I have an idea - let's start a new talking points thread

[mahk_webstah]

Wow I am finally accepting that the horror show is continuing. No accumulating snow over 1 inch since late Feb. That might soon be 10 months here at 700 ft 15 miles nw of concord. This is a true horror show for snow lovers. No double digit storm now for like 20+ months. We average close to 80 inches here.

Whew....I go to NYC and Florida from Dec 18-24....maybe something will change. DT has us at 150-200% for snowfall this year and JB is guaranteeing a white xmas! Lol....

[Allsnow]

I know....if you're seriously considering day 10 progs, then you need to have a gander at the 12z shrink.

I think the EURO should be subject to more scrutiny in the main forum, but as it pertains to the SNE subforum, it accurately portrayed that character of this impending gloom last wknd.

Im trying to have a conversation, and you just brought to the tabel insults and that im not educated enough to talk to. You have a bunch of skeltons in ur closet to be talking like this.

[Damage In Tolland]

I honestly think now that we're under 3 days the GFS is the way to go ..Still not an all snow event..but it makes the most sense..esp since we've seen the Euro come so far in it's direction. Painful for me to say this

[CoastalWx]

It was def not a day 10 prog......closer then that. Where it seem like other models where consistant on tracking that way south of us

Since 05/00z the euro has shown the potential for a mild storm. On this same run, the gfs gave us an advisory event for this Friday's clipper, and a blizzard on Monday. It wasn't until 00zon the 6th where the gfs showed potential for a milder event. My point was that so far, the euro has been the most consistent over the northeast. It may also have the right idea of not keeping ORD all snow too. Sure models waffle, but for much of the northeast, it has the right idea.

This argument is silly, because op models should NEVER be taken verbatim until within 6 days, and even that is generous. People should only care about how the last 4 days look on the models. In that sense...both models have a mild solution for most.

[Tropopause_Fold]

Im trying to have a conversation, and you just brought to the tabel insults and that im not educated enough to talk to. You have a bunch of skeltons in ur closet to be talking like this.

[Damage In Tolland]

For the most part is incorrect imo. The ultimate end point is roughly the same but how it got there is different. The 12z Euro run took a more NE track with the primary where the 00z run takes what looks almost due north. Sure it won't mean a lick of **** in the end but to say the Euro "track" has been steadfast is bs.

When you and I violently agree...people should give up thei arguments

[CoastalWx]

When you and I violently agree...people should give up thei arguments

[Allsnow]

Since 05/00z the euro has shown the potential for a mild storm. On this same run, the gfs gave us an advisory event for this Friday's clipper, and a blizzard on Monday. It wasn't until 00zon the 6th where the gfs showed potential for a milder event. My point was that so far, the euro has been the most consistent over the northeast. It may also have the right idea of not keeping ORD all snow too. Sure models waffle, but for much of the northeast, it has the right idea.

This argument is silly, because op models should NEVER be taken verbatim until within 6 days, and even that is generous. People should only care about how the last 4 days look on the models. In that sense...both models have a mild solution for most.

Thanks for explaining it like this....it pretty much has been consistant with giving us rain.....i was just pointing out how close it could be to a place like ORD......and the finaly outcome is not written in stone yet.

[Baroclinic Zone]

When you and I violently agree...people should give up thei arguments

[Mr Torchey]

Phil, isn't it interesting that the little feature off the obx is now on the gfs and nam and actually delivers a bit of light snow/mix to sne on sun. I wonder if that signal will continue to be there over the next day or so.

[Tropopause_Fold]

Phil, isn't it interesting that the little feature off the obx is now on the gfs and nam and actually delivers a bit of light snow/mix to sne on sun. I wonder if that signal will continue to be there over the next day or so.

i think it might produce a little bit of light rain or sprinkles.

[CoastalWx]

Thanks for explaining it like this....it pretty much has been consistant with giving us rain.....i was just pointing out how close it could be to a place like ORD......and the finaly outcome is not written in stone yet.

There still is uncertainty for sure, so nothing is completely set in stone. Heck if the low develops more like the gfs has, it could be interesting down towards you and especially western NJ. When you have a high amplitude pattern like this, longitude is important. That further west you are, the better you'll be. Areas like western NJ up through western MA aren't out of the woods for some back end snow imo, and could very well see some.

[blizzard24]

THE blocking is forcing the storm to the south and reforming off the east coast and that will happen for the month of dec as we get closer to the storms , expect colder storms for last part of dec . For Southern New England area . Most models have trended east track in the last three days .

[Mr Torchey]

i think it might produce a little bit of light rain or sprinkles.

Nah, thats light snow and a few sleet pellets here.

[Damage In Tolland]

THE blocking is forcing the storm to the south and reforming off the east coast and that will happen for the month of dec as we get closer to the storms , expect colder storms for last part of dec . For Southern New England area . Most models have trended east track in the last three days .

[Tropopause_Fold]

Nah, thats light snow and a few sleet pellets here.

looks mighty warm to me...but ok.

[Damage In Tolland]

Actually the GFS has been pretty flip/floppy as well. This about the UKMET leading the way, so far.

[COPO]

There still is uncertainty for sure, so nothing is completely set in stone. Heck if the low develops more like the gfs has, it could be interesting down towards you and especially western NJ. When you have a high amplitude pattern like this, longitude is important. That further west you are, the better you'll be. Areas like western NJ up through western MA aren't out of the woods for some back end snow imo, and could very well see some.

Well the mets in this area are calling for sleet, snow, freezing rain and rain.

Guess you can't go wrong with a forecast like this.

[HoarfrostHubb]

Blizzard24 is back

All is right at Eastern American again

BOX has me pegged for Wintry Mix, Rain, Freezing Rain, Snow, and the Kitchen Sink

Right on target

[Damage In Tolland]

Blizzard24 is back

All is right at Eastern American again

BOX has me pegged for Wintry Mix, Rain, Freezing Rain, Snow, and the Kitchen Sink

Right on target

Makes sense given the colder/eastwrd trend towrds the GFS

[Tropopause_Fold]

LOL...nam takes the primary through Green Bay

[Baroclinic Zone]

looks mighty warm to me...but ok.

Yeah, surface temps. look warm.

[40/70 Benchmark]

Im trying to have a conversation, and you just brought to the tabel insults and that im not educated enough to talk to. You have a bunch of skeltons in ur closet to be talking like this.

I def. go a little heavy on the sarcasm, but I wasn't making any inferences with regard your intellect.....no offense.

[40/70 Benchmark]

He is the biggest weenie of them all.....if yoiu really wanna laugh, observe when he tries to seriously engage Lovern, Gibbs, HM and the crew.....they are just like of politely like ...."WTF".... LOL

[ROOSTA]

I'm going to take a triple dose of meds today. Between this(models and discussions thereof) and work I'll just go comfortably numb. All things must pass. Two great songs...LOL

[CT Rain]

When his posts start making their way into our threads you know we're cooked

[amarshall]

I need a xanax after reading through this whole thread. ENE screwed

[moneypitmike]

Blizzard24 is back

All is right at Eastern American again

BOX has me pegged for Wintry Mix, Rain, Freezing Rain, Snow, and the Kitchen Sink

Right on target

Not according to the NAM. It says no way on HRV. Lakes or bust!

[Mr Torchey]

wow 12z nam is reeeedeeeeculous, I mean are you kidding me? Thats an all out intergalacticplanetary mega torch for two days.

[mahk_webstah]

I say let it go up to the lakes, that reduces the southerly flow for us and then that energy can dive into the trough and bring something separate up the coast. HPC says we have a Greenland Block (not an east based block) for this storm. Maybe that block is not going the storm come bodily right into Central/Northern New England.