LocoAko Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 First off, the Office of the New Jersey State Climatologist has just published an awesome overview of the historical rains that have hit New Jersey during the month of August. It can be viewed here and is definitely worth checking out. The average rainfall in NJ was 16.64" (with some locations surpassing 2 feet), beating the previous record by almost 5". Unreal. Of further interest, research courtesy of mgerb shows that the return period of this event for New Brunswick, NJ, which received a total of 21.03" of rain in August, is more than 1 in 1000 years. The 1-in-1000 return interval rainfall total is 20.3". This is with a 90% confidence interval. Even more impressive, the 1-in-1000 return interval rainfall total for Seabrook Farms, NJ, is 21.8". Their 30-day total is 27.58", making this a decidedly once in multi-millennia year event for many locations in the state. Some astounding statistics, for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I believe the flooding in the summer of 2004 that devastated the Medford Lakes area in SJ was considered a 1000 year event. We're certainly making a lot of weather history this decade... I'll never forget the canoe bent around a tree that was like six feet off the ground. Kind of an iconic image of the event around here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgerb Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I'll bump this One small clarification: The 21.03" at New Brunswick was over the last 30 days, not August (August "only" had 17.43" at New Brunswick). In any case, I agree....there are some amazing stats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I'm curious how would 25" (Philly since August 1) rank on the scale of "once in" status? 1500 years? Longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Once in my lifetime is enough for me Just talked to a buddy of mine in Springfield, NJ...there was water damage at his home and his wife's family business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 I'm curious how would 25" (Philly since August 1) rank on the scale of "once in" status? 1500 years? Longer? I can't find your statistics that show 25" for Philly, but assuming that's right and is from August 1 - now, the return period for 25" in 45 days is greater than 1-in-1000, yes (that's as far as the scale goes). A 1-in-1000 year 45-day rainfall total for Philadelphia is 22.3". You can find this all here: http://hdsc.nws.noaa.gov/hdsc/pfds/pfds_map_cont.html?bkmrk=nj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Record rains, record heat with 100+ temps, record snows, earthquake, hurricane landfall, record cold coming this winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Record rains, record heat with 100+ temps, record snows, earthquake, hurricane landfall, record cold coming this winter? There will probably be very little snow this winter locally, as I am having a brand new snowblower delivered tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 There will probably be very little snow this winter locally, as I am having a brand new snowblower delivered tomorrow. Great, thanks Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Great, thanks Mike You are far enough away from my area, so you may be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 There will probably be very little snow this winter locally, as I am having a brand new snowblower delivered tomorrow. That's ok, my Dad taking the snowblower back to WV, will offset you buying one. The last time it left? 2 winters ago. We all know what happened then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 That's ok, my Dad taking the snowblower back to WV, will offset you buying one. The last time it left? 2 winters ago. We all know what happened then. That works, this way if there is not much snow I will not get the full blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 You are far enough away from my area, so you may be okay. you are always welcomed to try it out at my house. Of course, us rural people in Macungie like these type of snowblowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 There will probably be very little snow this winter locally, as I am having a brand new snowblower delivered tomorrow. I actually debunked this last winter. A friend bought a snowblower the morning of the Boxing Day storm, but decided it was not big enough for his property. He called and asked if I just wanted to buy it from him before he returned it (we talked about them Christmas Eve) and I eagerly accepted. In the interim of waiting for him to arrive, I was silently panicking that I had jinxed the whole thing. My wife was more vocal and had a blast rubbing it in, but thankfully everything turned out OK and I had ol' betsy out there the next morning going to town. My neighbors thought I was being really nice by blowing them out, but truthfully, I was having too much fun to stop... Grothar, can you throw snow to Ohio with that thing or what? Here's my "KU strength" blower. Hoping she gets another workout this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 My neighbors thought I was being really nice by blowing them out, but truthfully, I was having too much fun to stop... Controversy erupts in Marlton, NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 you are always welcomed to try it out at my house. Of course, us rural people in Macungie like these type of snowblowers That is one jacked up looking snowblower. It must throw the snow a few blocks down the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Controversy erupts in Marlton, NJ It was the first time ever, I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 That is one jacked up looking snowblower. It must throw the snow a few blocks down the road! Good laugh- I guess it will blow snow to ohio but I rather aim it at NYC- they are always crying for snow. By the way Its not pimp my ride- it's pimp my blower. I have to put on chrome wheels, stero with boomboxes so the neighbors can here the bass tunes, headlights, foglights and running lights and of course a GPS to find my way around the neighborhood during a blizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 That works, this way if there is not much snow I will not get the full blame. Oh, we'll blame you or Lee anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksCO_PA Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 which is the more impressive all-time monthly record at Philly - the 19.31" of rain last month or the 51.5" of snow during FEB 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslotted Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 which is the more impressive all-time monthly record at Philly - the 19.31" of rain last month or the 51.5" of snow during FEB 2010? Phew boy, good question... I would have to say the rain totals last month simply because snowfall totals can be influenced by many different factors given the same QPF values. Using 7:1 ratios as a realistic (for a lot of the area) and arbitrary value, the 19.31" inches of rain would roughly translate to 135" of snow. I know they are not "like for like" and there are a myriad of other factors in play, but I still think the rain was the more impressive total. That being said, 51.5" of snow is nothing to sneeze at. I remember measuring ~43" of snow depth after the second Feb blizzard that year. I knew at the time, I had better document it because it may not happen again in my lifetime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wederwarrior Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Phew boy, good question... I would have to say the rain totals last month simply because snowfall totals can be influenced by many different factors given the same QPF values. Using 7:1 ratios as a realistic (for a lot of the area) and arbitrary value, the 19.31" inches of rain would roughly translate to 135" of snow. I know they are not "like for like" and there are a myriad of other factors in play, but I still think the rain was the more impressive total. That being said, 51.5" of snow is nothing to sneeze at. I remember measuring ~43" of snow depth after the second Feb blizzard that year. I knew at the time, I had better document it because it may not happen again in my lifetime... Or could these types of events be the new norm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 How did even this thread manage to become a snow thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 There will probably be very little snow this winter locally, as I am having a brand new snowblower delivered tomorrow. That's good, the last two winters were painful to watch from a distance and not be able to get in on the best fun (2/10/10 and 1/26/11). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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