The Iceman Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Tom Corbett says major flooding is possible. Hold the GD presses. lol i wouldnt be shocked if he was one of the idiots that drives into high water.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 This picture is absurd. I guess they just said f*** it with trying to predict how high it will go. Any guesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 He is clueless. imo, I thought he was bad last night. he should have let the PEMA director speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 the susquehanna at marietta is expected to come within 2ft of the record crest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r-ville Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 lol i wouldnt be shocked if he was one of the idiots that drives into high water.. No - but he might order his PSP driver to do that. Really though, he is an embarrassment. Most on here could have given a better PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Looking at the tabular data for the Susq River at Harrisburg: 09/10 03:0029ft773kcfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 This picture is absurd. I guess they just said f*** it with trying to predict how high it will go. Any guesses? wow not sure i've ever seen that... looking at radar skys the limit for how high it will go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 No - but he might order his PSP driver to do that. Really though, he is an embarrassment. Most on here could have given a better PC. seriously this could be worse than agnes! and the best he can say is ehh major flooding is possible.,..he should be saying it's going to happen and people need to stay the hell of the roads and evacuate accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Updated AFD. Changed Hydro Section -- Changed Discussion --DEVASTATING/MAJOR FLOODING IS EXPECTED ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH OFTHE SUSQUEHANNA RIVER. ADDITIONAL RUNOFF FROM LAST NIGHTS HEAVYBANDS OF RAIN COMBINED WITH AN ADDITIONAL 1-2 INCHES OVER THENEXT 24 HOURS WILL LEAD TO CRESTS 1 TO 2 FEET HIGHER ON THE MAINSTEM THAN THE PREVIOUS ISSUANCE. THE LATEST FORECAST CRESTS ON THESUSQUEHANNA ARE GENERALLY EXPECTED TO BE JUST BELOW THE LEVELSEXPERIENCED DURING AGNES IN 1972. MAJOR TO RECORD FLOODING WILLCONTINUE ON THE SWATARA CREEK AND LOYALSOCKVILLE. MINOR FLOODINGIS NOW POSSIBLE AT WILLIAMSPORT...WITH MAJOR FLOODING ANTICIPATEDAT THE LOWER WEST BRANCH POINTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 In other words, this is Agnes redux. But a question for those more familiar with Agnes: Wasn't one of the bigger problems there the fact it rained so much within a day or two? I mean, yes MDT's seen like 16" rain since Sunday but it's been spread out over four days. With Agnes, wasn't it within like 24 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 The river has whitecaps! I've never seen the Susky whitecap before ... it's moving at just an incredibly rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 In other words, this is Agnes redux. But a question for those more familiar with Agnes: Wasn't one of the bigger problems there the fact it rained so much within a day or two? I mean, yes MDT's seen like 16" rain since Sunday but it's been spread out over four days. With Agnes, wasn't it within like 24 hours? I was only a puppy in 1972, but i think it rained for days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r-ville Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 The river has whitecaps! I've never seen the Susky whitecap before ... it's moving at just an incredibly rate. CA - I remember Agnes like it was just last year! Indeed, it was shorter in duration but the retro loop it did caught record rainfall to both basins of the Susq. The W Branch fllooded back towards Dubois (Major flood that is) this go around the W branch is only forecasted to reach moderate flooding - that MAY help - most watersheds feeding that branch are already below their anticipated crests - N branch feeders though, that's the rub. Agnes poured and I mean poured for like 30 continuous hours over most all of the basin - that's the only difference. Oh, and May 1972 was also very soggy. August 2011 not so much in the overall basin but in my region it received almost a foot in August from the 8" on 8/6 and 3" during Irene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 http://standardspeaker.com/news/mandatory-evacuation-ordered-in-wyoming-valley-1.1199825#axzz1XMx1rKYz WILKES-BARRE - Luzerne County officials have ordered the mandatory evacuation of about 120,000 residents of the Wyoming Valley by 4 this afternoon for all areas affected by the Agnes Flood of 1972. The deadline was advance four hours from its original 8 p.m. The Susquehanna River is expected to crest at 39.6 feet by 5 a.m. Friday, which would be the second-worst flooding event in the area's history. There is a 30 percent chance of a higher crest, officials said. The Wyoming Valley Levee System protects Wyoming Valley communities along the river up to 41 feet. Officials expressed confidence in the levee, but the projected crest is "coming too close for comfort," Emergency Management Agency director Steve Bekanich said at a press briefing this morning at EMA headquarters. "We do not anticipate any problems with the levee system. Forty feet is within the design. However, there is still uncertainly with what the forecast will be," said Jim Brozena, director of the Wyoming Valley Flood Protection Authority. The evacuation order is expected to last until at least Sunday for people who live along the levee system, and possible early next week for people in the low-lying areas, officials said. "This is going to be an extended evacuation," said Luzerne County Commissioner Stephen Urban. There are three shelters throughout the county for those affected by the evacuations. Evacuation centers are set up at Luzerne County Community College in Nanticoke, State Street Elementary in Larksville, and Pittston Area and Wyoming Area high schools. Officials said they are looking to open evacuation centers at GAR High School in Wilkes-Barre and Solomon/Plains Junior High School in Plains Township. They are also setting up three shelters in the Back Mountain area at Lake-Lehman High School, Dallas Middle School and Misericordia University. Pets are welcome at the shelters. "We are doing this with the safety of the citizens of the county in mind. We want to ensure folks have ample opportunity to get out of the area that will be impacted or has the potential to be impacted by this near record flooding situation that is affecting our area," Bekanich said. Read more: http://standardspeaker.com/news/mandatory-evacuation-ordered-in-wyoming-valley-1.1199825#ixzz1XN12bYoz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Did a quick road trip around the local area. Pretty amazing. Here's a pic of Rt 72 going into Manheim from the south. From what I was told, the water was over the headlights of the van earlier so things are receding a little in the smaller creeks (if you can call this "smaller"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Did a quick road trip around the local area. Pretty amazing. Here's a pic of Rt 72 going into Manheim from the south. From what I was told, the water was over the headlights of the van earlier so things are receding a little in the smaller creeks (if you can call this "smaller"). WOW i know exactly where that is and didn't even know there was a creek there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 WGAL is phenomenal. Radar looks like the bands are shifting west and starting to break up a bit more, perhaps the end (of the consistent rain) is in sight after all. Susky @ Harrisburg is at 21.5' now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 The way the roads keep closing around the harrisburg area, could be a lot of people stuck at work later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 And we're back. Power came back on about 15 minutes ago. I think I managed 45 minutes of sleep last night. When the power went out we raced downstairs to begin bailing the sump hole and it was all we could do to keep up with it. Luckily our neighbor has a generator and we got that hooked up after 30 minutes of bailing. Also went out and got our own generator this morning around 8AM....will have an electrician at the house next week to wire things up so we have sump pump, well pump, and septic pumps all ready to go...not going through this again. Rainfall total of 14.12" since Sunday night.....approximately the same amount Agnes dropped on the Lebanon Valley. Lots of friends and neighbors with flooded basements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 It looks like the swatara creek may crest somewhere close to 28'. Which would be 4' away from doubling there all-time record. How many times in national flood history over the last 50 years has a river all most doubled its all-time record? Whatever this does crest at I have a feeling it's going to be like those 1886' records we see now for future generations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r-ville Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 WGAL is phenomenal. Radar looks like the bands are shifting west and starting to break up a bit more, perhaps the end (of the consistent rain) is in sight after all. Susky @ Harrisburg is at 21.5' now. yep...looks like thankfully light rain showers the rest of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying MXZ Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 http://standardspeak...5#axzz1XMx1rKYz WILKES-BARRE - Luzerne County officials have ordered the mandatory evacuation of about 120,000 residents of the Wyoming Valley by 4 this afternoon for all areas affected by the Agnes Flood of 1972. The deadline was advance four hours from its original 8 p.m. The Susquehanna River is expected to crest at 39.6 feet by 5 a.m. Friday, which would be the second-worst flooding event in the area's history. There is a 30 percent chance of a higher crest, officials said. The Wyoming Valley Levee System protects Wyoming Valley communities along the river up to 41 feet. Forecast here now saying 40.7' for the crest at W-B. Way to close for comfort. http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=bgm&gage=wbrp1&view=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 What is your take on that 850 map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Current stage at WBRP1 is 33.01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Forecast here now saying 40.7' for the crest at W-B. Way to close Looking at your current radar, My thoughts and prayers are with you guys up there. It might top the levee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r-ville Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 What is your take on that 850 map? re-orientation of precip bans to a s/e-n/w direction. Atl moisture feed versus a deep tropical feed. DT feed not completely shut off but has to detour though Katia-ville first. More rain - pop up rogue cells could make it worse for any localized areas - deep lift and most unstable just to the west and east of the C PA region as well. No time to take a breath just yet. IIRC SKEW T do try to push in some dry air at H5 by this afternoon. 12z update will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 PSU Hazleton closing at 2pm and will be closed through Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Flood pics in the area http://www.facebook.com/WBRETV?sk=wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 heading out at 12 to take some pics of the conestoga and hopefully the susquehanna. not sure about that one though...hopefully i can find a way to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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