Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Deal. Giddy up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Joe--why are you going off on departures? I'm not debating that--nor do I think I have been. I'm talking about the forecasted highs compared to the 2:30 readings. Torch today...even in GC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Giddy up. I hope you guys are using ASOS stations for this bet. Sun-contaminated sites can hit 87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I hope you guys are using ASOS stations for this bet. Sun-contaminated sites can hit 87. I hope he is. This doesn't include some sun torched weenie thermometer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I hope he is. This doesn't include some sun torched weenie thermometer. I trust Scooter, I wont be around, he can use whatever thermos he wants.....if I can get a westerly or wsw flow pumping i win, and D~chester maybe the area the pours the liquid gold down my gullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The whole temp debate on both sides gets old and lame. It has run its course. The phrase "it is what it is" should prevail. Above normal or below normal is just that. Yeah, I can't wait for winter so we can argue about the snow depth on the side of I93 and the early end of winter in the cranbury bogs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 That map shows upper 70s to low 80s in extreme nw mass. I could care less what your forecast was. Extreme NW Mass is part of Albany's CWA. Far northwest for BOX zones are Western Franklin, Western Hampshire, and to a lesser extent Western Hamden. My whole statement was tied to what had been forecast. So while you say you "could care less what your forecast was", that's what the post was that prompted you to respond. So, I think deep down, you do care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Joe--why are you going off on departures? I'm not debating that--nor do I think I have been. I'm talking about the forecasted highs compared to the 2:30 readings. Torch today...even in GC. See above--I haven't once indicated it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I hope he is. This doesn't include some sun torched weenie thermometer. Thats why i have mine on the north facing side, It sees no sun.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Extreme NW Mass is part of Albany's CWA. Far northwest for BOX zones are Western Franklin, Western Hampshire, and to a lesser extent Western Hamden. My whole statement was tied to what had been forecast. So while you say you "could care less what your forecast was", that's what the post was that prompted you to respond. So, I think deep down, you do care. I care about a furnace wind on Friday, thats what I care about so that the wife and i can have our last hurrah at the beach, if its not then I have to work. I hope its 80-85 all October, and then when it Matters, it starts snowing Nov 26th. Circle Of Sizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Yeah, I can't wait for winter so we can argue about the snow depth on the side of I93 and the early end of winter in the cranbury bogs! As long as people are emotionally vested in the weather you will have these arguments that generally don't occur amongst professionals whether it be temperatures, snow, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I trust Scooter, I wont be around, he can use whatever thermos he wants.....if I can get a westerly or wsw flow pumping i win, and D~chester maybe the area the pours the liquid gold down my gullet. I'm going by any official reporting station BDL,ORH,LWM etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Thats why i have mine on the north facing side, It sees no sun.. Well that's no good either. It should be in the sun as much as possible, though shielded. Wonder who the 47 is in NW MA? Guess that's how we know where ski MRG lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 LOL, you guys are something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 I care about a furnace wind on Friday, thats what I care about so that the wife and i can have our last hurrah at the beach, if its not then I have to work. I hope its 80-85 all October, and then when it Matters, it starts snowing Nov 26th. Circle Of Sizzle Did something drastic happen in the 12z model runs? My forecasted high for Friday is mid-60's...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 As long as people are emotionally vested in the weather you will have these arguments that generally don't occur amongst professionals whether it be temperatures, snow, etc. Winter is the worst time, You have a lot on here with jackpot fetishes for snow and cold air more so then this time of year, The board is quite baron in the summer months but it takes a catastrophe to bring people back on board as we had with Irene for some... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 As long as people are emotionally vested in the weather you will have these arguments that generally don't occur amongst professionals whether it be temperatures, snow, etc. Snow depth data is generally pretty good...people can say what they want by looking at sun bathed south facing slopes on I-95 or by going deep into the woods underneath a grove of fir trees...but we have good snow depth data for the most part so we can have a good idea of what the true snow depth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I care about a furnace wind on Friday, thats what I care about so that the wife and i can have our last hurrah at the beach, if its not then I have to work. I hope its 80-85 all October, and then when it Matters, it starts snowing Nov 26th. Circle Of Sizzle Ski Swap at WaWa is in 10 days...lol Torchy here, to be sure. KFIT is 79F, my car will probably show 80-83 like yesterday. Def not forecast well for mby temps in the upper 70s-80s make my classroom a swamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Well that's no good either. It should be in the sun as much as possible, though shielded. Wonder who the 47 is in NW MA? Guess that's how we know where ski MRG lives. It is shielded, But no fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Any interesting weather in the works (apart from exciting, nailbiting anomolous torch/humidity)? If not, then this is all we can do... Stick it up yer azzes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Winter is the worst time, You have a lot on here with jackpot fetishes for snow and cold air more so then this time of year, The board is quite baron in the summer months but it takes a catastrophe to bring people back on board as we had with Irene for some... I will say that I think many of us are pretty good at not using their own fluff factor when reporting snow. You don't see too many reports that look ridiculous, despite their lust for snow. If there is one thing I hate, it's people bullsh*tting their snow reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I will say that I think many of us are pretty good at not using their own fluff factor when reporting snow. You don't see too many reports that look ridiculous, despite their lust for snow. If their is one thing I hate, it's people bullsh*tting their snow reports. Part of my consulting is giving accurate snow reports because many of the clients who request snow reports have a snow total limit in their contracts before they charge more. So I have become very privy to what is B.S. and what isn't. Its how I do my maps as well. A lot of people do not purposely inflate their snow totals, they just do it without realizing it. Or in the case of weatherwiz, they under report without knowing it intentionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I will say that I think many of us are pretty good at not using their own fluff factor when reporting snow. You don't see too many reports that look ridiculous, despite their lust for snow. If their is one thing I hate, it's people bullsh*tting their snow reports. Yes, Many are but there are some that come on just to boast snowfall totals and then are not heard from again when things go south, I think most know how to measure but there are some slant sticks out there, Especially further south then New England as was seen over the last couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Part of my consulting is giving accurate snow reports because many of the clients who request snow reports have a snow total limit in their contracts before they charge more. So I have become very privy to what is B.S. and what isn't. Its how I do my maps as well. A lot of people do not purposely inflate their snow totals, they just do it without realizing it. Or in the case of weatherwiz, they under report without knowing it intentionally. This seems to grow more true in the big storms >12", especially with the public reports. On here, I think people are more or less pretty good about it since we are perhaps a little more versed in the nuances of snow fall measuring...but snow fall measuring is certainly not perfect. I'm sure I over/under measured a little bit during the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 This seems to grow more true in the big storms >12", especially with the public reports. On here, I think people are more or less pretty good about it since we are perhaps a little more versed in the nuances of snow fall measuring...but snow fall measuring is certainly not perfect. I'm sure I over/under measured a little bit during the past. A lot of people measure in improper locations. When its a windy storm, if you measure on your deck or something, you might have significant inflation from roof drift...or even just spots relatively close to your house. Even spots near a grove of pine trees are bad if it is on the lee side...as any snow the pines catch will fall down into that region. I usually use a 10 measurement mean in windy storms, but you have to remember where you are measuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 This seems to grow more true in the big storms >12", especially with the public reports. On here, I think people are more or less pretty good about it since we are perhaps a little more versed in the nuances of snow fall measuring...but snow fall measuring is certainly not perfect. I'm sure I over/under measured a little bit during the past. As well here, Its a lot more difficult measuring in Nor Easters then these SWFE events thats for sure, But thats where more measurements need to be taken over a greater area to avg it out, I also look at the towns that surround me up here and we are all usually the same or within 1-2"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 This seems to grow more true in the big storms >12", especially with the public reports. On here, I think people are more or less pretty good about it since we are perhaps a little more versed in the nuances of snow fall measuring...but snow fall measuring is certainly not perfect. I'm sure I over/under measured a little bit during the past. I just go with what Kevin predicts will be the "lollies". j/k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 A lot of people measure in improper locations. When its a windy storm, if you measure on your deck or something, you might have significant inflation from roof drift...or even just spots relatively close to your house. Even spots near a grove of pine trees are bad if it is on the lee side...as any snow the pines catch will fall down into that region. I usually use a 10 measurement mean in windy storms, but you have to remember where you are measuring. It's pretty tough where I am. The wind is a killer. I try to go all over the place, and then just give it my best shot given the obs and measurements I come up with. I think it works pretty well, but again...it's the best I can do. Not having a nice flat yard makes it tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 It's pretty tough where I am. The wind is a killer. I try to go all over the place, and then just give it my best shot given the obs and measurements I come up with. I think it works pretty well, but again...it's the best I can do. Not having a nice flat yard makes it tough. It would be nasty in storms like Boxing day. Some storms though have less wind and its quite easy. The easiest measurement I have taken over the past 2 winters was the 2/24/10 elevated wet snow bomb....almost zero wind in that with parachutes falling straight down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Harrisburg area getting crushed again. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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