Typhoon Tip Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 As an after thought to that... boy would the D5'ish time period by way of the Euro/UKMET be a nice time to have a TC rattling around the Bahamas! Subtropical ridge in the Atlantic fights back against this "somewhat" unseasonable romp into autumn, and bulges west; meanwhile, the lower troposphere features an anticyclone (current) then migrating E and situating the entire MA/NE in a return deep layer SSE flow. That's the kind of air mass that gives you the old Bermuda blue heavens, with the bright white tropical towers and 2 pixel showers. Alas, I have never seen a TC time with that sort of conveyor.. .It's always a scenario of tooth and nail to get one to thread the needle on some mid latitude trough timing. Why that is may be coincidental or perhaps deeper, who knows, but if a TC were ever nearing the outer Bahamas with that sort of set up it would be a rail service to BTV via LI with ease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 It was interesting that so many calm overnight wind measures struggled to get below 40F ... There were a few 37's, such as Norwood and Bedford...probably Pittsfield I would imagine, but most places were between 40 and 45 - even ORH. Not much of a frost threat there, but a few in-between-sites, such as Barre did dip to 35, so there must have been some light frost here and there. Good call to NWS; I was thinking they should spread the frost advisory a bit more liberally around given to the fact that the threat was a solid 2 week early and plenty of gardening/out door interests will be trying to squeeze what they can out of that time. But I think in the end the subtle tendency in the Euro/NAM cluster to lower the magnitude of the chill seemed to work out. Not much more than a cool, autumnal feel to the night, and though we may only make 64 for high, with calm winds and sun still slightly on the south side of the equinox, it's really pretty darn spectacular out there. Great day for tennis, disk golf, or just going for nice 5 mile run - which I intend to do later on. Milder weather may not be through - of course. The 00z Euro was interesting with larger domain recovery east of the MV longitudes, with relatively warm 850s taking over gradually by D4 clear to northern NE. Nice days up to then, too. Pittsfield bottomed out at 36, many places on the East slope fell to AOB the freezing mark. Even hilltops like Peru at 1900' dropped to 34. I had frost as did Hubbdave closer to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Pittsfield bottomed out at 36, many places on the East slope fell to AOB the freezing mark. Even hilltops like Peru at 1900' dropped to 34. I had frost as did Hubbdave closer to you. We probably could have bottomed out a few more degrees, but that pesky cirrus earlier didn't allow it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Yesterday on the rockpile: Still some for the tourists on top of the Adams bldg: http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/cam/deck/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 36 was it here. I know I awoke to a lot of cirrus so maybe that mucked it up. I woke up too late to tell you if there was any patchy ground frost...probably not quite. Pittsfield bottomed out at 36, many places on the East slope fell to AOB the freezing mark. Even hilltops like Peru at 1900' dropped to 34. I had frost as did Hubbdave closer to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 We probably could have bottomed out a few more degrees, but that pesky cirrus earlier didn't allow it to happen. Yes, I was wondering about that too, at sunset last night whether that film would be an issue. Also, I think the still pervasive and green vegetation helps off-set a purer radiative cooling scenarios - though admittedly that is my own hypothesis. The thing is, there is a ton of evapotran, as well as straight up soil moisture due to all this positive rain anomaly over the past few weeks, and that may have infused a lot of DP back into the air mass as it came ESE out of the upper MW, across the still warm GL, and down through the forested regions of the area. I like a good yellow and red tree tops with falling leaves to get decent frost on the pumpkin. This air mass started looking unequal to the task over the last day and a half of modeling and seeing most NWS official sites be 37 at best, most 43'ish, isn't really cutting it for me. Yes yes, you are always going to get valid exceptions in between the dominant signal, so those slope readings out there are entirely understandable. If this air mass had come stright SSE like a Montreal Express, then the wind cut calm, different story perhaps...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 We probably could have bottomed out a few more degrees, but that pesky cirrus earlier didn't allow it to happen. Got up at 3:30am for a while and it was clear so that put us into the money. Also started the evening clear as a bell with calm winds. I've been outside all morning and the skeeters are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Yes, I was wondering about that too, at sunset last night whether that film would be an issue. Also, I think the still pervasive and green vegetation helps off-set a purer radiative cooling scenarios - though admittedly that is my own hypothesis. The thing is, there is a ton of evapotran, as well as straight up soil moisture due to all this positive rain anomaly over the past few weeks, and that may have infused a lot of DP back into the air mass as it came ESE out of the upper MW, across the still warm GL, and down through the forested regions of the area. I like a good yellow and red tree tops with falling leaves to get decent frost on the pumpkin. This air mass started looking unequal to the task over the last day and a half of modeling and seeing most NWS official sites be 37 at best, most 43'ish, isn't really cutting it for me. Yes yes, you are always going to get valid exceptions in between the dominant signal, so those slope readings out there are entirely understandable. If this air mass had come stright SSE like a Montreal Express, then the wind cut calm, different story perhaps...? I think the dews were modeled correctly on MOS to within a degree or so, but take OWD for example. They were above MAV and MET for the low by 2-4 degrees. There could be something to your hypothesis though. It does make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 56.9 / 41 low of 39.6 last night in shrewsbury. temps remained steady between 11 pm and 1 am last night as a result of some cloud cover that worked in during the night that def kept it from being a more widespread frost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Why do people hate the NE forum? The bigger question is, why do you all care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 45 here for the low AWT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 45 here for the low AWT That blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 45 here for the low AWT Check your PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 60/40 Best September 17th ever :sun: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Looking forward to going outside in a bit...seems really nice out, sun beating right in front of my face as my computer is situated right in front of the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 That blows. CAA is the only way the hilltops get the lowest lows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 CAA is the only way the hilltops get the lowest lows You would have been below that if it weren't for the clouds. Me FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 The bigger question is, why do you all care? lol... I def. don't give a shyte... with the witty banter and expert analysis (Wiz the Wedding Planner, Scooter, the Weenie), how could someone not love us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 lol... I def. don't give a shyte... with the witty banter and expert analysis (Wiz the Wedding Planner, Scooter, the Weenie), how could someone not love us? They have obvious deficiencies that make them bitter. We're the smarter, better looking, better adjusted older sibling. They seethe with contempt for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 56/38 (holding in the low 50's across the high terrain), sunny skies and crisp Autumn air. Just had a delicious apple right off the tree. Nothing finer than Autumn in New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 56/38 (holding in the low 50's across the high terrain), sunny skies and crisp Autumn air. Just had a delicious apple right off the tree. Nothing finer than Autumn in New England. Winter... did you forget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 56/38 (holding in the low 50's across the high terrain), sunny skies and crisp Autumn air. Just had a delicious apple right off the tree. Nothing finer than Autumn in New England. Just about the same here... we'll probably max around 60-63F, then back down into the 30s tonight. I love these 30F diurnal swings in the mountain valleys. First frost/freeze with a low of 32F (31.8F)... beautiful white fields this morning with frost glistening in the morning sunlight. Growing season is ovah. High terrain still holding in the upper 30s at the top of the lifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Just about the same here... we'll probably max around 60-63F, then back down into the 30s tonight. I love these 30F diurnal swings in the mountain valleys. First frost/freeze with a low of 32F (31.8F)... beautiful white fields this morning with frost glistening in the morning sunlight. Growing season is ovah. High terrain still holding in the upper 30s at the top of the lifts. When is the 'blow out the mice' party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Incredible day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Where have you gone all you snow weenies.....our nation turns it's lonely yes to you....time to concentrate. The wxfella snow/cold persona has returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 You would have been below that if it weren't for the clouds. Me FTW. Nope You FTL Me FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Nope You FTL Me FTW You lost the overall bet pretty easily guaranteeing during the cold snap that you wouldnt get below 44F. Some clouds last night prevented it from happening two days in a row...but it was an easy win for Scooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJBASHB Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Frosty but not freezing this morning. KAFN got to 34 and the local stations got to 34 and 37.9. 34.3 IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Frosty but not freezing this morning. KAFN got to 34 and the local stations got to 34 and 37.9. 34.3 IMBY. Matches up well with what I saw. 33.4, and I think my thermometer is a degree or so off... frost on roofs, some grass, deck railings this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 When is the 'blow out the mice' party? November 1st is when we start snowmaking operations. Of course, we could make snow occasionally in October but its not worth the time, energy, and money to do it when opening day isn't until the weekend before Thanksgiving. Stowe doesn't do what some mountains will do such as fire up a few guns during that first cold night in October (Killington, Sunday River, Bretton Woods, Sugarloaf usually do). November 1st will be the day the system goes online here provided temps are cold enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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