SACRUS Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Could see some late afternoon sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This storm was much windier version of Floyd except difference with Floyd was that temps dropped into the 50's when the storm pass. Although this storm was going ET transition for sure with evidence of south of the center being dry at least it stayed mainly in the 70's through the most of the event which showed it still was a warm core system with ET features building in. Despite there was report 91 mph high gust in Sayville I could tell you guys I only reported the highest of 57 mph which sustained winds near 40. This was still just like a very bad warm core hyrbid noreaster. I don't actually remember Glory because I was only 3 years old but I was in my senior year of high school with Floyd. predict it will be another 10 years until we get another tropical system to affect us. If this storm got stronger and became a cat 4 storm had limited or no land interaction we would of dealt with a totally different animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Yeah, March 2010 was worse for wind impact; power was out in by block from March 13 to March 16th (Sat-Tuesday) But, this has more rain and much more flooding... I guess by you. I have 3 trees down within 50 ft of my house. Big oak trees too. Also tons of flooding here. I barely remember 2010 after this here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This storm took the same magnitude of the March 2010 noreaster with widespread gust 50 to 60 mph. Luckly with this storm and that March 2010 storm I didn't lose power but the rains were I though more impressive with that noreaster.Widespread flooding with that event compare to this. The heaviest rains stayed to west despite I picked up 3.13" of rain here and this storm had some lightning and thunder with it as with some tornado warning which you don't see that with noreaster but I still would call this a true tropical system either. This for sure came to NYC as a tropical storm/warm core hyrbid noreaster. I still glad I never lose any power with this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I will agree that the flooding was far worse. I had a huge pool of water flowing down my yard, in 2010 I didn't see that at all. My car is in an auto body shop (being fixed) and its flooded down there; only time since Hurricane Floyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Wind is getting stronger here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgerb Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 The Raritan is making a run at Floyd's record of 42.1'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 The Raritan is making a run at Floyd's record of 42.1'. When is this supposed to crest? I have a friend in manville that pretty much just lost everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Floyd rains were bad I remember and widespread flooding with that. I remember in Weschester I think had a "Severe Flooding Warning" due all that rain fell which up probably 10" of rain there. The difference again with Irene and Floyd that Irene had no cold air behind unlike Floyd which showed that it was still a warm core system but the ET transition has been evident though. Floyd when it came up here was practically almost completely ET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This storm was worse than any wind storm I've seen while living here (since 2003). The trees were bending sideways and the rain was just obscene. Transformers were lighting up the sky all kinds of colors for hours. Power was out and it was legit scary. Gladly everyone if safe. Some in my town aren't as lucky with trees down on their homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=OKX Upton PNS issued at 153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This storm was worse than any wind storm I've seen while living here (since 2003). The trees were bending sideways and the rain was just obscene. Transformers were lighting up the sky all kinds of colors for hours. Power was out and it was legit scary. Gladly everyone if safe. Some in my town aren't as lucky with trees down on their homes. Worse wind I have seen in edison......just a amazing show last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Lots of trees on houses in western Suffolk. Pictures soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This storm was not a big deal in Dobbs Ferry....HPN only gusted to 44mph, we never lost power, and the damage is limited to a few branches down here and there. Given the reports on TV, I was expecting a war zone. Generally an overhyped event as the storm was clearly weakening but no one wanted to say it after all the preparations/evacuations. Sure some areas had bad flooding but the Hurricane Warning didn't even come close to verifying. Total joke that NWS would put up a hurricane warning for inland areas with a tropical storm scraping the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 The wind is much stronger this afternoon than it was last night or this morning. In fact, I think I just saw my strongest winds for the whole event. It is really getting bad now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Really nice mixing to the surface going on now on the backside of Irene, with the extra-tropical transition and isallobaric component as well. Very typical situation where many inland areas will have their strongest wind gusts in a tropical system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT5ANDREW Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Irene is the equal to Belle in 1976 for me.The torrential rains combined with the 65+MPH winds and a tornado that literally went right over my truck on Union Tpke and Francis Lewis Blvd,with trees uprooted on Franny Lew near 73rd Ave .HOward Beach had the worst costal flooding since the DEC 1992 Noreaster with Charles Park and the surrunding streets underwater with cars completly submerged in some cases.Crossbay Blvd had 2 feet of water on it by the Staples and the 7-11.Good Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 By the way, this storm was a beast for my area from like 9PM-7AM last night. Easily had winds gust between 60-70 frequently. Widespread tree damage in the county, but especially in my immediate neighborhood which I found odd. I'm still without power since around midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This storm was not a big deal in Dobbs Ferry....HPN only gusted to 44mph, we never lost power, and the damage is limited to a few branches down here and there. Given the reports on TV, I was expecting a war zone. Generally an overhyped event as the storm was clearly weakening but no one wanted to say it after all the preparations/evacuations. Sure some areas had bad flooding but the Hurricane Warning didn't even come close to verifying. Total joke that NWS would put up a hurricane warning for inland areas with a tropical storm scraping the area. I think it's because we're not used to seeing tropical systems up here. Any time we get one, it will be overhyped because it's so rare. No question this was not a big deal compared to what a real hurricane would do. 60mph gusts ... trees down ... flooding.............. certainly a very bad storm. Probably the worst that most people in the tri-state have seen. But it's absolutely nothing compared to what a REAL hurricane would do. With the way we're raving about how exciting the conditions were last night (basically tropical storm/noreaster conditions - certainly not a hurricane), just shows how we're not used to real tropical conditions. This would be considered nothing down south, but up here it's a big deal. Anyway I did enjoy the storm. Highest gusts were around 60. The worst flooding I've seen since Floyd. My road was flooded, and the water almost made it up to my house (came up like 3 feet short). Lots of branches, and one huge limb down in my yard. Some people in my neighborhood have trees down. Never lost power here. An exciting storm for sure. However, some day I would like to experience what a REAL hurricane feels like. This was nowhere near a hurricane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderdude Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 The storm was the worse from 11 pm - 6 am with wind gust 50-60 mph and the strong winds occur in the heavy convective rain bands. Despite the report of 91 mph I will confirm the highest was 57-60 mph. Few trees have fell. The winds are still gusty 35-40 mph witht some light rain showers but this was still an event despite no power was lost and the heaviest rains stayed to my west. Now Irene I think is practically now almost completely extra-tropical while it moving into C to NNE now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 The storm was the worse from 11 pm - 6 am with wind gust 50-60 mph and the strong winds occur in the heavy convective rain bands. Despite the report of 91 mph I will confirm the highest was 57-60 mph. Few trees have fell. The winds are still gusty 35-40 mph but some light rain showers but this was still an event despite no power was lost and the heaviest rains stayed to my west. Now Irene I think is practically now almost completely extra-tropical while it moving into C to NNE now. Is 91 a weenie report? Badly calibrated Davis ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I think it's because we're not used to seeing tropical systems up here. Any time we get one, it will be overhyped because it's so rare. No question this was not a big deal compared to what a real hurricane would do. 60mph gusts ... trees down ... flooding.............. certainly a very bad storm. Probably the worst that most people in the tri-state have seen. But it's absolutely nothing compared to what a REAL hurricane would do. With the way we're raving about how exciting the conditions were last night (basically tropical storm/noreaster conditions - certainly not a hurricane), just shows how we're not used to real tropical conditions. This would be considered nothing down south, but up here it's a big deal. Anyway I did enjoy the storm. Highest gusts were around 60. The worst flooding I've seen since Floyd. My road was flooded, and the water almost made it up to my house (came up like 3 feet short). Lots of branches, and one huge limb down in my yard. Some people in my neighborhood have trees down. Never lost power here. An exciting storm for sure. However, some day I would like to experience what a REAL hurricane feels like. This was nowhere near a hurricane. Yes, I agree. Relative to the standards of our climate, this was a powerful storm. The problem in my mind was that people acted as though a hurricane were coming: mass evacuations, taping windows, even a Hurricane Warning from the NWS. We should have been more realistic about the fact that we were basically facing a strong Nor'easter. I took a drive during the middle of the storm, and roads were completely passable, there were a few branches down here and there, but that's it. Of course the media loves to hype, and Mayor Bloomberg needed to make up for the City's terrible performance in 12/26 by showing that it could handle a big storm. Many of the evacuations and preparations were essentially grandstanding from an administration that couldn't afford another weather fiasco. Some of the storm surge was bad and needed to be addressed, but I'm sure part of the preparation was political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Yes, I agree. Relative to the standards of our climate, this was a powerful storm. The problem in my mind was that people acted as though a hurricane were coming: mass evacuations, taping windows, even a Hurricane Warning from the NWS. We should have been more realistic about the fact that we were basically facing a strong Nor'easter. I took a drive during the middle of the storm, and roads were completely passable, there were a few branches down here and there, but that's it. Of course the media loves to hype, and Mayor Bloomberg needed to make up for the City's terrible performance in 12/26 by showing that it could handle a big storm. Many of the evacuations and preparations were essentially grandstanding from an administration that couldn't afford another weather fiasco. Some of the storm surge was bad and needed to be addressed, but I'm sure part of the preparation was political. i dont think you can generalize about this storm. Roads were NOT passable in much of the area. 423,000 people are still without power on Long Island alone. Id guess about a million people in the tri-state have no power now. Trees are down all over the place. Maybe in your area the winds werent strong, doesnt mean it underperformed. I was not expecting 90 mph gusts, but from the record report, its clear most of us in the city, the island, and central jersey south saw gusts over 60... Sometimes being inland sucks...like the past 10 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I don't see any trees down, however I haven't went outside yet. I see branches and leaves down though. The same thing happened on 3/13/10, I only saw 1 downed tree until I actually left the house, I saw 50+ after that. The winds seemed slightly more intense with Irene. I was on the right side of Dennis as it was a Cat 3 and I'd say Irene was a bit more intense than that. This is the first and only TC I've really experienced in the tri-state. I have no memory of Floyd or Isabelle, they were a little before my time. We were so close to an official hurricane landfall, that's my only gripe, but I'm glad we had a landfall in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 http://www.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/article/hurricane-irene-regional-impacts-north-east_2011-08-25 Good article...4.5 million without power... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 i dont think you can generalize about this storm. Roads were NOT passable in much of the area. 423,000 people are still without power on Long Island alone. Id guess about a million people in the tri-state have no power now. Trees are down all over the place. Maybe in your area the winds werent strong, doesnt mean it underperformed. I was not expecting 90 mph gusts, but from the record report, its clear most of us in the city, the island, and central jersey south saw gusts over 60... Sometimes being inland sucks...like the past 10 years... To verify a hurricane you need sustained winds of 74mph+, no one came close. The Hurricane Warning did NOT verify. NWS had 75-80mph gusts here, and the highest we got at HPN was 44mph. They had 80mph gusts for LI, and most people only got to around 60mph. Also, the forecast of a widespread 10" of rain was an absolute fail...many parts of Westchester, for example, only saw 4-5" rainfall. The forecasts for winds and rain were universally too high, that's my point. I'm not trying to trivialize the damage some saw, or say that the storm didn't have a serious impact on the area. But hurricane warnings? Mass evacuations? Please! This was not nearly as bad as either 12/26/2010 or March 2010 in terms of impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 To verify a hurricane you need sustained winds of 74mph+, no one came close. The Hurricane Warning did NOT verify. NWS had 75-80mph gusts here, and the highest we got at HPN was 44mph. They had 80mph gusts for LI, and most people only got to around 60mph. Also, the forecast of a widespread 10" of rain was an absolute fail...many parts of Westchester, for example, only saw 4-5" rainfall. The forecasts for winds and rain were universally too high, that's my point. I'm not trying to trivialize the damage some saw, or say that the storm didn't have a serious impact on the area. But hurricane warnings? Mass evacuations? Please! This was not nearly as bad as either 12/26/2010 or March 2010 in terms of impact. I agree hurricane warning was overblown, but, look at these pictures from east haven, CT. http://www.weather.c...icut_2011-08-28 houses swept away...people needed to get out. People arent afraid of a tropical storm, they are afraid of hurricanes...that being said, who wants to see sustained winds of 74+??? Im happy with what i got to be honest with you. i dont wish death or damage to anyone. blizzards are much cooler IMO, you can get just as strong winds and huge drifts, and you dont have as many people dying/drowning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Wow! Plattsburgh gusting to 58!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Just got power back after 14 hours in Brooklyn What part? I lost power for 2 minutes last night but not for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Is this storm classified as a Hurricane or a Tropical Storm for the area? I would think a T.S, since it made landfall as a T.S and winds never went above 74 mph for a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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