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For the next event, 12z NAM is still somewhat impressive for QPF, particularly from COS or just south of there down to PUB and the adjacent E/SE plains. GFS not so much as it looks like crap and shears this out. Will be interesting to see what ECMWF entails. This might be a pretty decent event for areas along and south of the palmer divide. Looking pretty good right now for areas along the KS border.

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So the first storm completely busted but last night we got some and I don't know what caused it but we had enough snow to coat everything. Looks like it was about a half inch. I shot a really nice pic but with a 14mp camera and a limit of 1.95 megabytes its just not going to work on this site. Do I ever get more space?

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So the first storm completely busted but last night we got some and I don't know what caused it but we had enough snow to coat everything. Looks like it was about a half inch. I shot a really nice pic but with a 14mp camera and a limit of 1.95 megabytes its just not going to work on this site. Do I ever get more space?

Just convert it to a smaller image file...or upload it to something like img url then download it back to your pc.

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For the next event, 12z NAM is still somewhat impressive for QPF, particularly from COS or just south of there down to PUB and the adjacent E/SE plains. GFS not so much as it looks like crap and shears this out. Will be interesting to see what ECMWF entails. This might be a pretty decent event for areas along and south of the palmer divide. Looking pretty good right now for areas along the KS border.

I am just reading this off the NWS web site. It says 1-3 inches for the metro area.

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...HIGH WIND WARNING IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 6 PM MST SATURDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN DENVER HAS ISSUED A HIGH WIND WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 6 PM MST SATURDAY. THE HIGH WIND WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* TIMING...WESTERLY WINDS WILL INCREASE ACROSS THE FRONT RANGE FOOTHILLS AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT AND CONTINUE THROUGH SATURDAY.

* WINDS...WEST WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 30 TO 50 MPH WITH GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 75 MPH POSSIBLE LATE TONIGHT AND SATURDAY. THE STRONGEST WINDS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS WESTERN BOULDER AND WESTERN LARIMER COUNTIES WHERE A FEW GUSTS MAY REACH 100 MPH.

* IMPACTS...TRAVEL ACROSS NORTH TO SOUTH HIGHWAYS AND ROADS WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT DUE TO STRONG AND GUSTY CROSS WINDS. AREAS SUSCEPTIBLE TO HIGH WINDS INCLUDE...HIGHWAY 93 BETWEEN GOLDEN AND BOULDER...HIGHWAY C-470 ALONG THE FOOTHILLS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY...U.S. HIGHWAY 36 BETWEEN BROOMFIELD AND ESTES PARK...U.S. HIGHWAY 287 FROM LAFAYETTE TO THE WYOMING BORDER...AS WELL AS THE CARTER LAKE AND HORSETOOTH RESERVOIR AREAS IN LARIMER COUNTY.

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Insane windstorm at Monarch Pass! Winds sustained at 84 kt, gusts to 97 kt! That's 97 mph, gusts to 112.

KMYP 130305Z AUTO 26068G94KT 3/4SM -TSSN OVC017 M05/M08 A2977 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT SE=

KMYP 130325Z AUTO 27078G89KT 1 1/2SM -TSSN OVC015 M05/M08 A2974 RMK AO2 VIS 3/4V3 LTG DSNT SE=

KMYP 130345Z AUTO 27074G97KT 3/4SM -TSSN BKN009 OVC013 M05/M08 A2974 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT SE AND S=

KMYP 130405Z AUTO 27084G92KT 3/4SM -SN OVC013 M05/M08 A2972 RMK AO2 LTG DSNT S=

KMYP 130425Z AUTO 27075G93KT 1 1/4SM -SN OVC011 M05/M07 A2977 RMK AO2 VIS 3/4V2 1/2=

KMYP 130445Z AUTO 26074G95KT 1 3/4SM -SN OVC011 M05/M08 A2976 RMK AO2=

KMYP 130505Z AUTO 26071G85KT 4SM -SN OVC011 M06/M08 A2980 RMK AO2=

KMYP 130524Z AUTO 26067G82KT 7SM -SN OVC011 M06/M08 A2981 RMK AO2=

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We got wind gusts in the 30's and 40's.

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PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...SUMMARY  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DENVER CO
958 AM MST SUN NOV 13 2011

.TIME...   ...EVENT...      ...CITY LOCATION... 	...LAT.LON

.DATE...   ....MAG....      ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.

           ..REMARKS..  

0200 AM 	NON-TSTM WND GST 5 S FRISCO              39.51N 106.10W  
11/13/2011  M115 MPH 		SUMMIT 			CO   TRAINED SPOTTER   

0200 AM 	NON-TSTM WND GST 2 SSW LOVELAND PASS 	39.64N 105.89W  
11/13/2011  M100 MPH 		SUMMIT 			CO   TRAINED SPOTTER   

1224 AM 	NON-TSTM WND GST 2 WNW ASPEN SPRINGS 	39.84N 105.52W  
11/13/2011  M87.00 MPH   	GILPIN 			CO   MESONET   		



1030 PM 	NON-TSTM WND GST 3 SSW BOULDER   		39.98N 105.27W  
11/12/2011  M90.00 MPH   	BOULDER            CO   MESONET   		

           NCAR MESA LAB  

1030 PM 	NON-TSTM WND GST 3 SSW BOULDER   		39.99N 105.27W  
11/12/2011  M90.00 MPH   	BOULDER            CO   MESONET   		

           NCAR MESA LAB  

1027 PM 	NON-TSTM WND GST SSE ASPEN SPRINGS   	39.83N 105.48W  
11/12/2011  M83.00 MPH   	GILPIN 			CO   MESONET   		

1000 PM 	NON-TSTM WND GST LOVELAND PASS   		39.67N 105.88W  
11/12/2011  M84.00 MPH   	CLEAR CREEK        CO   TRAINED SPOTTER   

0945 PM 	NON-TSTM WND GST KENOSHA PASS            39.41N 105.76W  
11/12/2011  M101 MPH 		PARK   			CO   DEPT OF HIGHWAYS  

0930 PM 	NON-TSTM WND GST 6 NNW BERTHOUD PASS 	39.88N 105.82W  
11/12/2011  M109 MPH 		GRAND              CO   TRAINED SPOTTER   

0929 PM 	NON-TSTM WND GST DUMONT                  39.78N 105.60W  
11/12/2011  M80.00 MPH   	CLEAR CREEK        CO   MESONET   		

0917 PM 	NON-TSTM WND GST SSE BERTHOUD PASS   	39.80N 105.78W  
11/12/2011  M113 MPH 		CLEAR CREEK        CO   AWOS              

           SUSTAINED WINDS 86 MPH. MINES PEAK SUMMIT 12500 FEET.  
0857 PM 	NON-TSTM WND GST SSE BERTHOUD PASS   	39.79N 105.77W  
11/12/2011  M112 MPH 		CLEAR CREEK        CO   AWOS              

           SUSTAINED WINDS 84 MPH. MINES PEAK SUMMIT 12500 FEET.  

Southern Wyoming (Sierra Madre... Encampment area)

0600 PM HEAVY SNOW 10 WSW ENCAMPMENT 41.15N 106.97W 11/13/2011 E40.5 INCH CARBON WY MESONET OLD BATTLE SNOTEL SITE AT 10000 FT. SWE 2.7. RATIO 15-1

0600 PM HEAVY SNOW 3 SW HOG PARK RESERVOIR 41.00N 106.91W 11/13/2011 E31.5 INCH ROUTT CO MESONET WHISKEY PARK SNOTEL SITE AT 8950 FT. SWE 2.1. RATIO 15-1. LOCATED 28 MI E OF SAVERY.

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The wind was crazy this weekend. I woke up Saturday morning to my patio furniture being tossed around the deck like rag dolls. It literally sounded like someone was taking the chairs and throwing them against the walls. The power flickered all morning until about 10AM, then it went out completely (just as I turned on the coffee maker and started making breakfast on the electric stove). The wind at my place was very erratic, seeming to come from every direction (likely because I'm in the canyon). I headed down into Boulder, parked my truck at the office, and then rode my bike to the CU-Arizona football game. I was about 2 feet away from being hit by a medium-sized falling tree limb on Boulder Creek Path. There were times when you literally had to stop walking and get into a broad stance to keep your balance. The wind certainly helped CU pull out its first home win this season. I bought a ridiculously overpriced 20 oz. bottle of water at the game ($3.75). I took one sip from it, set it down under the bleacher I was sitting on, went to grab it 2 minutes later, and obviously, it had blown away (with probably 18 oz. of water in it). By the 4th quarter, the temperature had dropped substantially and the sun was far enough west to be shrouded by the clouds that were up over the mountains. My girlfriend and I went up to Gold Hill last night to see some music at the Gold Hill Inn and were rewarded with dumping snow as a pretty strong band raced through from about 5-730PM. Glad we were able to see some snow from this storm, though had to drive up a couple thousand feet for that to happen!

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Most locations didn't get as much snow as predicted. Interesting NWS AFD yesterday talked about how the high winds caused the snow factory to literally blow itself apart!

/ISSUED 301 PM MST SUN NOV 13 2011/

SHORT TERM...UPPER TROUGH OVER WESTERN COLORADO WILL CONTINUE

MOVING EAST INTO THE GREAT PLAINS MONDAY. THIS WILL BRING MODERATE

TO STRONG NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT TONIGHT AND TOMORROW. THE SNOW

ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TROUGH HAS BEGUN TO BREAK UP AND BECOME MORE

SHOWERY. WITH THE QUICKER MOVEMENT AND THE SHOWERY PATTERN...WILL

MORE THAN LIKELY NEED TO EXPIRE THE CURRENT WINTER STORM WARNING FOR

THE MOUNTAINS EARLIER THAN ITS ORIGINAL TIME OF MIDNIGHT. SO FAR

OBSERVATIONS HAVE SHOWN UP TO 16 INCHES HAD FALLEN OVER THE

MOUNTAINS NEAR RABBIT EARS PASS...UP TO 13 INCHES OVER THE MOUNTAINS

IN AND NEAR ROCKY MOUNTAIN NATIONAL PARK...AND ONLY UP TO ABOUT 5

INCHES OVER THE CENTRAL MOUNTAINS INCLUDING SUMMIT COUNTY. ITS

BELIEVED THAT THE VERY STRONG WINDS WITH THIS SYSTEM...GUSTS UP TO

115 MPH RECORDED...HAD SHEARED THE SYSTEM APART AS IT MOVED SOUTH

TOWARD THE I70 CORRIDOR.

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Well, after a windy warm day on Friday the 18th, things have calmed down and been in the 40's and low 50's. It looks like the next few days will be warm. It looks like the real cooling will come in on Friday night with the cold front, with 30 or 40 mph wind gusts from the Northwest. I'm not sure if Friday will be 61 as this indicates.

MOS numbers

GFSX MOS (MEX)  KFNL 	28  62| 31  64| 32  61| 25  50| 22  64| 29  51| 23  47| 

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The models are showing some light snow Wednesday night or Thursday morning. I am seeing some pretty good agreement on this, so I will call for 75% chance of snow for the Front Range. It doesn't appear it would be too much accumulation, but temperatures could drop down to 20 very quickly. In fact the GFS 2-meter temperatures shows -10C (14F) on Friday after the storm.

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Nice to have something to talk about later this week... though I can't really say I've minded being outside the past few days.:sun:

Apropos of cold weather (but not much else), I notice that Fraser, CO is often the coldest spot in the Lower 48. Is there something about this- maybe where the recording station is located - other than it's in a high valley? There seem to be plenty of high valley sites on Wunderground, etc but the Fraser temp always seems colder. When I've been there, it seems appropriately cold but not crazy.

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Nice to have something to talk about later this week... though I can't really say I've minded being outside the past few days.:sun:

Apropos of cold weather (but not much else), I notice that Fraser, CO is often the coldest spot in the Lower 48. Is there something about this- maybe where the recording station is located - other than it's in a high valley? There seem to be plenty of high valley sites on Wunderground, etc but the Fraser temp always seems colder. When I've been there, it seems appropriately cold but not crazy.

I've always heard that the Fraser Valley area near Winter Park is situated in a way that promotes cold and clouds. Fraser is kind of at the end of a valley. There are high mountains to the west, south, east, AND north of it. It is almost entirely surrounded. To get out of Fraser without going over a huge mountain, there is only about a 2 mile gap toward the NW, where US 40 runs. I believe this makes it much easier for cold air to get dammed in this area without wind coming in to mix it out. A NW wind would conceivably mix out the dammed cold air more readily, but this would already likely be a cold wind, since it is from the NW. Also, any cold air drainage from the surrounding mountains is coming from nearly all directions and from very high areas over 13,000 feet. A lot of this is just based on my reasoning right now so feel free to correct any deficiencies.

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The models are showing some light snow Wednesday night or Thursday morning. I am seeing some pretty good agreement on this, so I will call for 75% chance of snow for the Front Range. It doesn't appear it would be too much accumulation, but temperatures could drop down to 20 very quickly. In fact the GFS 2-meter temperatures shows -10C (14F) on Friday after the storm.

Probably will be easily colder than that, at least here. 9news already showing a high of 26 on Thursday, followed by a low of 8 Friday a.m.

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