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No breaks in the overcast here and doesn't look like there'll be any. We're pretty socked in and looks like rain is finally moving in. Tornado watch next door in Alabama.....they really need that. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

They are about to get a Break with also some clearing in between those major rain bands. P.S. Hytop radar is def. underestimating rainfall totals tremendously! CHA area has recieved over 3.25 inches of rain in just the past 3 hours! Radar only showing about a little over .5 inch. The heaviest axis of Rain is still west and south of the area. I could easily see 8-10 inches now moving into this area and the simple fact that we have not even gotten the Heavy stuff yet. Wow! CHA may break the all time wettest day record which was like 7.61". Kinda wild after the Driest Month ever on record!

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hmmmm....did you read gsp's afd? maybe thats not all bad lol.

... If for whatever reason some breaks in the overcast develop into NE Georgia and the upstate of SC...watch out. Think the slight risk looks good and a mention will be made in the severe weather potential statement...

Yeah I'm more interested in the severe chances now , and less in the heavy rain chances. The new NAM looks reasonable with the surface low coming across GA into extreme western SC by 36 hours, placing the best lift in the mtns and up the Apps chain...dryslotting pretty quickly for central GA and most of SC. The wedge that I thought (and the GFS and ECMWF) for Tuesday doesn't look too likely now for NC, so that will probably shift any convergence to VA and Wva. Just seen its totals and now has only 1.75" in my area, tapering quickly downward in SC and quickly upward for nw NC. Sigh...if the 12Z GFS comes in similar, I'm going to be pretty disgusted. For now, I'm keeping my expectations for 2 to 3", but with the bands coming in, its going to be different from one county to the next, just depends on the orientation of the streamers and who gets into good ones, and who doesn't.

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CAE is holding on to the possibility of heavy rain....I'm still not holding my breath :lol:

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/...

CAE RADAR SHOWED A FEW SPOTTY SHOWERS MOVED THROUGH THIS MORNING.

BEST RADAR COVERAGE IS UP IN THE GSP CWA WHERE SHOWERS CONTINUE TO

MOVE ACROSS THAT PART OF SOUTH CAROLINA. MORE SHOWERS ARE JUST

OFFSHORE OF CHS. ALL ACTIVITY IS MOVING NORTHEAST ABOUT 15 KNOTS.

IR SATELLITE LOOPS SHOWS THERE MAY BE A BRIEF BREAK IN CONVECTIVE

ACTIVITY FOR ABOUT ANOTHER 2-3 HOURS AS THERE ARE A FEW BREAKS IN

THE CLOUD COVER OVER EAST GEORGIA MOVING OUR WAY. BUT EXPECTED TO

FILL BACK IN BY EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. OTHERWISE...UPPER TROUGH

THAT PICKED UP LEE IS STILL TO THE WEST PULLING UP TROPICAL

MOISTURE INTO THE REGION. THE FORECAST FOR THE REMNANTS OF TS LEE

MOVE THE SYSTEM SLOWLY TO THE NE WITH THE CENTER OF THE SYSTEM

JUST MOVING INTO NRN/CNTRL ALABAMA TONIGHT. MODEL TIME SECTIONS

ARE QUITE MOIST TODAY INTO TONIGHT. ENSEMBLE POPS ALONG WITH

GUIDANCE POPS ARE PRETTY HIGH IN THE LIKELY/CATEGORICAL RANGE.

WILL CONTINUE WITH INCREASING POPS THROUGH THE DAY INTO TONIGHT.

MODELS INDICATE INCREASING ISENTROPIC LIFT THROUGH THE DAY...WITH

BEST LIFT ACROSS THE UPSTATE THROUGH TONIGHT. SPC HAS PORTION OF

THE SOUTHEAST INCLUDING THE CSRA UNDER A SLIGHT RISK FOR SEVERE

STORMS...MAINLY FOR THIS AFTERNOON/TONIGHT. THE LOW LEVEL WIND

FIELD WILL BE INCREASING THROUGH THE PERIOD...ESPECIALLY LATER

TONIGHT WITH INCREASING SHEAR AND MODERATE INSTABILITY. THERE IS A

MARGINAL RISK OF SEVERE WEATHER THIS AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH WEAKER

THIS AFTERNOON THAN TONIGHT AND INTO TUESDAY...MAY BE ENOUGH SHEAR

FOR AN ISOLATED TORNADO. THERE IS ALSO THE POSSIBILITY OF LOCALLY

HEAVY RAIN WITH SHRA/TSRA AS PW VALUES WILL BE INCREASING TO ABOVE

2.0 INCHES. AS FOR TEMPERATURES...GUIDANCE AND LOCAL MODELS

SHOWING A BIT OF A SPREAD...BUT WILL STAY NEAR CONSENSUS FOR

TEMPERATURES...BUT ABOVE CONSENSUS FOR POPS.

&&

.SHORT TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT/...

THE NAM CONTINUES TO BE THE FASTEST OF THE MODELS WITH THE

MOVEMENT OF THE REMNANTS OF LEE. THE SLOWER ECMWF/GFS ARE

PREFERRED. THE FORECAST FOR THE REMNANTS OF LEE ARE EXPECTED TO

CONTINUE TO MOVE NORTHEAST AND BE LOCATED NEAR THE GA/TN LINE THEN

CONTINUING TO WEAKEN AND MOVE SLOWLY NORTHEAST ALONG THE SRN

APPALACHIANS. MAIN FORECAST ISSUE WILL BE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE

SHORT TERM WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF SEVERE WEATHER ACROSS THE

REGION ON TUESDAY...ESPECIALLY TUESDAY MORNING INTO THE EARLY

AFTERNOON HOURS. SPC HAS AREA OUTLOOKED FOR A SLIGHT RISK. BUFKIT

SOUNDINGS INDICATING PRETTY GOOD WIND PROFILES WITH H8 WINDS FROM

40 TO 50 KTS EARLY TUESDAY WITH AROUND 40 KTS OF SHEAR AND HELICITY

VALUES IN THE 150 TO 160 RANGE. AS THE REMNANTS OF LEE MOVE WEST

OF THE AREA ON TUESDAY...CWA WILL BE IN THE WARM SECTOR AND THE

AIRMASS IS EXPECTED TO BECOME MODERATELY UNSTABLE. THE FORECAST IS

FOR CLOUDY SKIES BUT ANY BREAKS COULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HEATING

FOR INCREASED INSTABILITY. LOCAL CONVECTIVE WORKSHEET INDICATES

GOOD SPIN DOWN CONDITIONS WITH LCL VALUES AROUND 2K FT AND LOW LFC

VALUES AROUND 3K FT. BRN/EHI/SWEAT VALUES INDICATE THE POTENTIAL

FOR SUPERCELL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF TORNADOES OF THE

TROPICAL VARIETY...WEAKER/SHORTER LIVED. THIS SITUATION WILL NEED

TO BE MONITORED FOR ANY CHANGES IN THE TRACK OF LEE AND ANY

CHANGES IN THE WIND FIELD FROM EARLY TUESDAY MORNING INTO THE

AFTERNOON HOURS. LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN THREAT WILL CONTINUE ON

TUESDAY WITH PW VALUES WELL ABOVE 2.0 INCHES. SEVERE THREAT AS

WELL AS HEAVY RAIN THREAT WILL DIMINISH WITH THE PASSAGE OF

FRONTAL BOUNDARY THROUGH THE AREA TUESDAY NIGHT. BY

WEDNESDAY...MODELS INDICATE MID/UPPER LEVEL CLOSED LOW TO OUR WEST

THAT WILL MOVE SLOWLY NORTHWARD THROUGH WED NIGHT. THIS WILL KEEP

DAYTIME TEMPERATURES COOLER THAN NORMAL FOR WEDNESDAY. AS FOR

TEMPERATURES/POPS THROUGH THE PERIOD...BIG DIFFERENCES SHOW UP ON

TUESDAY DUE TO TIMING/PLACEMENT ISSUES WITH PROGRESS OF LEE...BUT

BEGIN TO COME INTO BETTER ALIGNMENT BY WEDNESDAY. WILL STAY NEAR

CONSENSUS THROUGH THE PERIOD AND CLOSER TO HIGHER MAV POPS THROUGH

THE PERIOD.

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GSP NWS just issued several flood warnings for river flooding.

FLOOD WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG SC 1119 AM EDT MON SEP 5 2011 ...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG HAS ISSUED A FLOOD WARNING FOR THE FOLLOWING RIVERS IN NORTH CAROLINA... FRENCH BROAD RIVER AT BLANTYRE AFFECTING HENDERSON AND TRANSYLVANIA COUNTIES FRENCH BROAD RIVER IN NC AT HOT SPRINGS AFFECTING MADISON COUNTY FRENCH BROAD RIVER IN NC AT MARSHALL AFFECTING MADISON COUNTY SWANNANOA RIVER IN NC AT BILTMORE AFFECTING BUNCOMBE COUNTY TUCKASEGEE RIVER AT BRYSON CITY AFFECTING SWAIN COUNTY SOUTH FORK CATAWBA RIVER IN NC AT LOWELL AFFECTING GASTON COUNTY PIGEON RIVER IN NC AT CANTON AFFECTING HAYWOOD COUNTY BROAD RIVER IN NC AT BOILING SPRINGS AFFECTING CLEVELAND COUNTY .TROPICAL DEPRESSION LEE IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE VERY HEAVY RAIN ACROSS THE WESTERN CAROLINAS AND NORTHEAST GEORGIA. RUNOFF FROM THE HEAVY RAIN WILL CAUSE MOST RIVERS TO RISE ABOVE FLOOD STAGE. REMEMBER...RIVER STAGE FORECASTS ARE BASED ON OBSERVED AND FORECASTED RAINFALL. IF ACTUAL RAINFALL VARIES FROM THE FORECAST VALUES...THE RIVER STAGE WILL VARY ACCORDINGLY. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... SAFETY MESSAGE...DO NOT DRIVE CARS THROUGH FLOODED AREAS. REMEMBER... NIGHTIME MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO RECOGNIZE FLOODED AREAS. THE LATEST STAGES AND FORECASTS FOR RIVERS CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEB PAGE AT HTTP://NEWWEB.ERH.NO...DEX.PHP?WFO=GSP &&

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12z GFS is pitiful for the CLT metro. I doubt I see 0.10" over the next 24 hours.

NAM and new 12z GFS are in pretty good agreement how this works out. The piedmont and most of SC has lost the chance at enhanced rain from a damming event Tuesday, all the moisture should be from the foothills/APPS and points west, closer to the best lift on the northwest side of the circulation. The center of the low comes to southwest NC and northern GA, so basically central GA and most of SC gets little from this. Both give around 1.5" here, with a very tight gradient, so further west, increases quickly, futher east and south, decreases quickly. Drops only .10" to .25" in Columbia, even less in central GA around Macon. The 5" + is northern GA, southwest NC and southern TN and much of northern Alabama. Unless we get into some heavy convective bands that train, its no big deal around Charlotte or even west toward here...ramps up quickly though in the mountains. Hopefully the models are wrong, and we get into an axis of training moisture before the inevitable dry slot.

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It's obvious now that for the drought stricken areas of GA and SC that this is a nonevent. Like I said we need a hurricane to come up and hit the panhandle of Fla and move NE from there. Wont suprise me now to see less than inch of rain total between now and Thanksgiving. D4 drought here we come.

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It's obvious now that for the drought stricken areas of GA and SC that this is a nonevent. Like I said we need a hurricane to come up and hit the panhandle of Fla and move NE from there. Wont suprise me now to see less than inch of rain total between now and Thanksgiving. D4 drought here we come.

what was your total June-July-Aug totals? I know we're both in exceptional long-term drought. I feel quite lucky this Summer to have received a few good storms finally. Was almost normal for once.

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SPC

Later today...and continuing tonight through early Tuesday...embedded rotating structures/lewps may pose a threat for more isolated tornadoes and locally damaging wind gusts along the aforementioned frontogenetic zone as that feature develops east-northeastward from northern Georgia into western and central parts of the Carolinas.

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Chattanooga/ NW GA area is gonna be flooded for sure by the end of this! Pic of Gunbarrel Road in Chattanooga next to Hamilton Place Mall. Already since this morning Chatt has gotten 4.82 inches and the heaviest rain is still to come this afternoon and tonight. I expect at least another 4-5 inches!

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what was your total June-July-Aug totals? I know we're both in exceptional long-term drought. I feel quite lucky this Summer to have received a few good storms finally. Was almost normal for once.

I dont have exact totals but we did do decent in June and July but nothing much at all now for 3 weeks. I hope i'm wrong but for the region SE of I-85 I can easily see this being like the fall of 2001 where I went 2 and a half months without 1 drop of rain.

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NAM and new 12z GFS are in pretty good agreement how this works out. The piedmont and most of SC has lost the chance at enhanced rain from a damming event Tuesday, all the moisture should be from the foothills/APPS and points west, closer to the best lift on the northwest side of the circulation. The center of the low comes to southwest NC and northern GA, so basically central GA and most of SC gets little from this. Both give around 1.5" here, with a very tight gradient, so further west, increases quickly, futher east and south, decreases quickly. Drops only .10" to .25" in Columbia, even less in central GA around Macon. The 5" + is northern GA, southwest NC and southern TN and much of northern Alabama. Unless we get into some heavy convective bands that train, its no big deal around Charlotte or even west toward here...ramps up quickly though in the mountains. Hopefully the models are wrong, and we get into an axis of training moisture before the inevitable dry slot.

Last night @ the Stumptown festival in Matthews they were already posting signs that they would be shutting down today due to the weather. It is sunny and rather cool here now. Maybe they jumped the gun on that one.

Hope everyone has a great labor day!

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Chattanooga/ NW GA area is gonna be flooded for sure by the end of this! Pic of Gunbarrel Road in Chattanooga next to Hamilton Place Mall. Already since this morning Chatt has gotten 4.82 inches and the heaviest rain is still to come this afternoon and tonight. I expect at least another 4-5 inches!

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We are at 6.01 inches about 10 miles south from this picture in NW GA

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