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Official Hurricane Irene Live OBS/Discussion Part III


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One thing now being missed a bit with all the winds and rain being observed is it appears the center is definitely going to track along the western edge of the guidance envelope. That could be a result of it undergoing an extratropical transformation a bit earlier, a true hurricane would have a tendency to go more right which is why I had pounded that idea for so many days, like NHC I thought this wouldn't transform til over NE, even with it weakening I thought it would maintain more of a warm core nature.

What about the 1903 hurricane that smacked ACY, SG? It bent back NW in a sharp left turn.

BTW I now have sustained TS winds now-- 40 mph

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What about the 1903 hurricane that smacked ACY, SG? It bent back NW in a sharp left turn.

BTW I now have sustained TS winds now-- 40 mph

I saw a graphic online this week that showed a different viewed track of that system, more classic of what many east coast hurricanes which came up this way did. Its hard to say in 1903 how accurate they could pin down what the track was.

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Have returned from my dryslot drive and wow, the flash flooding is amazing, to the likes of which I've never seen before in my area- Freehold NJ. I could only drive a 2 mi stretch of of US9 as police have it closed off due to flooding and downed trees etc. There are houses taking in water on south street and it looks as if most of Howell twp had no power. Just crazy outthere, trees and limbs down all over the place. Nuts

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Just as I was beginning to wonder if Irene existed, a band came through here with rainfall rates near 3"/hr and a wind gust of 26 from the east. I'm in Oakland, NJ - about 25 miles NNW of the city.

Still looking for the obs to our south to improve, but it's cool to see these bands packing a punch.

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Oh so this isn't a true hurricane? Funny, it's catagorized as a hurricane. And judging from what we are seeing out of S. Jersey, it's almost like a real hurricane. But hey, I'll tell my friends there not to worry since this isn't a true hurricane.

I like the tropiclique, but I remember them coming down on OEM, who is, granted, a dick, about his talk about Hazel and Washington, DC. Sure, Irene will be hybrid when it hits New York, but if you get or almost get hurricane winds in gusts, storm surge, and flooding rains, who da funk cares if it is still purely warm core. I'll bet 1938 wasn't purely tropical.

Sensible weather, if the ground truth is a strong TS or a hurricane, then its a strong TS or hurricane, even if ET transition is well underway.

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I know you guys have your hands full, but I thought you might like to see this.

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URNT12 KNHC 280531

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL092011

A. 28/05:12:20Z

B. 37 deg 58 min N

075 deg 03 min W

C. 700 mb 2708 m

D. 49 kt

E. 040 deg 15 nm

F. 138 deg 53 kt

G. 040 deg 31 nm

H. EXTRAP 957 mb

I. 10 C / 3049 m

J. 13 C / 3038 m

K. 13 C / NA

L. NA

M. NA

N. 1345 / 7

O. 0.02 / 1 nm

P. AF304 3409A IRENE OB 31

MAX FL WIND 94 KT E QUAD 03:57:40Z

MAX OUTBOUND FL WIND 56 KT S QUAD 05:24:30Z

SLP EXTRAP FROM 700 MB

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Outside truly sounds like the screaming in the beginning of "Welcome to the Jungle" (Guns N Roses).

I'm now convinced that weatherbug station must be experiencing some issues, there's no way we only gusted to 41. Probably blew off since it got mighty windy after that 41 mph gust was recorded lol.

SE Queens, heading into that dry slot.

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WOW!! I am in Ossining, NY, I just went outside on my covered porch, it was a fairly light wind, torrential rains and then all of a sudden a gust came up must have been 35-40 miles per hour. Looked like it was going to pick up my 1 year old cherry tree. Wind howling in the 100 foot trees around my house. That was scary!!! I have put a flashlight in my pocket. Lights flickering. Hopefully lights and power do not go out. If this is my last post. Stay safe everyone!! WE have a long way to go!!

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Outside truly sounds like the screaming in the beginning of "Welcome to the Jungle" (Guns N Roses).

I'm now convinced that weatherbug station must be experiencing some issues, there's no way we only gusted to 41. Probably blew off since it got mighty windy after that 41 mph gust was recorded lol.

SE Queens, heading into that dry slot.

Where's the station mounted? Most of those stations aren't mounted high enough clear of surrounding structures or trees to get good wind readings. So you'll get gusts that you think should be higher, but they will register lower.

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A line of storms firing east of NJ. Models have some intense banding developing north of the center over the next few hours, will see if that happens...if it does, historic flooding becomes more likely for NYC and points into the lower Hudson Valley.

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