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September 2011 General Discussion/Obs


Chicago Storm

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For those who get bored with the weather patterns they aren't looking far enough. Always something awesome going on.

I agree. For those of you in the Midwest longing for the season to come, check out MTBLANC's pics over in the Alaska/Western Canada thread. Beautiful country.

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I agree. For those of you in the Midwest longing for the season to come, check out MTBLANC's pics over in the Alaska/Western Canada thread. Beautiful country.

Yeah that thread is top notch. A must read.

Agreed, I enjoy the disco. I am glad I talked Patrick into starting it. Even K*** likes it.

For those who are bored with the weather, expand your minds. There is always something unique out there in the world of weather to learn about.

http://journals.amet...IO%3E2.0.CO%3B2

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IWX disco:

OTHERWISE MAIN FTR OF NOTE THIS PD WILL BE DEEP LYRD TROUGH DVLPMNT THROUGH ERN CANADA AND ASSOCIATED STG SFC RIDGING BLDG OUT OF CANADA MID-LT WEEK. GFS ENSEMBLE MOS SPREADS ARE CLOSE AND SPRT TRENDING TEMPS COOLER AGAIN ESP WED-FRI ATTENDANT TO PROXIMITY OF 1030+MB SFC RIDGE SETTLING IN ACRS THE GREAT LAKES. THIS COULD YIELD AN EARLY FROST NRN AREAS FRI MORNING.

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IWX disco:

OTHERWISE MAIN FTR OF NOTE THIS PD WILL BE DEEP LYRD TROUGH DVLPMNT THROUGH ERN CANADA AND ASSOCIATED STG SFC RIDGING BLDG OUT OF CANADA MID-LT WEEK. GFS ENSEMBLE MOS SPREADS ARE CLOSE AND SPRT TRENDING TEMPS COOLER AGAIN ESP WED-FRI ATTENDANT TO PROXIMITY OF 1030+MB SFC RIDGE SETTLING IN ACRS THE GREAT LAKES. THIS COULD YIELD AN EARLY FROST NRN AREAS FRI MORNING.

:stun:

I think we have a good shot at 30's here toward next weekend. Wouldn't predict frost yet though.

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I agree with T-snow. This pattern is pretty damn boring lol. Of course we've all been spoiled with some very interesting events/weather patterns the last year or so. Definitely can't always have something exciting to track, which only makes the good ones that much more interesting/exciting to track. I usually try to take advantage of the quiet weather to get the crap done that I blew off during the previous active weather pattern lol. :guitar:

I'll take boring now for active later. I wouldn't mind another big late season outbreak of severe weather though before we move into cooler weather.

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I think we have a good shot at 30's here toward next weekend. Wouldn't predict frost yet though.

I did a quick check of the earliest sub 40º low at LAF, and we've passed that date...August 29, 1965 with a low of 37º. That was surprising. Seems like the typical timeframe for the first sub 40º low is late September/early October...so if we pull it off Friday, for example, we'll be "ahead of schedule". The last 4 years it hasn't happened until October (in descending order starting with 2010: 10/4, 10/5, 10/2, and 10/13).

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A little humor from CLE in the AFD. After 3"+ already this month, and almost 45" YTD, we could use a break from the rain. Hopefully the abundance of rain will make for good leaf color this year.

LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/...

STILL FEEL THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK THAT A SHRA COULD STILL BE IN THE SNOWBELT PART OF THE AREA AROUND DAYBREAK FRI...OTHERWISE HIGH

PRESSURE AND DRY WEATHER SHOULD DOMINATE FRI THROUGH SUN BASED ON LATEST MODELS RUNS. HOWEVER...BASED ON THE PATTERN SO FAR THIS YEAR...TO EXPECT TO HAVE THREE DRY DAYS IN A ROW SEEMS TO BE JUST TOO MUCH OF A STRETCH SO AM EXPECTING TO SEE MODELS CHANGE BEFORE NEXT WEEKEND. BELOW NORMAL TEMPS FRI WILL MODERATE CLOSER TO NORMAL BY SUN. &&

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I did a quick check of the earliest sub 40º low at LAF, and we've passed that date...August 29, 1965 with a low of 37º. That was surprising. Seems like the typical timeframe for the first sub 40º low is late September/early October...so if we pull it off Friday, for example, we'll be "ahead of schedule". The last 4 years it hasn't happened until October (in descending order starting with 2010: 10/4, 10/5, 10/2, and 10/13).

00z GFS had a 2m temp of 35 on Friday. Obviously gonna depend on how well we can radiate. Looks like there may be a couple good nights for that.

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Records for Chicago, IL:

Thu 9/15 - 39 in 2007

Fri 9/16 - 37 in 1984

Records for Rockford, IL:

Thu 9/15 - 35 in 2007

Fri 9/16 - 34 in 1916

ORD record will likely be safe due to UHI and warm lake waters...and RFD will probably be safe, although with not as much confidence.

If RFD somehow manages to hit 33, it will be the 3rd earliest 33 or lower temp on record!

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Models are locked in on this and it's within 72 hours, so I'm starting to believe it. This is a fairly anomalous cold spell, 12z GFS MOS has KMSN hitting 35° F Wednesday and Thursday nights, which is near record lows. A freeze isn't out of the question in the rural areas (including KMSN), though I think it would be very hard for a freeze to happen in downtown Madison from this.

Gonna be a nice early taste of fall regardless :)

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The University of Wisconsin Nonhydrostatic Modeling System (UW-NMS) initialized with the GFS suggests possible snowfall just north of Lake Superior. http://cup.aos.wisc.edu/12zgfssfc.html

I can believe it. I looked at one of the GFS runs yesterday, and it suggested at least mixed precipitation over or just north of L Superior.

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