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Models Advertising Late Month Storm And Cold Front


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EURO actually gives the city proper 1-2" of snow this run. lmaosmiley.gif

I'll be excited if we have a mix or flurries... anything in October is a huge bonus/awesome.

The most significant thing about this storm (if it happens) will be the precedent it sets for the winter... if we are already getting ideal set-ups for snow and it's only October, my confidence in a 30"+ winter will go up dramatically.

Even though this storm will likely amount to nothing for most, if we have something close to a repeat even 2-3 weeks in the future, there is a good chance it would be a moderate to significant snow event, especially for so early in the season.

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Yeah, Euro is colder than 12Z, its about as good as you could hope for on October 30. Wow. Nice run. Ukie is lock step with it.

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Heights sub 540 in NYC and 850 line way east even in the first frame. Surface only issue here but not in the second frame. Also has a nice cold flow from the NNE

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The Euro ensemble mean is still east of the OP but more amplified than the GFS.

That seems pretty fair to me...more often than not the GFS will be too de-amplified with mid level troughs at this range. Judging by its interaction with the two shortwaves after 100 hours..this time is no different.

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Typical ensemble bias?

Well at 120 hours the ensembles will almost always be less amplified and wound up than an operational run, simply because what you're looking at is a smoothed mean of 30 sub-members medium range forecast. I wouldn't call it a bias, more of a normalcy for those products.

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