cyclone77 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 First day of the season that we failed to hit 50. Only made it to 48 with overcast skies all day. Looks like the rain will stay off to the east tonight now. This would be gut wrenching if this was a snowstorm lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 KCLE is going to most likely break the record for wettest year ever at some point before midnight... We started the day 1.37" under the record, and have seen 1.11" today. We are 0.26" behind the record as of 5PM, and the airport has recorded .13" of rain per hour the last two hours and this shows little sign of abating soon. Yeah. It's likely been broken this hour. Playing around with some personal weather stations on wunderground, there is a station in Parma that just crossed the 60" mark for the year today compared with CLE's ~54" total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 some of the GFS ensemble runs have some pretty interesting trof's coming into the central CONUS around D7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Barring an unforeseen intra-hour bump, this will make back to back sub 50º high temps at LAF. Again, have to go back to March (28-29th) for the last time it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 And new all time wettest year on record set for Cleveland with roughly 2 and half more months left to go! A record that will literally be blown out of the water come December 31st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc2man13 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 This is the first storm of the year that sort of feels like a winter storm. 45 and rainy here, but Big Rapids and Cadillac are both at 41 with DPs at 39. I wonder if a few of the higher points nearby Cadillac and other points up north see a few flakes mixed in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Wednesday, October 19th: Hi: 48F Lo: 42F Overall Sky Conditions: Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 30MPH Rainfall: 0.38" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Looks like another fun storm at D10 on the ECMWF... last few runs are showing a nice system for the western GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Looks like another fun storm at D10 on the ECMWF... last few runs are showing a nice system for the western GL. Timing will change. Is just me or does the ECMWF seem to be on the slow side as of a late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 And new all time wettest year on record set for Cleveland with roughly 2 and half more months left to go! A record that will literally be blown out of the water come December 31st. Hopefully the tap doesn't shut off when the cold air arrives. My yard is under water, and probably will be until Spring. Just incredible the amount of rain we have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Hopefully the tap doesn't shut off when the cold air arrives. My yard is under water, and probably will be until Spring. Just incredible the amount of rain we have had. Basically we got the 2 snowstorms in March when the wet pattern began. Otherwise, I'm afraid of things drying out when the snow season arrives. Another way to look at this rain record is that it's the equivalent of hitting the 117.9" snowfall record in late February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Basically we got the 2 snowstorms in March when the wet pattern began. Otherwise, I'm afraid of things drying out when the snow season arrives. Another way to look at this rain record is that it's the equivalent of hitting the 117.9" snowfall record in late February. Well, YNG broke the old record of 102.8" from 2007-08 on February 25 last year, en route to finishing with 118.7 inches. And that's despite having the latest first measurable snow on record (first time there was no measurable snow before December 1). This year, I'm kind of keeping my eye out on the latest first freeze. I went back in the records to 1948 and the latest I found in that time frame was November 4 in 1973, I believe. There's a chance it may reach freezing this weekend, but every forecast I've seen shows mid 30s and the saturated ground will probably make it tough to get below 33 (because I imagine that would take a lot of latent heat to freeze over all the water). In any case, it should be one of the longest growing seasons on record as the last spring freeze was also very early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well, YNG broke the old record of 102.8" from 2007-08 on February 25 last year, en route to finishing with 118.7 inches. And that's despite having the latest first measurable snow on record (first time there was no measurable snow before December 1). Wow, Dec/Jan must have been intense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well, YNG broke the old record of 102.8" from 2007-08 on February 25 last year, en route to finishing with 118.7 inches. And that's despite having the latest first measurable snow on record (first time there was no measurable snow before December 1). This year, I'm kind of keeping my eye out on the latest first freeze. I went back in the records to 1948 and the latest I found in that time frame was November 4 in 1973, I believe. There's a chance it may reach freezing this weekend, but every forecast I've seen shows mid 30s and the saturated ground will probably make it tough to get below 33 (because I imagine that would take a lot of latent heat to freeze over all the water). In any case, it should be one of the longest growing seasons on record as the last spring freeze was also very early. It's been interesting to follow YNG's rainfall reporting... seems very similar to other reporting stations. Wonder why snowfall is so different there? Haven't had anything close to a frost or freeze yet. Pretty typical though close to the lakeshore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Through October 20, the lowest temp at ORD this season has only been 41F. Going back to 1959 (when records started being kept at ORD), this ties 2005 as the latest in the season without a temp below 41F. In the 1971-72 cold season, it didn't fall below 39F until October 31...I think that record will remain safe, as ORD may hit 37-38F tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Hmm.....typical Nina pattern for the next 1-2 weeks The pattern in general for the past few weeks has resembled a typical Nina pattern as well. Thus far 2007 and 2008 seem like reasonable analogues to use and other analogues include 1974-75, 1971-72, 1970-71, 1964-65, 1955-56, 1917-1918 and 1907-08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Card Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Here is a nice article for some of the novices in particular that talks about the la nina pattern and how the AO "could" trump it at times this winter. Looks like we could see a little bit of everything this winter from sub zero and heavy snow to rapid transitions to milder spells and then back to cold. Anyhow I will post the link, I'm sure many have read this but it was informative. http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2011/20111020_winteroutlook.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 It's been interesting to follow YNG's rainfall reporting... seems very similar to other reporting stations. Wonder why snowfall is so different there? Haven't had anything close to a frost or freeze yet. Pretty typical though close to the lakeshore. I really wish all the major climate reporting stations kept track of the liquid equivalent snowfall for each day, unfortunately with so many rain/snow events and ice storms it's nearly impossible to go back and recalculate. It would be great to compare seasonal liquid equivalent snowfalls versus comparing measured snowfalls. I would not be surprised to see some 60" snowfall winters have the same liquid equivalents as some 30" snowfall winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Freeze warning out for our area tonight. The NWS point forecast has us at 28. The coldest low here so far was 32, so we should easily beat that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Plenty of chances for some more fun PV action. Med range is trying to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I like the way this looks. Its far out in la la land but something to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 ORD had a high of 47 today and 49 yesterday. These are the first back-to-back days with sub-50 high temps since April 19 & 20th (38/43) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Please just give us near the lake a hard frost already! Allergies still hanging on here. Clouds due to this pesky system are keeping us from taking advantage of radiational cooling so far tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 ORD had a high of 46 today and 49 yesterday. These are the first back-to-back days with sub-50 high temps since April 19 & 20th (38/43) April 19th was very interesting as there was a HUGE temp contrast from north to south in Illinois. Temps over northern Illinois never got out of the 30s while the southern half of the state saw temps at or above 80. My avatar pic was a tornado we intercepted in central Illinois that day while northern Illinois was trapped in shallow cold air north of the WF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 April 19th was very interesting as there was a HUGE temp contrast from north to south in Illinois. Temps over northern Illinois never got out of the 30s while the southern half of the state saw temps at or above 80. My avatar pic was a tornado we intercepted in central Illinois that day while northern Illinois was trapped in shallow cold air north of the WF. We headed out of DeKalb in the morning socked in low clouds and fog, then eventually having a quick jump from the 40's and into the 70's as we headed south on 39. I remember the clouds bases were so low up around DeKalb, the wind turbines were partially in the clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 0z GFS bringing 60 dews up to DVN on tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 GRR. It's been pouring for over 12 hours straight from a pesky lake effect rain band over Greater Cleveland. Perusing some of the wunderground personal weather stations, some locales are already over an inch of lake effect rain overnight. Easily would have been a surprise 12"+ snowstorm had this been a few weeks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Good to see that the high res wrf sniffed this one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 First time LAF has had 3 consecutive sub 50º high temps in October since...October 25-27, 2001 (49, 42, 46). Here's the other Octobers that had at least 3 consecutive sub 50º high temps at LAF, since 1964: Oct 29-31, 1993...Oct 18-20, 1989...Oct 24-26 and 28-30, 1988...Oct 22-24, 1981...Oct 25-29, 1980...Oct 19-23 and 25-28, 1976...Oct 9-11 and 25-28, 1967. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 LAF radiating well this morning, tied with GUS for the lowest min temp (through 8AM) in Indiana with a 35º reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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