecast but and observation. The storm's speed didn't change and obviously we got the worst. But don't for one second question what I said on the air because I made about as big of a deal out of the surge threat as possible including telling people that it could be worse than 92 in many areas and telling people to evacuate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Gloria was flying north and probably cut down on the extreme rain rates, but no question.....no question winds were worse in Gloria. Case closed. Surge was worse thanks to timing of high tide, not because surge in Irene was worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Gloria was flying north and probably cut down on the extreme rain rates, but no question.....no question winds were worse in Gloria. Case closed. Surge was worse thanks to timing of high tide, not because surge in Irene was worse. Oh yeah. BDR had something pathetic like 0.25" of rain from Gloria lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Oh yeah. BDR had something pathetic like 0.25" of rain from Gloria lol I don't think I had more than a shower..lol. Just a massive wind storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Considering I was hitting the surge harder than anyone else in the market (or even the NWS for that matter) your post makes no sense and just isn't true. Uh thats subjective as TWC and 3 were banging it very hard I posted 36 hours prior that we may avoid the worst with a change in timing. That wasn't a forecast but and observation. The storm's speed didn't change and obviously we got the worst. Ryan check the thread here ya go Ct Rain Posted 28 August 2011 - 06:30 AM Think we'll miss the worst wind/high tide combo. Storm is fast enough. Ginx Posted 28 August 2011 - 06:38 AM IDK about that, pushing into the sound But don't for one second question what I said on the air because I made about as big of a deal out of the surge threat as possible including telling people that it could be worse than 92 in many areas and telling people to evacuate. LOL , just look at the thread Ryan at 0630 in the morning, you can dish it out but do not like it when you get called out. Who said anything about your on air time anyway/ You did a fantastic job, just do not tell me I live in a fooking fantasy world, that was BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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