dryslot Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I don't know what was more frustrating, Waiting for irene to emerge back over water or the board crashes........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Down safely on the Cape...had to drive through a horrific band of rain though just south of the pike on the way. The more I go over data, the more impressed I get of the duration of potentially damaging winds over most of SNE. The duration is what could be a real killer for trees/branches. I expect a lot of power outages because of this. The rain certainly won't help matters either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 TWC pros discussing this idea we've bounced around on this thread: that Irene is not a classic hurricane in which we just focus on the "category" based on eye wall intensity and windspeed it was very disorganized past 48 hours, so the energy of intensification went into generating a very large strong windshield rather than high windspeeds of an intense eye the pressures are holding at 950 mb, quite amazing for the land interaction, and more fitting for a Cat 3 hurricane if Irene had an organized eye... instead we have a bigger impact over a much larger area, and probably will be slower to weaken than the typical hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Down safely on the Cape...had to drive through a horrific band of rain though just south of the pike on the way. The more I go over data, the more impressed I get of the duration of potentially damaging winds over most of SNE. The duration is what could be a real killer for trees/branches. I expect a lot of power outages because of this. The rain certainly won't help matters either. Will, I will be just west of Nashua, NH - I think I might get more wind there than in Danvers. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 things still on track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Down safely on the Cape...had to drive through a horrific band of rain though just south of the pike on the way. The more I go over data, the more impressed I get of the duration of potentially damaging winds over most of SNE. The duration is what could be a real killer for trees/branches. I expect a lot of power outages because of this. The rain certainly won't help matters either. Good to hear that from you Will. What are you thinking for sustained and gusts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 looks like if finally emerging around corolla, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 looks like if finally emerging around corolla, NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Will, I will be just west of Nashua, NH - I think I might get more wind there than in Danvers. Thoughts? Welcome to SNH...the real God's Country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Will, I will be just west of Nashua, NH - I think I might get more wind there than in Danvers. Thoughts? No, I would think Danvers will get higher winds unless you are up on an exposed hill or ridge line W of Nashua. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 And... 1) DAMAGING WINDS. IRENE HAS SUCH A BROAD CIRCULATION THAT DAMAGING WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE REGION. SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS...ON THE ORDER OF 45 TO 60 MPH...WILL OCCUR FOR MUCH OF THE DAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE REGION. GUSTS TO HURRICANE FORCE ARE ALSO LIKELY... ESPECIALLY ALONG THE SOUTH COAST...AND IN THE HIGHER TERRAIN .CLOSER TO THE CENTER OF IRENE. BUFKIT SOUNDINGS NO LONGER SHOW MUCH IN THE WAY OF AN INVERSION...WHICH MEANS THAT THESE STRONG DAMAGING WIND GUSTS ARE INDEED LIKELY TO REACH THE SURFACE. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SW TO WSW WINDS BEHIND IRENE WILL ALSO PROBABLY PACK A SIGNIFICANT PUNCH...WELL INTO THE EVENING HOURS. Yay. Just got back from MD. 8 hours to finally get ahead of the rain--7 miles from home. Raining lightly with .08 so far. I've followed the threads on my phone (my wife was reading them to me as I drove! lol). What a crazy storm. Given some of the earlier qpf posts, I guess the latest further west track won't impact the chances for some really good rains. 69.1/67--GROSS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 things still on track The fact that Ryan of all people is very optimistic should speak volumes to all you negative nancies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 looks like if finally emerging around corolla, NC Yeah, And convection firing back up on the NE and NW side of the storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 No, I would think Danvers will get higher winds unless you are up on an exposed hill or ridge line W of Nashua. Yeah, Danvers is farther east of the center but its on the coast. I still think we do just fine up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Irene is the big little engine that could...kinda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Yeah, Danvers is farther east of the center but its on the coast. I still think we do just fine up here. Yeah they end up with 950mb winds about 10-20 knots stronger than ASH...but at any time, one of the stronger rainbands could mix down some winds from further aloft around 900mb. Everyone should see pretty good wind gusts...I think a lot of people don't realize how strong gusts of 50 knots are. You don't need hurricane force gusts to cause a ton of damage with heavy rains and full foliage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonkis Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Def. seems to be drifting offshore now. Nice blowup of convection on the NE side. Looking ragged on the SE side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Somerainfall totals from MA http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/p.php?pid=201108272205-KBOX-NOUS41-PNSBOX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Yeah they end up with 950mb winds about 10-20 knots stronger than ASH...but at any time, one of the stronger rainbands could mix down some winds from further aloft around 900mb. Everyone should see pretty good wind gusts...I think a lot of people don't realize how strong gusts of 50 knots are. You don't need hurricane force gusts to cause a ton of damage with heavy rains and full foliage. Feb 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 That will be cool! Congrats on your title, by the way. It'll be fun until I have to close the window and the power goes off.....lol....We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Yeah they end up with 950mb winds about 10-20 knots stronger than ASH...but at any time, one of the stronger rainbands could mix down some winds from further aloft around 900mb. Everyone should see pretty good wind gusts...I think a lot of people don't realize how strong gusts of 50 knots are. You don't need hurricane force gusts to cause a ton of damage with heavy rains and full foliage. I can probably count the number of times I've seen legitimate 50kt gusts here on my hands...with foliage on the trees...one hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 And... 1) DAMAGING WINDS. IRENE HAS SUCH A BROAD CIRCULATION THAT DAMAGING WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE REGION. SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS...ON THE ORDER OF 45 TO 60 MPH...WILL OCCUR FOR MUCH OF THE DAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE REGION. GUSTS TO HURRICANE FORCE ARE ALSO LIKELY... ESPECIALLY ALONG THE SOUTH COAST...AND IN THE HIGHER TERRAIN .CLOSER TO THE CENTER OF IRENE. BUFKIT SOUNDINGS NO LONGER SHOW MUCH IN THE WAY OF AN INVERSION...WHICH MEANS THAT THESE STRONG DAMAGING WIND GUSTS ARE INDEED LIKELY TO REACH THE SURFACE. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SW TO WSW WINDS BEHIND IRENE WILL ALSO PROBABLY PACK A SIGNIFICANT PUNCH...WELL INTO THE EVENING HOURS. Yay. Just got back from MD. 8 hours to finally get ahead of the rain--7 miles from home. Raining lightly with .08 so far. I've followed the threads on my phone (my wife was reading them to me as I drove! lol). What a crazy storm. Given some of the earlier qpf posts, I guess the latest further west track won't impact the chances for some really good rains. 69.1/67--GROSS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 And... 1) DAMAGING WINDS. IRENE HAS SUCH A BROAD CIRCULATION THAT DAMAGING WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE REGION. SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS...ON THE ORDER OF 45 TO 60 MPH...WILL OCCUR FOR MUCH OF THE DAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE REGION. GUSTS TO HURRICANE FORCE ARE ALSO LIKELY... ESPECIALLY ALONG THE SOUTH COAST...AND IN THE HIGHER TERRAIN .CLOSER TO THE CENTER OF IRENE. BUFKIT SOUNDINGS NO LONGER SHOW MUCH IN THE WAY OF AN INVERSION...WHICH MEANS THAT THESE STRONG DAMAGING WIND GUSTS ARE INDEED LIKELY TO REACH THE SURFACE. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SW TO WSW WINDS BEHIND IRENE WILL ALSO PROBABLY PACK A SIGNIFICANT PUNCH...WELL INTO THE EVENING HOURS. Yay. Just got back from MD. 8 hours to finally get ahead of the rain--7 miles from home. Raining lightly with .08 so far. I've followed the threads on my phone (my wife was reading them to me as I drove! lol). What a crazy storm. Given some of the earlier qpf posts, I guess the latest further west track won't impact the chances for some really good rains. 69.1/67--GROSS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Interesting cutoff for closings per NECN: Sagamore, Bourne bridges T / MBTA service ...all would close IF we get 70mph winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I can probably count the number of times I've seen legitimate 50kt gusts here on my hands...with foliage on the trees...one hand. Do you guys remember that severe TSTORM line a week after 6/1? That strong gust front before the rain started? How strong were those winds? Anyone Remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I got back from the sox game a little while ago. I left right around when they started the 2nd rain delay, which was probably the worst possible time to leave because we got into that really intense rain band which instantly turned the fenway T stop into a makeshift river. Really really impressive rain rates for sure in that early band. The NHC 5pm disco mentioned that winds are having an unusually difficult time reaching the surface which will pose a big risk for the sky scrapers in NYC. I think they said floors 40-80 would be 20% higher than ground and floors >90 should expect winds >30% of the surface. Just to put some numbers to it. If NYC has sustained at 50 and gust to 75 that would be Sustained 65 G97.5 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Do you guys remember that severe TSTORM line a week after 6/1? That strong gust front before the rain started? How strong were those winds? Anyone Remember? Yeah I remember that gust front. Maybe 40 mph at best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Just got back from MD. 8 hours to finally get ahead of the rain--7 miles from home. I've followed the threads on my phone (my wife was reading them to me as I drove! lol). Welcome back, Mike ... glad you arrived alive. Oh, yeah - this bun's for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Yeah they end up with 950mb winds about 10-20 knots stronger than ASH...but at any time, one of the stronger rainbands could mix down some winds from further aloft around 900mb. Everyone should see pretty good wind gusts...I think a lot of people don't realize how strong gusts of 50 knots are. You don't need hurricane force gusts to cause a ton of damage with heavy rains and full foliage. still thinking we rip 60 to 70 ? sustained 20 or so right now at fal heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Latest VDM: 950 mb, max wind E quad 87 kt... stronger than the last reading 000URNT12 KNHC 272034VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL092011A. 27/20:03:50ZB. 36 deg 00 min N 076 deg 07 min WC. 700 mb 2630 mD. NAE. NAF. 157 deg 73 ktG. 067 deg 29 nmH. 950 mbI. 12 C / 2744 mJ. 16 C / 2744 mK. 16 C / NAL. NAM. NAN. 12345 / 7O. 0.02 / 2 nmP. AF303 3309A IRENE OB 17MAX FL WIND 87 KT E QUAD 19:36:00Z; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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