A-L-E-X Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 What kind of winds can be expected for 10+ stories up in manhattan? Is there an accurate conversion, say if surface is sustained at 50? Will be interesting to see if there is heavy window damage, another factor in that would be the amount of roof top gravel/debris on the tall buildings. Also does wind tunnel effect tend to increase winds in the city? It's another Cat so I would suspect if the wind is 50 at the surface, you'd get Cat 1 speeds up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 90 mph winds with 110 mph gusts in Cedar Island, NC! Knabb is saying the storm is going to maintain intensity because of its large circulation, with a lot of it over water and also friction with land on the left side. hm nhc says only 85mph are the sustained lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Looks like east Brooklyn/rockaways area If it's between Coney Island and JFK, that's exactly where the August 1893 hurricane made landfall as a Cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 90 mph winds with 110 mph gusts in Cedar Island, NC! Knabb is saying the storm is going to maintain intensity because of its large circulation, with a lot of it over water and also friction with land on the left side. I really think when Irene fully goes over water again in 4-6 hours, she will pulse up for a while and look a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 hm nhc says only 85mph are the sustained lol I think that was right at landfall-- wasn't it a 90 mph storm when it crossed the coast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Norfolk is at least 75 to 100 miles from the center and already reporting 65 mph gusts. I'd imagine right on the coast to their east is even higher from wxrisk: ** ALERT *** very good source says NWSFO AKQ and NHC now admits that IRENE is NOT turning to ne and will track trough NORFOLK Everyone is saying long island with wind isn't it gonna just be bad in the metro area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 GEFS. Looks intense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I really think when Irene fully goes over water again in 4-6 hours, she will pulse up for a while and look a little better. Ironically her structure continues to improve rather dramatically. I think she should stay in the 85-95 range for the next twelve hours or so at least... Big downpour in Greenpoint, Brooklyn right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSantanaNYC Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ironically her structure continues to improve rather dramatically. I think she should stay in the 85-95 range for the next twelve hours or so at least... Big downpour in Greenpoint, Brooklyn right now. Yeah..this storm is unique..it looks better now..than it did while it was on the ocean on warmer water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 NYC on East looks like the heaviest of the rains miss us.THe core of the heaviest rainfall appears to MY estimaion to be west of NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar9 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 It's another Cat so I would suspect if the wind is 50 at the surface, you'd get Cat 1 speeds up there. 1 Cat for what height, and where would maximum winds be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteoutwx1796 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ironically her structure continues to improve rather dramatically. I think she should stay in the 85-95 range for the next twelve hours or so at least... Big downpour in Greenpoint, Brooklyn right now. Coming down in the fresh meadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Looks like 947-948 mb on last recon pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 1 Cat for what height, and where would maximum winds be? According to the NOAA website you add one Cat if you're at or above the 10th story of a building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 NYC on East looks like the heaviest of the rains miss us.THe core of the heaviest rainfall appears to MY estimaion to be west of NYC. makes sense..rain in a tropical system is always heavier north and west of the eye..strongest winds and coastal flooding is right of the center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 If one looks at forecast soundings just above the surface, the potential for gusts well in excess of hurricane force exists on Long Island, not to mention sustained tropical storm force winds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Looks like 947-948 mb on last recon pass. getting stronger over land..lol..she's a wierd lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ironically her structure continues to improve rather dramatically. I think she should stay in the 85-95 range for the next twelve hours or so at least... Big downpour in Greenpoint, Brooklyn right now. This is a once in a lifetime experience Nik-- to be in the right front quadrant of a hurricane tracking just inland or on top of NYC! I think the fact that this storm is so large means much of its circulation remains over water even if the eye is just inland and also the frictional effects with the land tightening up the circulation. It should still be a minimal hurricane when it gets up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Pressure is down below 950mb on the latest pass I believe. And the radar structure has dramatically improved as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 makes sense..rain in a tropical system is always heavier north and west of the eye..strongest winds and coastal flooding is right of the center NJ/EPA and Upstate NY are going to be drenched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Pressure is down below 950mb on the latest pass I believe. And the radar structure has dramatically improved as well. all i can say is.. WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 makes sense..rain in a tropical system is always heavier north and west of the eye..strongest winds and coastal flooding is right of the center Yup, well the people who were "rooting" for high winds are going to win out over the ones who were "rooting" for high rainfall. I still want to get 8" of rain to get to 20" though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteoutwx1796 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 all i can say is.. WTF I guess the models were picking up on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F5TornadoF5 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I don't know if this is correct info...but according to wunderground, the hurricane hunters have reported 115mph at surface? http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201109_hd.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 947.1 mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deathstar9 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 According to the NOAA website you add one Cat if you're at or above the 10th story of a building. Interesting, if this is still a borderline CAT 1/strong TS, could be talking about frequent 100mph gusts above 10 stories. I really wonder how much roof top debri there is in NYC. I remember the write ups on angela in houston in the 80's, with all the window damage caused by rooftop gravel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I don't know if this is correct info...but according to wunderground, the hurricane hunters have reported 115mph at surface? http://www.wundergro...t201109_hd.html yep..looks that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 You know, the wind profile has always indicated stronger winds up at higher altitudes relative to what they should be given an 85 to 90mph storm. Since the storm is going to become more barocolinc at our latitude, boundary layer physics apply more and the strong winds could definitely mix down to the surface. Just food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Yeah last few radar frames show a very well distinct eye. IR has improved as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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